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tjlazer 12-01-2012 12:11 PM

^ yes! What a pita! I was like ahhhhh.

HArturo319 12-11-2012 02:14 PM

Quick question... I haven't looked at the vehicle users manual, but I assume that the 2012 and 2013 model wiring configuration hasn't changed therefore tapping the Metra Axxess harness as you have all stated should work just fine?

ga0887 01-08-2013 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chops (Post 835846)
question to those who got this working. with my pioneer x920bt i cannot get the up and down buttons to program preset up/down. when i use these buttons all i get is tuner up/down and seek up/down if i hold the buttons. is this a limitation of the axxess?

I am having this same issue, any one resolve this?

I've considered manually reprogramming the axxess and skipping the "seek" functions and programming these as "track up/down" (If you've manually programmed one of these units I'm hoping you know what I am referring to).

Just wanted to hear other member's experience before I take apart the dash (again)..

P-Kidd 01-30-2013 02:42 PM

Anyone have any luck getting it to work with a 2013 Base. Frustrated.... I used the blue and pink wire. Separate ground for pin 15.

redline10000 04-15-2013 01:08 PM

Just did this today and it worked first time with the auto program. All I did was update the unit via my PC before installing.

bigaudiofanat 04-16-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redline10000 (Post 2267929)
Just did this today and it worked first time with the auto program. All I did was update the unit via my PC before installing.

Must be slowly getting rid of the older models, the newer ones should be shipping with the update already. Just will have to do a manual update before install.

cossie1600 04-16-2013 12:56 PM

I didnt even do the update. It worked after I reset it properly

tjlazer 04-17-2013 10:26 PM

Redline: how did you update it on the PC?

bigaudiofanat 04-18-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 2272478)
Redline: how did you update it on the PC?

You have to have the update cable you can buy them from metra or on ebay.

MX52Z 06-18-2013 05:18 PM

Re:'09 Bose, non-nav, axxess ASWC, Kenwood DNX9990HD

I've been at this for three days, reading everything I can here and on the Axxess site. The specific guide for the 370Z says when programmed, there should be a solid green light. When reading two other generic product manuals, however, they say it should be solid red. I've never seen the solid green but I have the solid red which I took to mean a fault.

I've gone through everything multiple times: #15 from the car radio harness is grounded to chassis and the grey/blue (to #16/blue wire) and grey/red wires (to #6 pink wire) were properly connected, even soldered.

Axxess diagnostics flashed five short greens and a long sixth then short seventh which means it detected only one of the two swc wires (grey/blue but not grey/red too).

I was only getting volume control and nothing else.

About ready to throw in the towel, I decided to swap the grey/blue and grey/red wires and reprogram. All of a sudden, all of the buttons are responding in some way. The volume up and down work, the source button goes through all of the Kenwood's various sources fine but the preset up and down is now seek and the phone answer and hang-up is also seek.

While this is not ideal, I'm finally seeing signs of life from all the steering wheel buttons by purposefully connecting the Axxess incorrectly. Yes, I double checked the Axxess plug's pinout too and the grey/blue and grey/red are where they're supposed to be.

I feel like I'm either getting close to success or close to screwing things up. I'm frustrated, sore and tired of seeing my Z's interior stripped out plus I need it back on the road asap. I would like to know if I can access the swc pink/blue/black wires at the steering column instead of behind the radio because I'd like to actually finish the Kenwood install and worry about the Axxess later.

bigaudiofanat 06-18-2013 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MX52Z (Post 2368983)
Re:'09 Bose, non-nav, axxess ASWC, Kenwood DNX9990HD

I've been at this for three days, reading everything I can here and on the Axxess site. The specific guide for the 370Z says when programmed, there should be a solid green light. When reading two other generic product manuals, however, they say it should be solid red. I've never seen the solid green but I have the solid red which I took to mean a fault.

I've gone through everything multiple times: #15 from the car radio harness is grounded to chassis and the grey/blue (to #16/blue wire) and grey/red wires (to #6 pink wire) were properly connected, even soldered.

