Base vs. Bose speaker/sound

The Weapon · 09-18-2009, 04:46 PM

I just upgraded my Bose w/ Nav this weekend with a pair of Focal 165VS and 1 Old 12inch Kove Armegeddon M Series DVC

I used the MTX Re-Q to and wired it to the harness that went into the factory Bose Amp to 2 Punch Amps. 1 600a4 and 250.1.

Coming from aftermarket stereo in my 350Z i was kind of worried of the SQ but it sounds pretty good to me. It's loud, it's clear, there's no issues with sound fading at high volumes. You turn it up and it gets louder without distortion.

The only problem i had was the remote wire wasn't strong enough to power on both amps and i had to run the remote for the sub to the lighter which really doesn't matter because as soon as you turn the car it powers up the amps anyways without the stereo being on so you can have sound for the navigation/voice commands.

If looking stock is important then get the Bose. If not then start from scratch.

SlikNik · 09-18-2009, 07:13 PM

I really wish Nissan would have teamed up with a quality aftermarket stereo company and put some real options into the audio setup. How nice would it be to have a system that really hits and not have to pull one door panel or trim pieces off. Hell I would pay extra if it was a quality system.

The Bose name for whatever reason some people equate to good audio.

Look at the picture above of the amp that is the size of a cigarette pack. OMG that is funny.

The base system is absolute junk, speakers can't handle any volume but hey I knew it wasn't any good when I bought the car. Definitely going to put a few grand into the audio which will make the car perfect.

bigaudiofanat · 09-18-2009, 07:21 PM

They or no one rely does that. I mean even Mitsubishi and RF there systems are good but could be better. Most car companies are not interested in car audio they are more worried about weight and power. Even in there brochure they said "we have even shaved weight from places you would not think of like 5 pounds was shaved from the audio system" I mean that is directly form there words. Like I said the only real way to get a system is put on in yourself.

Daishi · 09-24-2009, 02:30 AM

Vw has dynaudio sound upgrades.. Why couldn't Nissan use them. Would of been great.

bigaudiofanat · 09-24-2009, 07:45 AM

Never heard of that and if they do they do not use much of it.

kenchan · 09-24-2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Most car companies are not interested in car audio they are more worried about weight and power.

actually they are worried about cost. if you want good audio they know people will go aftermarket...like we do.

they will give you the bose quality audio as part of their
marketing scheme as a good system and for 99% of the
normal folks out there the bose will do it for them.

bigaudiofanat · 09-24-2009, 03:59 PM

But in the z's case they are worried about weight like I said they said it right in there paper.

cab83_750 · 09-24-2009, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daishi

Vw has dynaudio sound upgrades.. Why couldn't Nissan use them. Would of been great.

I just upgraded my base speakers with Dynaudio (with Precision Power 1000.4 amp) this last wekend and I am ecstatic!

papashango · 12-09-2010, 06:37 AM

How is the bass in the bose model? is it decent or horrible?

PontualZ · 12-09-2010, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papashango

How is the bass in the bose model? is it decent or horrible?

I have the bose and the bass is decent. I'm not an audiophile like many of the guys responding to this thread, but I have no problem with the bose set up.

SVTNate · 12-10-2010, 01:31 AM

I've had aftermarket stereos in my last 3 cars, my last being a BMW with Alpine amps and CDT HD series components/subwoofer. Honestly, the Bose is okay. Reading all this stuff about the Bose makes me wonder whether it's worth the expense and headache to replace it all. I don't listen to my music loud anymore. I'd like better iPod integration, more bass, and higher quality sound, but the Bose is at least good enough that I haven't made that decision yet. Of course the car is only 2 weeks old, lol!

sonic370 · 12-10-2010, 07:56 PM

one thing for sure the base system does blow. talk radio even sounds bad on it. i changed mine out in stages. speakers first jbl's in did improve sq.
then the HU JVC DD w/bluetooth it works great with my iphone/ipod
i can control it from the unit. it also has a front usb port.

next will be a sub just don't know what. leaning towards a powered one..

bigaudiofanat · 12-10-2010, 09:09 PM

The bose would probably sound better AT FIRST but as you start to turn it up and all you hear is treble and highs and lows fade out the base system would sound better at that point. Take your pick. Either way you do not need rear speakers in a sports car the size of a z so that should not be looked at as a positive thing with the bose.

If you want the best way to go, go aftermarket.

optiontrader · 12-11-2010, 01:29 AM

Not bad of a resurrect on this thread - have seen worse.

The bass isn't bad (ducks), it's somewhat tight, and tuneful; if not a little subdued. You can do MUCH better with an aftermarket setup.

The tweets are a bit grainy and vague - that's my main problem.

Bottom line: you're not going to choose between one or the other trim based on getting the Bose stereo; it's ain't all that. Opt up for the Touring trim if you want all the other niceties (NAV option, leather, etc.).

mpkayeuk · 01-11-2011, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

They or no one rely does that.

