Amp suggestions please

bigaudiofanat · 11-05-2009, 08:22 PM

Indeed man well said!

ConchZ2 · 11-06-2009, 06:46 AM

With "THE NEW" Pioneer Amps, there is no sacrifice between quality and quanity in building the ulimate system.

Pioneer USA - Amplifiers

CNET Editors' Choice Awards 2009 Winners

kdo2milger · 11-06-2009, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConchZ2

With "THE NEW" Pioneer Amps, there is no sacrifice between quality and quanity in building the ulimate system.

Pioneer USA - Amplifiers

CNET Editors' Choice Awards 2009 Winners

Damn Conch...

i have to ask...

do you own stock in pioneer?!? i mean really...do you have to promote them in every post!!!

vipor · 11-06-2009, 09:04 AM

I've never liked Pioneer amps, only Head Units. Their Kevlar separates are/were decent and their Premier amps were merely above average.

frost · 11-06-2009, 09:10 AM

I used to love pioneer .... used to. They seemed to go dramatically downhill circa 2002. Not sure if they ever turned back around like conch is saying, but I used to be the biggest pioneer brand snob, now, eh. Now that I think about it, the quality seems to of started going down around the same time they changed logos:

vipor · 11-06-2009, 09:13 AM

LOL I can agree with that somewhat. I did 12V from about 98 through 04 and it progressed from a fairly decent line to a strictly head unit line. I'll still be purchasing a Pionner HU when I upgrade my system, but I'll go with MTX or JL or something for amps when time comes.

kdo2milger · 11-06-2009, 09:13 AM

shouldve stayed with their previous logo...

ConchZ2 · 11-06-2009, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor

LOL I can agree with that somewhat. I did 12V from about 98 through 04 and it progressed from a fairly decent line to a strictly head unit line. I'll still be purchasing a Pionner HU when I upgrade my system, but I'll go with MTX or JL or something for amps when time comes.

JL amps are really a Great Amp.........maybe a little better than Pioneer's amps, But, there is no denying the overall quality & features that the New Pioneer HU's have over the competition.

bigaudiofanat · 11-06-2009, 10:36 AM

LOL Jl is one of the top manufactures way better than pioneer. As far as pioneer having more features, na you need to look at kenwood and alpine again.

Also pioneer is sold at walmart along with cheap stuff like sony and valor, There I am done.

vipor · 11-06-2009, 10:37 AM

the pioneer line at wally world is made for them specifically. they do not carry the standard product. if you notice the p/ns are missing a digit or two. they cheap out on preamp voltage and eq/outputs.

ConchZ2 · 11-06-2009, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger

Damn Conch...

i have to ask...

do you own stock in pioneer?!? i mean really...do you have to promote them in every post!!!

When someone inquires about purchasing a quality Head Unit, I recommend Kenwood, Pioneer and Eclipse. These Head Units are at the top! Anyone who bashes them are really in the minority or have an alternative motive.

bigaudiofanat · 11-06-2009, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConchZ2

When someone inquires about purchasing a quality Head Unit, I recommend Kenwood, Alpine and Eclipse. These Head Units are at the top! Anyone who bashes them are really in the minority or have an alternative motive.

I fixed that for you

ConchZ2 · 11-06-2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

LOL Jl is one of the top manufactures way better than pioneer. As far as pioneer having more features, na you need to look at kenwood and alpine again.

Also pioneer is sold at walmart along with cheap stuff like sony and valor, There I am done.

Are you for real??

here is an easy example you might understand.......

Walmart & Costco sells Sony HDTV. They are at the bottom of Sony's HDTV product line. Its only for name recognition. You will never see the XBR or Z series at Costco or Walmart. People who shop at discount stores are looking for discounts.

TXSpeedDemon · 11-06-2009, 10:59 AM

Thanks guys. Been doing more research on Soundstream the last few days and felt the same way - all the awards they've won have been really old ones. there are just so many choices out there it's starting to feel a little overwhelming.