Axxess diagnostics flashed five short greens and a long sixth then short seventh which means it detected only one of the two swc wires (grey/blue but not grey/red too).

I was only getting volume control and nothing else.

About ready to throw in the towel, I decided to swap the grey/blue and grey/red wires and reprogram. All of a sudden, all of the buttons are responding in some way. The volume up and down work, the source button goes through all of the Kenwood's various sources fine but the preset up and down is now seek and the phone answer and hang-up is also seek.

While this is not ideal, I'm finally seeing signs of life from all the steering wheel buttons by purposefully connecting the Axxess incorrectly. Yes, I double checked the Axxess plug's pinout too and the grey/blue and grey/red are where they're supposed to be.

I feel like I'm either getting close to success or close to screwing things up. I'm frustrated, sore and tired of seeing my Z's interior stripped out plus I need it back on the road asap. I would like to know if I can access the swc pink/blue/black wires at the steering column instead of behind the radio because I'd like to actually finish the Kenwood install and worry about the Axxess later.

I'm sorry to hear this but why would you not just do manual program and be done with it? You saying you only got volume to work means that you did a auto program. The green light is only on the newer models which even that i got to work just fine.

MX52Z 06-18-2013 07:38 PM

Because I'm still stuck on the grey/blue and grey/red wires being connected properly. No matter what I do, the Axxess only sees one of them: #16 blue to grey/blue wire but not the pink wire. When I hook it up incorrectly, then the Axxess sees the #6 pink to grey/red wire but not the blue wire.

It's frustrating because the Axxess sees one but not both. Following the directions precisely, I only get volume control but defying the instructions, all the buttons on the steering wheel respond (somewhat).

So, I'm wondering if the Axxess even needs the second connection at all because if all the steering wheel buttons are responding (somewhat) to my purposefully reversed wiring, then I'm questioning if I'm then able to manually program the buttons to function correctly.

In short: Follow Axxess instructions, get only volume. Defy Axxess instructions and get all buttons to respond (but still need manual programming).

I haven't yet tried manual programming because I don't know how. The instructions are like 13 pages of "hold the vol up button until something blinks" then count some other blinks and then down vol until something else blinks so you can skip to the next button to program, etc. I know you could do it blindfolded but it's still daunting for me.

tWeEzY 06-18-2013 09:32 PM

I know the feeling trust me. If the vol buttons are working then you are off to a good start. Manually program and you should be good. Im not sure though since you have bluetooth if you need to do anything else additionally

logenl7 06-19-2013 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MX52Z (Post 2369126)
Because I'm still stuck on the grey/blue and grey/red wires being connected properly. No matter what I do, the Axxess only sees one of them: #16 blue to grey/blue wire but not the pink wire. When I hook it up incorrectly, then the Axxess sees the #6 pink to grey/red wire but not the blue wire.

It's frustrating because the Axxess sees one but not both. Following the directions precisely, I only get volume control but defying the instructions, all the buttons on the steering wheel respond (somewhat).

So, I'm wondering if the Axxess even needs the second connection at all because if all the steering wheel buttons are responding (somewhat) to my purposefully reversed wiring, then I'm questioning if I'm then able to manually program the buttons to function correctly.

In short: Follow Axxess instructions, get only volume. Defy Axxess instructions and get all buttons to respond (but still need manual programming).

I haven't yet tried manual programming because I don't know how. The instructions are like 13 pages of "hold the vol up button until something blinks" then count some other blinks and then down vol until something else blinks so you can skip to the next button to program, etc. I know you could do it blindfolded but it's still daunting for me.


I've got the same exact problems on the same exact car :shakes head: The manual programming is still confusing for me. All I can get to work correctly are the volume buttons and "bluetooth end call" will mute my radio lol.. Thats all I've got.. I'm thinking about biting the bullet and having a shop reprogram.. Although I dont like anyone touching my stuff :eek:

tjlazer 06-23-2013 10:02 PM

I had to do manual programming too. Just followed the instructions. Wasn't that hard.

