Base vs. Bose speaker/sound

bigaudiofanat

Never heard of that and if they do they do not use much of it.

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bigaudiofanat

But in the z's case they are worried about weight like I said they said it right in there paper.

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papashango

How is the bass in the bose model? is it decent or horrible?

PontualZ

I have the bose and the bass is decent. I'm not an audiophile like many of the guys responding to this thread, but I have no problem with the bose set up.

SVTNate

I've had aftermarket stereos in my last 3 cars, my last being a BMW with Alpine amps and CDT HD series components/subwoofer. Honestly, the Bose is okay. Reading all this stuff about the Bose makes me wonder whether it's worth the expense and headache to replace it all. I don't listen to my music loud anymore. I'd like better iPod integration, more bass, and higher quality sound, but the Bose is at least good enough that I haven't made that decision yet. Of course the car is only 2 weeks old, lol!

sonic370

one thing for sure the base system does blow. talk radio even sounds bad on it. i changed mine out in stages. speakers first jbl's in did improve sq.
then the HU JVC DD w/bluetooth it works great with my iphone/ipod
i can control it from the unit. it also has a front usb port.

next will be a sub just don't know what. leaning towards a powered one..

bigaudiofanat

The bose would probably sound better AT FIRST but as you start to turn it up and all you hear is treble and highs and lows fade out the base system would sound better at that point. Take your pick. Either way you do not need rear speakers in a sports car the size of a z so that should not be looked at as a positive thing with the bose.

If you want the best way to go, go aftermarket.

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optiontrader

Not bad of a resurrect on this thread - have seen worse.

The bass isn't bad (ducks), it's somewhat tight, and tuneful; if not a little subdued. You can do MUCH better with an aftermarket setup.

The tweets are a bit grainy and vague - that's my main problem.

Bottom line: you're not going to choose between one or the other trim based on getting the Bose stereo; it's ain't all that. Opt up for the Touring trim if you want all the other niceties (NAV option, leather, etc.).

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fugeesnfunion

Today's high end cars DO NOT require you to "go aftermarket" to get "audiophile" grade sound quality. My BMW 335i has the Logic7 system in it and it sounds amazing. I've had an aftermarket sub in every car I've owned, so when I got the 335 I literally drove straight to the local car audio shop to see what they could do for it. After figuring out some options I actually gave the factory system a trial and I was blown away. The logic7 uses a center channel, tweeter in the pillars, mid-range in the front doors, mid range on the rear doors, two speakers in the rear deck, and a sub under each front seat.

I'm pretty disappointed to see how dissatisfied most of you are with the "upgraded" Bose system in the 370z. I'm getting my yearly new car itch and after literally hours and hours of searching online, I'm starting to seriously consider the 370z. I'm just worried about coming from a car that was just under 60k out the door to a car that's barely 40 fully loaded, and reading this about the sound system is disheartening. Obviously a sound system doesn't make a car, and I'm not against going aftermarket, but I'd love to not HAVE to.

optiontrader

I think the Bose sound system in the Z is 2/3 the sound of my bud's 335i system (2/3 = $40/$60). I think you're good there; but you're gonna have more fun driving the Z (get a manual!).

Indeed:
Lexus' Mark Levinson systems I think are the best out there. I didn't know Jag used B&W. Hyundai even uses Logic 7 (Harman Int'l: not quite Levinson, but pretty good).

Why Nissan used Bose? Ugh...

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fugeesnfunion

A few hours after I posted that last comment I went and test drove a 370z. I brought my stereo line in cord just so I could plug in the iPhone and test out of the Bose system after reading all the complaints. After listening to some rap, rock, and pop songs to give it a full test, I was more than impressed. Maybe it was because I was going in with such low expectations, but it wasn't NEARLY as bad as people are making it out in here. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that I drove a 2011, but from the research I've done the system is basically the same as the 2009-10. Was it as good as the Logic 7 system in my BMW? Of course not. Was it better than 90% of the cars out there? Absolutely.

It's hard to complain when you consider that system automatically comes with the touring package, especially when my Logic 7 cost almost $2k ON TOP of the $2k+ navi upgrade. To fully load the 335i I had to buy a premium package, sport package, Logic 7 package, comfort access, iPod integration, and navi package and each one was $2k or way more (besides the comfort access and iPod integration). To fully load a 370z you only need to get the touring/sport package and navi. Of course the BMW comes with more, but the 370z more than covers all the basics.

You guys need to stop complaining! The 370z is absolutely incredible value for money. And if anyone else is reading this and now worried from reading all the complaints, make sure you give it a try yourself before you make a judgment. Oh and not getting the touring package because you're worried about the difficulty in upgrading the system is absolutely CRAZY! Changing your speakers out might cost a little bit more but it's not like you're talking about thousands of dollars to do it. The touring package is WAY more than just a nicer sound system, and if you're THAT concerned about every penny you shouldn't be in a dedicated sports car anyways.

If anyone cares, I'm actually a little less excited about the car after driving it. I was definitely expecting something a lot faster.. Maybe the engine just needs to be broken in

fugeesnfunion

I think they should continue the current Bose system, or something equivalent, when you get the touring, BUT it probably wouldn't be a terrible idea to add an option for something more substantial. With a $700 optional system upgrade they could easily double, and maybe even triple, what the current Bose system offers. I'm sure a lot of people would go for it. I'd LOVE to see a car go with JL audio for the factory system, they've always been my favorite aftermarket subs, speakers, and amps. They might not be as flashy as some of the new stuff coming out but that's only because they put all their effort into the actual performance of their products.

alvinmathew88

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optiontrader

Agreed - an option upgrade to the Bose would be welcome.

Our VQ37 will never match the torque responsiveness of BMW's E54. That motor is an engineering marvel. Many say it's grossly underated in the specs, and I'll need to agree.

While the power delivery is smooth on the E54, you'll need to wind the VQ out - that's where it really delivers. As much as I like the 335i, it's a cruiser that can go fast. I find more involvement in the Z that makes daily driving fun; and for cheap.

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fugeesnfunion

I've always respected Nissan's V6. How many years in a row did it win engine of the year? Half a dozen or something? I did some reading on the 370z a little more after the test drive and what you said is identical to all the other advice. I wasn't aware that its power band was more "high-rev" happy. And your comment on the N54 is spot on as well. It's an incredibly tourqy engine, almost to a fault in some people's minds. It has SO much low RPM power that it starts running out of steam when the needle hangs out on the right side of the tach. It's really hard adjusting to an engine that needs so much more wringing out, but they obviously did that on purpose. I imagine it's better for track driving. Nissan's V6 doesn't need to defend itself though, it's already well proven and universally praised.

The hardest part of looking for a replacement is finding a car that's just as/more powerful that isn't a V8, but I have to say the 370z has been one of the closest. I'm really curious what a free flowing cat, exhaust, and intake would do. It almost feels like the VQ just needs to breath more to perform the way it wants.