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STI-GUY 09-21-2009 01:58 PM

I've had the Falken RT615's on my RE30's and they are a great tire.
I am not rallying or getting sideways on public roads so
it all depends on your application.
For a DD they are a solid alternative.
My STI comes stock with some pretty sick tires RE070 Bridgestones (may they rest in peace) so yes there is a bit of trade-off, but not much for my application.
Def a tire worth looking at if you are ballin on a budget.

Nothing wrong with saving some coin!

kenchan 09-24-2009 12:12 PM

my 370Z will only see RE050A's or the pole positions. my dd runs on Fuzion ZRi or watever it was called. from bridgestone with Uni-T, grips very well for the price.

if on a budget i would go for the Sumi III's. it has reinforced inner treads like the RE050A's and performs very well.

Sumitomo HTR Z III

falken to me is like dealing with nitto. and ive had terrible experience with both of them. never again.

i have to agree with most of you that on a car like a Z which is
practically unusable other than for fun and transportation, it
should be used as a luxury and luxury will require some ownage
to price.

VIP-STATUS 09-26-2009 12:50 PM

Falken 452
255-30-20+305-25-20:tup:
YouTube - Venaci VS124 on Nissan 370Z Test Run/Drifting

1slow370 09-27-2009 02:55 AM

first off the re050 and re050a are 2 different tires. Second the nismo comes with yoko's so the bridgestones aren't the best. Are stock tires aren't that bad but MAN are the pricey. I'm going NITTO NT05 this winter as i have hammered 8500+ miles this summer and the bridgestones are hard as rocks now. Not bald but they hardened up good aren't what they were. NT05 have the highest tread to gap ratio i've seen on a street tire and they are a step up from their invo line. Granted they are still almost 1000 a set. which is still $50 chaeper per tire than the re050a's

blue660r01 09-27-2009 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 193964)
LOL.

Have all the "bang for your buck" you want...they are still a major downgrade from the factory tires. Falken doesn't even have a street-tire in the same league as the RE050A. Tires are among the most critical aspects of a car, and frankly the last place I'd skimp just to save $200.

But hey, if you're a broke college student working paycheck-to-paycheck just to make your car payments, by all means...get the most bang for your buck possible. Don't stop at Falken, though. Take a look at the Fuzion ZRi or Exclaim UHP...similar tires that you only see on bastardized, riced out pieces of crap. :ugh2:

Potenzas suck

1slow370 09-27-2009 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 214884)
Potenzas suck

not the GTR potenzas but they're a lil different

Trips 09-27-2009 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 193302)
they are the best budget tires, very good bang for the buck and they are meaty tires too..... i heard nothing but good things

Falken 452's FTW!!!!

:iagree: I used this on my 240 to do burnouts and baby do they take a licking.

JoeD 09-27-2009 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 214872)
Second the nismo comes with yoko's so the bridgestones aren't the best.

You sure about that? What's your reasoning...simply because they are on the NISMO and not the Sport? :icon14:

All signals right now are pointing towards the NISMO's tires being the reason its performance trails the Sport. In every single documented aspect of performance, from acceleration, braking, and skidpad/slalom figures in independent magazine-tests to Best Motoring's lap-times on Tsukuba, the Z34 with simply the Sport package has outperformed the NISMO.

It would be one thing if some of the figures here and there were in favor of one versus the other from different tests, but no...the NISMO has consistently been behind the Sport across the board. There was even a test where the two were put head-to-head and the Sport was better in every measurable aspect (and it was the slightly heavier Touring to add insult to injury). The NISMO was even slower than a 135i, Camaro SS, and Jaguar XFR around Laguna Seca for chrissakes.

So, yeah...the Advan Sports gotta be better than the RE050As. :ugh2:

ZKindaGuy 09-27-2009 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 193406)
The car comes from the factory with RE050As, among the best street-tires money can buy. Why someone would get a set of "budget tires" afterwards is beyond me.

Stick with RE050A PPs, PS2, or P Zeros. Any other non R-compound street-tire is a downgrade.

The very first thing I noticed about the RE050A's is that they do NOT have the gripping / cornering capability that BF Goodrich G-Force T/A KDWS tires had on my Shelby Mustang GT.