11Thumper 06-27-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by logenl7 (Post 2369605)
I've got the same exact problems on the same exact car :shakes head: The manual programming is still confusing for me. All I can get to work correctly are the volume buttons and "bluetooth end call" will mute my radio lol.. Thats all I've got.. I'm thinking about biting the bullet and having a shop reprogram.. Although I dont like anyone touching my stuff :eek:

Same here, only the volume works. I connected everything per the instructions and also tried the manual programming. No difference...

I could spend more time on it but I'm frustrated enough already. :icon14:

bigaudiofanat 06-28-2013 08:57 AM

I saw first hand what people could be getting wrong if they are using this with a JVC head unit yesterday. The aswc sees the JVC as a kenwood and you need to tell it you have a JVC or use a resistor in the program process and remove afterwards.

As for the manual programming you have to make sure you program the buttons in order otherwise half will do weird things unless you are trying to get them to do other functions.

bigaudiofanat 06-28-2013 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MX52Z (Post 2369126)
Because I'm still stuck on the grey/blue and grey/red wires being connected properly. No matter what I do, the Axxess only sees one of them: #16 blue to grey/blue wire but not the pink wire. When I hook it up incorrectly, then the Axxess sees the #6 pink to grey/red wire but not the blue wire.

It's frustrating because the Axxess sees one but not both. Following the directions precisely, I only get volume control but defying the instructions, all the buttons on the steering wheel respond (somewhat).

So, I'm wondering if the Axxess even needs the second connection at all because if all the steering wheel buttons are responding (somewhat) to my purposefully reversed wiring, then I'm questioning if I'm then able to manually program the buttons to function correctly.

In short: Follow Axxess instructions, get only volume. Defy Axxess instructions and get all buttons to respond (but still need manual programming).

I haven't yet tried manual programming because I don't know how. The instructions are like 13 pages of "hold the vol up button until something blinks" then count some other blinks and then down vol until something else blinks so you can skip to the next button to program, etc. I know you could do it blindfolded but it's still daunting for me.

Once again I say this, if your only getting volume hyou are NTO doing a manual program you are doing a auto program. You need to reset the unit wait for the light to go into a slow flash and in this order:

Hold volume up wait for red light to go solid red let go

Hold Volume down wait for red light to go solid let go

Hold seek up down wait for red light to go solid let go

Hold Seek down wait for red light to go solid let go

Hold Source down wait for red light to go solid let go

Hold volume up for at least 10 seconds the red light will go into a slow blink let go

Hold volume down for 5 seconds the red light will start flashing rapidly let go

Hold volume down until light turns solid red.

Your done.

Cbtech 06-28-2013 01:06 PM

Does anyone happen to have the 3.5MM female jack for the Axess? I cannot seem to find mine and i went to a Kenwood which requires it :(

bigaudiofanat 06-28-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2384012)
Does anyone happen to have the 3.5MM female jack for the Axess? I cannot seem to find mine and i went to a Kenwood which requires it :(

You might be able to get one through ebay or contacting metra. I know they stand by their products.

Cbtech 06-28-2013 01:55 PM

I would have no idea what its called though.

bigaudiofanat 06-28-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2384092)
I would have no idea what its called though.

Hard wire adapter? I would call metra.

Gadgetech 12-07-2013 04:43 PM

I installed a Kenwood DDX790 in my Z today, replacing the non-Bose unit. I was having difficulty getting the ASWC-1 controls to work and called into Crutchfield tech support. We did the auto programming which only programmed the volume button. I explained that I really needed to manually program everything but the Axxess wasn't responding to the inputs for manual programming.

I placed a call to Axxess to talk with their tech support at the request of Crutchfield. He and I went over the wiring and we had everything hooked up according to the instructions provided but he said many Nissans have the wiring backwards so he suggested switching the blue/gray wire with the red/gray wire. We'd already soldered everything in so we just cut the blue/gray and red/gray wires, stripped the wires, butt soldered them together and put some heat shrink over them. It would have been too difficult to go back into the harness and re-do what we'd already done. Little chintzy but what the heck. Anyway, after switching the wires I went through the auto programming method again and all the buttons work!