I think I'm just going to say "F-it" and splurge on a boston acoustics gt-2300. Way out of my original price range but I've found them online for $550.

- 300 watts RMS x 2 at 4 ohms (500 watts RMS x 2 at 2 ohms)
- 1-ohm stable in stereo mode (700 watts RMS at 1 ohm)

Really high reviews for SQ, plus keeps everything consistent with the BA G5 10-44 subs I have. Means waiting another 2 weeks to purchase but should give me really nice, clean power and sound.

bigaudiofanat · 11-06-2009, 11:02 AM

I think you will like the BA's if you need any help just ask! Now also keep in mind your amp will not be putting out 700 watts because you are going to be running at 2 ohms not 1. Also make sure to look at car audio 101 thread for how to set your gains, that way you can enjoy your setup for years to come!

11-05-2009, 08:22 PM	#16 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	Indeed man well said! __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

11-06-2009, 09:04 AM	#19 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 41 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 48	I've never liked Pioneer amps, only Head Units. Their Kevlar separates are/were decent and their Premier amps were merely above average. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

11-06-2009, 09:13 AM	#21 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 41 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 48	LOL I can agree with that somewhat. I did 12V from about 98 through 04 and it progressed from a fairly decent line to a strictly head unit line. I'll still be purchasing a Pionner HU when I upgrade my system, but I'll go with MTX or JL or something for amps when time comes. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

11-06-2009, 09:13 AM	#22 (permalink)
kdo2milger OG Priesthood Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 17,859 Drives: NISMO T Rep Power: 59	shouldve stayed with their previous logo... __________________ Project *NISMO*

11-06-2009, 10:36 AM	#24 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	LOL Jl is one of the top manufactures way better than pioneer. As far as pioneer having more features, na you need to look at kenwood and alpine again. Also pioneer is sold at walmart along with cheap stuff like sony and valor, There I am done. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

11-06-2009, 06:46 AM	#17 (permalink)
ConchZ2 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: connecticut Posts: 329 Drives: 09 370Z red 6sp sprt Rep Power: 16	With "THE NEW" Pioneer Amps, there is no sacrifice between quality and quanity in building the ulimate system. Pioneer USA - Amplifiers CNET Editors' Choice Awards 2009 Winners

11-06-2009, 09:10 AM	#20 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	I used to love pioneer .... used to. They seemed to go dramatically downhill circa 2002. Not sure if they ever turned back around like conch is saying, but I used to be the biggest pioneer brand snob, now, eh. Now that I think about it, the quality seems to of started going down around the same time they changed logos:

11-06-2009, 10:37 AM	#25 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 41 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 48	the pioneer line at wally world is made for them specifically. they do not carry the standard product. if you notice the p/ns are missing a digit or two. they cheap out on preamp voltage and eq/outputs. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

11-06-2009, 10:59 AM	#29 (permalink)
TXSpeedDemon Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 328 Drives: 370Z, 03 MSP, R8 v10 Rep Power: 3370	Thanks guys. Been doing more research on Soundstream the last few days and felt the same way - all the awards they've won have been really old ones. there are just so many choices out there it's starting to feel a little overwhelming. I think I'm just going to say "F-it" and splurge on a boston acoustics gt-2300. Way out of my original price range but I've found them online for $550. - 300 watts RMS x 2 at 4 ohms (500 watts RMS x 2 at 2 ohms) - 1-ohm stable in stereo mode (700 watts RMS at 1 ohm) Really high reviews for SQ, plus keeps everything consistent with the BA G5 10-44 subs I have. Means waiting another 2 weeks to purchase but should give me really nice, clean power and sound.

11-06-2009, 11:02 AM	#30 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	I think you will like the BA's if you need any help just ask! Now also keep in mind your amp will not be putting out 700 watts because you are going to be running at 2 ohms not 1. Also make sure to look at car audio 101 thread for how to set your gains, that way you can enjoy your setup for years to come! __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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