The extreme cornering I did in the Shelby with the KDWS tires I always have to think twice about doing the same in the 370Z entirely because the RE050A's don't strike me with the confidence that the KDWS tires gave me in terms of holding to the road curve.

In addition the RE050A's don't tread water to the degree that the KDWS do. I never slid nor hydroplaned using the KDWS tires going 70 to 80 MPH on drenched highway roads but I have slid and hydroplaned on the RE050A's going even less. In fact the fastest I would dare go in drenched highway driving usng the RE050A's is between 60 to 65 MPH.

And lastly the KDWS are $50 to $75 cheaper than the RE050A's. And I am positive that buying through the various tire discounterers one can get the price down on KDWS tires more so than on RE050A's as the latter tire tends to skew the vendors into thinking the buyer has very deep pockets.

The KDWS is as it name claims, an ULTRA-HIGH PERFORMANCE tire that the RE050A's just cannot live up to. I am not saying the RE050A's aren't good tires...I am just saying that they cannot live up to any claim made by anyone that they are the best.

ZKindaGuy 09-27-2009 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 211185)

...luxury will require some ownage to price.

That's :bs:...Such an elistist type of opinion.

kenchan 09-27-2009 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 214923)
That's :bs:...Such an elistist type of opinion.

well, that's why you're in the old 350z and i am in a 370z. :hello::tup: ;)

SgtGoldy 09-27-2009 10:51 AM

IMO they are Falken Awesome!!!


sorry i couldn't resist....

blue660r01 09-27-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 214903)
not the GTR potenzas but they're a lil different

When I got my 350 my rears wore out in 6k miles and I never spun tire.

kenchan 09-27-2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 09Nismo (Post 214967)
IMO they are Falken Awesome!!!


sorry i couldn't resist....

:D lol!

MeetJoeAsian 09-27-2009 05:59 PM

I've heard a few people telling me that the Bridgestone OEMs have stiffer sidewalls...how do the Falkens' sidewalls compare?

blue660r01 09-27-2009 06:18 PM

All I gota say is KDW2 ftw

kenchan 09-27-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MeetJoeAsian (Post 215426)
I've heard a few people telling me that the Bridgestone OEMs have stiffer sidewalls...how do the Falkens' sidewalls compare?

Get the Sumitomo's I posted earlier from TireRack. Sumitomo does all the high perf tires at their factory in Japan...including the Dunlops. Read the reviews at tirerack. :)

ZKindaGuy 09-28-2009 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 214940)
well, that's why you're in the old 350z and i am in a 370z. :hello::tup: ;)

What are you talking about? I have a 370Z. Where did you infer that from?

kenchan 09-28-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 216132)
What are you talking about? I have a 370Z. Where did you infer that from?

:confused: oh yah? cause your info under your handle says:

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Togo 09-28-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 216194)
:confused: oh yah? cause your info under your handle says:

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Ubunoir 09-28-2009 03:02 PM

I used the Azenis 215 on my Miata back in '05. At the time, they were considered THE UNQUALIFIED BEST non-R competition tire to have for autocross. They were the stickiest non-R tire I've ever used. They were discontinued though.

Pros:
-Sticky as hell
-Legal for competition where your couldn't use R tires
-Really stiff sidewall, little roll over
-Inexpensive (I believe because they had little tread depth, basically they were manufactured at a "shaved" depth)

Cons:
-Only lasted 10k miles
-Became REALLY noisy around 7k. I mean "sounds like we're driving on basketballs" noisy.
-Got pretty slick at less than 55 degrees or so.

When they wore out, I got something slightly less agressive. They were fun while they lasted, but newer revisions were almost double the price and the reviews weren't quite as high.

shumby 09-28-2009 03:17 PM

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:tup:

1slow370 09-29-2009 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 214914)
You sure about that? What's your reasoning...simply because they are on the NISMO and not the Sport? :icon14:

All signals right now are pointing towards the NISMO's tires being the reason its performance trails the Sport. In every single documented aspect of performance, from acceleration, braking, and skidpad/slalom figures in independent magazine-tests to Best Motoring's lap-times on Tsukuba, the Z34 with simply the Sport package has outperformed the NISMO.