Kenchan - I was able to get the auto programming to work on all my buttons with the ASWC!

Maybe it's b/c I had the non-bose and this isn't an issue but in all my searching I didn't read anywhere that folks were having success with the ASWC and auto-programming.

tWeEzY 12-07-2013 05:34 PM

Interesting. So ur telling me my past frustration, and high blood pressure was probably caused by but reversing two wires. Smh! Honestly I'm just glad mine works cuz I was real close to giving up and running that black box over lol

- Sent from eO's brain

Gadgetech 12-07-2013 05:40 PM

I couldn't believe it. I kept telling them the auto program wouldn't work...I had to eat crow but I did so happily.


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tWeEzY 12-07-2013 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadgetech (Post 2599322)
I couldn't believe it. I kept telling them the auto program wouldn't work...I had to eat crow but I did so happily.


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out of curiosity where did you mount the box and also did you put the dash pieces together and have to take it back apart to get to the box? I'd thought about calling the axxess # & Crutchfield when i was having difficulty but i assumed they wouldn't assist w/o proof i bought it directly from them instead of through a 3rd party such as Amazon.

tWeEzY 12-07-2013 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2384012)
Does anyone happen to have the 3.5MM female jack for the Axess? I cannot seem to find mine and i went to a Kenwood which requires it :(

So glad i didnt misplace mine because after I switched to Kenwood, it came in very handy.

Cbtech 12-07-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tWeEzY (Post 2599326)
So glad i didnt misplace mine because after I switched to Kenwood, it came in very handy.

I called axxess and they told me what colors to splice so it wasn't so bad.

sent via my hand puter-ma-jig

Fountainhead 12-07-2013 08:33 PM

if all else fails make sure the buttons are actually producing a voltage change when pressed, (when connected to the SWC -Steering Wheel Controller) if no change in voltage there is nothing to learn!
Always make sure there is voltage applied to the SWC and that the wires have voltage change when the buttons are pressed!
Not all SWC controllers can use ALL the buttons, YMMV.

Gadgetech 12-07-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tWeEzY (Post 2599325)
out of curiosity where did you mount the box and also did you put the dash pieces together and have to take it back apart to get to the box? I'd thought about calling the axxess # & Crutchfield when i was having difficulty but i assumed they wouldn't assist w/o proof i bought it directly from them instead of through a 3rd party such as Amazon.

The box is sitting behind the cubby where the screen would be in the Bose unit cars. I wrapped it in bubble wrap so it wouldn't vibrate around. I tested the unit before putting everything back together.

tWeEzY 12-07-2013 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadgetech (Post 2599525)
The box is sitting behind the cubby where the screen would be in the Bose unit cars. I wrapped it in bubble wrap so it wouldn't vibrate around. I tested the unit before putting everything back together.

I ended up seating mine at the shift boot so if it started acting funny I wouldn't have to rip my whole dash apart

- Sent from eO's brain

The Z 12-16-2013 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chops (Post 835846)
question to those who got this working. with my pioneer x920bt i cannot get the up and down buttons to program preset up/down. when i use these buttons all i get is tuner up/down and seek up/down if i hold the buttons. is this a limitation of the axxess?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ga0887 (Post 2100980)
I am having this same issue, any one resolve this?

I've considered manually reprogramming the axxess and skipping the "seek" functions and programming these as "track up/down" (If you've manually programmed one of these units I'm hoping you know what I am referring to).

Just wanted to hear other member's experience before I take apart the dash (again)..