This is not true at all! Jaguar use Bowers and Wilkins! It doesn't get much better than that

09-18-2009, 04:46 PM	#31 (permalink)
The Weapon Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 286 Drives: 370Z Tour/Sport Blk Rep Power: 3371	I just upgraded my Bose w/ Nav this weekend with a pair of Focal 165VS and 1 Old 12inch Kove Armegeddon M Series DVC I used the MTX Re-Q to and wired it to the harness that went into the factory Bose Amp to 2 Punch Amps. 1 600a4 and 250.1. Coming from aftermarket stereo in my 350Z i was kind of worried of the SQ but it sounds pretty good to me. It's loud, it's clear, there's no issues with sound fading at high volumes. You turn it up and it gets louder without distortion. The only problem i had was the remote wire wasn't strong enough to power on both amps and i had to run the remote for the sub to the lighter which really doesn't matter because as soon as you turn the car it powers up the amps anyways without the stereo being on so you can have sound for the navigation/voice commands. If looking stock is important then get the Bose. If not then start from scratch. __________________ Boosted Performance Comp Turbo - Tuner- CJM Fuel Return- Modified Berk CBE- ZSpeed Stage 4 Clutch - Southbend Flywheel - Tuned by Seb ~650whp - HKS Coilovers - SPL - Focal Audio 4 way Active - Audiocontrol DSP - Work CR 2P

09-18-2009, 07:21 PM	#33 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	They or no one rely does that. I mean even Mitsubishi and RF there systems are good but could be better. Most car companies are not interested in car audio they are more worried about weight and power. Even in there brochure they said "we have even shaved weight from places you would not think of like 5 pounds was shaved from the audio system" I mean that is directly form there words. Like I said the only real way to get a system is put on in yourself. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/ Last edited by bigaudiofanat; 09-24-2009 at 07:45 AM.

09-24-2009, 07:45 AM	#35 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	Never heard of that and if they do they do not use much of it. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

09-24-2009, 03:59 PM	#37 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	But in the z's case they are worried about weight like I said they said it right in there paper. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/ Last edited by bigaudiofanat; 09-24-2009 at 10:24 PM.

12-10-2010, 09:09 PM	#43 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	The bose would probably sound better AT FIRST but as you start to turn it up and all you hear is treble and highs and lows fade out the base system would sound better at that point. Take your pick. Either way you do not need rear speakers in a sports car the size of a z so that should not be looked at as a positive thing with the bose. If you want the best way to go, go aftermarket. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

09-18-2009, 07:13 PM	#32 (permalink)
SlikNik Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 294 Drives: 2015 Corvette Z51 Rep Power: 18	I really wish Nissan would have teamed up with a quality aftermarket stereo company and put some real options into the audio setup. How nice would it be to have a system that really hits and not have to pull one door panel or trim pieces off. Hell I would pay extra if it was a quality system. The Bose name for whatever reason some people equate to good audio. Look at the picture above of the amp that is the size of a cigarette pack. OMG that is funny. The base system is absolute junk, speakers can't handle any volume but hey I knew it wasn't any good when I bought the car. Definitely going to put a few grand into the audio which will make the car perfect.

09-24-2009, 02:30 AM	#34 (permalink)
Daishi Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 683 Drives: 09 370z 6Speed Rep Power: 16	Vw has dynaudio sound upgrades.. Why couldn't Nissan use them. Would of been great.

12-09-2010, 06:37 AM	#39 (permalink)
papashango Base Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Northeast Posts: 44 Drives: Japanese Rep Power: 14	How is the bass in the bose model? is it decent or horrible?

12-10-2010, 01:31 AM	#41 (permalink)
SVTNate Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 89 Drives: 2010 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 14	I've had aftermarket stereos in my last 3 cars, my last being a BMW with Alpine amps and CDT HD series components/subwoofer. Honestly, the Bose is okay. Reading all this stuff about the Bose makes me wonder whether it's worth the expense and headache to replace it all. I don't listen to my music loud anymore. I'd like better iPod integration, more bass, and higher quality sound, but the Bose is at least good enough that I haven't made that decision yet. Of course the car is only 2 weeks old, lol!

12-10-2010, 07:56 PM	#42 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	one thing for sure the base system does blow. talk radio even sounds bad on it. i changed mine out in stages. speakers first jbl's in did improve sq. then the HU JVC DD w/bluetooth it works great with my iphone/ipod i can control it from the unit. it also has a front usb port. next will be a sub just don't know what. leaning towards a powered one..

12-11-2010, 01:29 AM	#44 (permalink)
optiontrader Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Smog Hell, SoCal Posts: 595 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 15	Not bad of a resurrect on this thread - have seen worse. The bass isn't bad (ducks), it's somewhat tight, and tuneful; if not a little subdued. You can do MUCH better with an aftermarket setup. The tweets are a bit grainy and vague - that's my main problem. Bottom line: you're not going to choose between one or the other trim based on getting the Bose stereo; it's ain't all that. Opt up for the Touring trim if you want all the other niceties (NAV option, leather, etc.). __________________ 40th Anniversary Z - 3M Paint Protection Film, CA Legal Tint! (70/40)

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