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I've had the Falken RT615's on my RE30's and they are a great tire.
I am not rallying or getting sideways on public roads so it all depends on your application. For a DD they are a solid alternative. My STI comes stock with some pretty sick tires RE070 Bridgestones (may they rest in peace) so yes there is a bit of trade-off, but not much for my application. Def a tire worth looking at if you are ballin on a budget. Nothing wrong with saving some coin! |
my 370Z will only see RE050A's or the pole positions. my dd runs on Fuzion ZRi or watever it was called. from bridgestone with Uni-T, grips very well for the price.
if on a budget i would go for the Sumi III's. it has reinforced inner treads like the RE050A's and performs very well. Sumitomo HTR Z III falken to me is like dealing with nitto. and ive had terrible experience with both of them. never again. i have to agree with most of you that on a car like a Z which is practically unusable other than for fun and transportation, it should be used as a luxury and luxury will require some ownage to price. |
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first off the re050 and re050a are 2 different tires. Second the nismo comes with yoko's so the bridgestones aren't the best. Are stock tires aren't that bad but MAN are the pricey. I'm going NITTO NT05 this winter as i have hammered 8500+ miles this summer and the bridgestones are hard as rocks now. Not bald but they hardened up good aren't what they were. NT05 have the highest tread to gap ratio i've seen on a street tire and they are a step up from their invo line. Granted they are still almost 1000 a set. which is still $50 chaeper per tire than the re050a's
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All signals right now are pointing towards the NISMO's tires being the reason its performance trails the Sport. In every single documented aspect of performance, from acceleration, braking, and skidpad/slalom figures in independent magazine-tests to Best Motoring's lap-times on Tsukuba, the Z34 with simply the Sport package has outperformed the NISMO. It would be one thing if some of the figures here and there were in favor of one versus the other from different tests, but no...the NISMO has consistently been behind the Sport across the board. There was even a test where the two were put head-to-head and the Sport was better in every measurable aspect (and it was the slightly heavier Touring to add insult to injury). The NISMO was even slower than a 135i, Camaro SS, and Jaguar XFR around Laguna Seca for chrissakes. So, yeah...the Advan Sports gotta be better than the RE050As. :ugh2: |
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The extreme cornering I did in the Shelby with the KDWS tires I always have to think twice about doing the same in the 370Z entirely because the RE050A's don't strike me with the confidence that the KDWS tires gave me in terms of holding to the road curve. In addition the RE050A's don't tread water to the degree that the KDWS do. I never slid nor hydroplaned using the KDWS tires going 70 to 80 MPH on drenched highway roads but I have slid and hydroplaned on the RE050A's going even less. In fact the fastest I would dare go in drenched highway driving usng the RE050A's is between 60 to 65 MPH. And lastly the KDWS are $50 to $75 cheaper than the RE050A's. And I am positive that buying through the various tire discounterers one can get the price down on KDWS tires more so than on RE050A's as the latter tire tends to skew the vendors into thinking the buyer has very deep pockets. The KDWS is as it name claims, an ULTRA-HIGH PERFORMANCE tire that the RE050A's just cannot live up to. I am not saying the RE050A's aren't good tires...I am just saying that they cannot live up to any claim made by anyone that they are the best. |
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IMO they are Falken Awesome!!!
sorry i couldn't resist.... |
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I've heard a few people telling me that the Bridgestone OEMs have stiffer sidewalls...how do the Falkens' sidewalls compare?
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All I gota say is KDW2 ftw
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ZKindaGuy Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 302 Drives: 350Z <= Rep Power: 1 |
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I used the Azenis 215 on my Miata back in '05. At the time, they were considered THE UNQUALIFIED BEST non-R competition tire to have for autocross. They were the stickiest non-R tire I've ever used. They were discontinued though.
Pros: -Sticky as hell -Legal for competition where your couldn't use R tires -Really stiff sidewall, little roll over -Inexpensive (I believe because they had little tread depth, basically they were manufactured at a "shaved" depth) Cons: -Only lasted 10k miles -Became REALLY noisy around 7k. I mean "sounds like we're driving on basketballs" noisy. -Got pretty slick at less than 55 degrees or so. When they wore out, I got something slightly less agressive. They were fun while they lasted, but newer revisions were almost double the price and the reviews weren't quite as high. |
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Stiffer and Stuff Primarily this extra speed comes courtesy of the 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z's all-new suspension components. Front and rear spring rates are up 15 and 10 percent, respectively. The front antiroll bar is 15 percent stiffer and the rear one is 50 percent stiffer. Front damping is increased 40 percent while rear damping is increased 140 percent. The combination yields a 15 percent increase in overall roll stiffness, the Nissan engineer tells us, making the already flat-cornering Z corner even more, well, flat. Wider rear tires don't hurt, either. The 245/40ZR19 front and 275/35ZR19 rear Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires of the standard 370Z with Sport package have been replaced with 245/40ZR19 front and 285/35ZR19 rear Yokohama Advan Sport tires. The stickier rubber is mounted on forged-aluminum Rays wheels (19-by-9.5 inches front and 19-by-10.5 inches rear) with rims that are a half inch wider than the stock Z's wheels. They screwed up the balance the stock version has by stiffening up the light rear more than the front. |
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hold ur horses....
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^What????
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lol well which one boss? haha
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LOL alright well I give up ;)
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so, would you use Falkens at 130MPH ??
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LOL you know what, Ill try that today and get back to you... and if I dont get back to you... well the falkens shredded at 130 and I am either dead or in the hospital
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I agree. It's like cheap toilet paper, you get what you pay for.
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You get what you pay for!!
Michelin Pilot sport all season Plus. They cost a little more but the treadwear rating is 500 compared to the Bridgestones that come on the car there tread wear rating is 140. This means you the bridgestones will wear out 3 times faster. Buy cheap and pay three times. Not that cheap in the end!! |
Steve Millen came to ZCON09 and drove a few cars on the track and one of them being a 370z NISMO. We asked him which of the two NISMO's he would prefer, a 350z or a 370z. He said the 350z himself as it is more of a hard core handling vehicle while the 370z is 60-70% most of a daily and the 30-40 % left is for performance.
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How bout the Hankook Ventos V12? for a cheap tire, it sure out performs some other high end brands, coming in 2nd in this Car & Driver test.
For the money, I think I will just try them, can get a set for about $800, if I don't like them, I'll just recycle them. I want to run the 305/30/19 rear - 255/35/19 front. Cant seam to find the Falkens in that size. Tire Test: Nine Affordable Summer Tires Take On the Michelin PS2 - Comparison Tests - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver |
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Why would you even be looking at all-seasons if you live in TX? :icon14: |
Dude you obviously don't track if you think highly of the stock tires...geez...i just tracked my Z today...and the stock tires are cry babies, well they were good until i learned the course and then started pushin it...i WISH i could get a set of the Falken RT615s, or Yoko A048s like i had on my 350z when i tracked it....but i haven't found them yet in 19"
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I never said the stock tires are great on a track...they are street-tires for chrissakes. They are, however, up there with the top non R-compound street-tires on the market. |
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