I installed this over the weekend and I had the same issue. You have to remapp the Assexx, if you go to the back of the booklet it tells you how to remap, you basically have to skip the seek and mute by pressing the volume button up for a second and then it goes to the next function. And no you do not have to take apart the dash for this (although it does help to see the light flashes)

I finally got everything to work the way I wanted just took some tinkering around. Great and easy product to use. Didnt have any need to swap any wires or anything. Grey/red went to Pink and grey/blue went to its corresponding wire.

eastwest2300 03-24-2014 07:05 PM

I'll be doing this install this week on a base 2010 and pioneer avic unit.

ufoz8mycow 04-14-2014 03:16 PM

Does anybody have the links to the PDFs in the original post? They aren't working anymore..

vinaaga 04-28-2014 01:43 PM

I think this is the equivalent for Nissan 370z '14 coupe
http://contentdocs.installernet.com/...icle/12145.pdf

ajrdu 09-07-2014 10:39 AM

I just installed this unit with a Parrot Asteroid Smart. I couldn't get it to do anything but volume. I then switched the wires like posted above and everything worked great. All buttons, all functions. Thanks for all the great posts! They saved me lots of trouble.

daveb91 09-11-2014 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 2383540)
Once again I say this, if your only getting volume hyou are NTO doing a manual program you are doing a auto program. You need to reset the unit wait for the light to go into a slow flash and in this order:

Hold volume up wait for red light to go solid red let go

Hold Volume down wait for red light to go solid let go

Hold seek up down wait for red light to go solid let go

Hold Seek down wait for red light to go solid let go

Hold Source down wait for red light to go solid let go

Hold volume up for at least 10 seconds the red light will go into a slow blink let go

Hold volume down for 5 seconds the red light will start flashing rapidly let go

Hold volume down until light turns solid red.

Your done.


I just installed mine and looking at the instructions and this it wouldn't work until I deleted the last step of holding vol down......also mine blinks red and goes solid green....not solid red not that it makes any difference.

JMow 10-25-2014 09:24 AM

PAC SWI RC and the AXXESS ASWC-1 on a 2014 370Z base (non-Bose, non-nav.) with a Kenwood KDC-BT958HD.

VOLUME WORKS BUT NOTHING ELSE- Try swapping the two steering wheel signal wires.
AXXESS- has two sets of instructions for the Z, with one having only the two steering wheel signal wires opposite of the other, I decided I’d try it both ways. But don’t be fooled if only volume works! That doesn’t mean you have the wires right. Once I swapped the wires, everything auto-programmed flawlessly- done!

PAC - I did get the volume working, but did not try swapping steering wheel signal wires. Based on my experience with the AXXESS, you could give it a try on the PAC.
Obviously this assumes the other wiring is right- power and ground to the unit, and pin 15 on the Z needs to be grounded.


WHY I LIKE AXXESS ASWC-1 BETTER THAN PAC SWI RC

Axxess worked. I gave up on the PAC after a good try and since I found the PAC SWI RC is not compatible some Kenwoods with similar model #s as mine (See PAC website). Perhaps I just needed to swap signal wires, but there were other compelling reasons to go with Axxess as well.

Axxess has simpler wiring- The PAC-SWI RC features a bag of resistors and capacitors to solder in-line. Who wants to deal with that?? Admittedly Axxess comes with 1 resistor needed for programming certain Kenwood models (I didn’t need it with my Kenwood)

Axxess has non-volatile memory- meaning that in a few years when you change your car battery you will not have to also dig behind you dashboard to find the unit and program it.

Axxess has an auto-programming feature- this worked great once I had the wiring correct. Saves time. The programming with the PAC actually takes a little practice to get the sequences and timing correct for pushing all the buttons.

COMPARING SPEED- tie. I’ve seen posts on one vs. the other in speed. I had volume working on the PAC. I didn’t time it, but both seemed to increase or decrease volume at the same rate. Non-noticable / negligible difference.

Corona 02-26-2015 11:04 PM

what 12volt source are you all using for the aswc?

14z 03-21-2015 08:46 PM

I just installed one of these on a 2014 base. I couldn't get it to auto detect but could program it as per the thread. Only difference was the LED was green instead of red during process. Thanks for all the information!


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