It would be one thing if some of the figures here and there were in favor of one versus the other from different tests, but no...the NISMO has consistently been behind the Sport across the board. There was even a test where the two were put head-to-head and the Sport was better in every measurable aspect (and it was the slightly heavier Touring to add insult to injury). The NISMO was even slower than a 135i, Camaro SS, and Jaguar XFR around Laguna Seca for chrissakes.

So, yeah...the Advan Sports gotta be better than the RE050As. :ugh2:

It's not the tires, and advan sports are in every way better than re050a's in every single review i've read about them. True the nismo blows I'm not disagreeing on that, but it's not the tires fault. The car is more susceptible to oversteer in the nismo iteration: (Taken from Edmund's)

Stiffer and Stuff
Primarily this extra speed comes courtesy of the 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z's all-new suspension components. Front and rear spring rates are up 15 and 10 percent, respectively. The front antiroll bar is 15 percent stiffer and the rear one is 50 percent stiffer. Front damping is increased 40 percent while rear damping is increased 140 percent. The combination yields a 15 percent increase in overall roll stiffness, the Nissan engineer tells us, making the already flat-cornering Z corner even more, well, flat.

Wider rear tires don't hurt, either. The 245/40ZR19 front and 275/35ZR19 rear Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires of the standard 370Z with Sport package have been replaced with 245/40ZR19 front and 285/35ZR19 rear Yokohama Advan Sport tires. The stickier rubber is mounted on forged-aluminum Rays wheels (19-by-9.5 inches front and 19-by-10.5 inches rear) with rims that are a half inch wider than the stock Z's wheels.

They screwed up the balance the stock version has by stiffening up the light rear more than the front.

SgtGoldy 09-29-2009 09:14 AM

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nogoodname 09-29-2009 09:18 AM

hold ur horses....

SgtGoldy 09-29-2009 09:20 AM

^What????

SgtGoldy 09-29-2009 09:23 AM

lol well which one boss? haha

SgtGoldy 09-29-2009 09:31 AM

LOL alright well I give up ;)

nogoodname 09-29-2009 09:36 AM

so, would you use Falkens at 130MPH ??

SgtGoldy 09-29-2009 09:53 AM

LOL you know what, Ill try that today and get back to you... and if I dont get back to you... well the falkens shredded at 130 and I am either dead or in the hospital

ZKindaGuy 09-29-2009 10:23 AM

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Ooopppsss... that's wrong!

Rhinetom 09-29-2009 10:40 AM

I agree. It's like cheap toilet paper, you get what you pay for.

kenchan 09-29-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 217081)
Ooopppsss... that's wrong!

:tup:

FloridaViking 10-04-2009 10:36 AM

You get what you pay for!!
Michelin Pilot sport all season Plus. They cost a little more but the treadwear rating is 500 compared to the Bridgestones that come on the car there tread wear rating is 140. This means you the bridgestones will wear out 3 times faster. Buy cheap and pay three times. Not that cheap in the end!!

NIZMOZ 10-04-2009 01:02 PM

Steve Millen came to ZCON09 and drove a few cars on the track and one of them being a 370z NISMO. We asked him which of the two NISMO's he would prefer, a 350z or a 370z. He said the 350z himself as it is more of a hard core handling vehicle while the 370z is 60-70% most of a daily and the 30-40 % left is for performance.



Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 216891)
It's not the tires, and advan sports are in every way better than re050a's in every single review i've read about them. True the nismo blows I'm not disagreeing on that, but it's not the tires fault. The car is more susceptible to oversteer in the nismo iteration: (Taken from Edmund's)

Stiffer and Stuff
Primarily this extra speed comes courtesy of the 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z's all-new suspension components. Front and rear spring rates are up 15 and 10 percent, respectively. The front antiroll bar is 15 percent stiffer and the rear one is 50 percent stiffer. Front damping is increased 40 percent while rear damping is increased 140 percent. The combination yields a 15 percent increase in overall roll stiffness, the Nissan engineer tells us, making the already flat-cornering Z corner even more, well, flat.

Wider rear tires don't hurt, either. The 245/40ZR19 front and 275/35ZR19 rear Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires of the standard 370Z with Sport package have been replaced with 245/40ZR19 front and 285/35ZR19 rear Yokohama Advan Sport tires. The stickier rubber is mounted on forged-aluminum Rays wheels (19-by-9.5 inches front and 19-by-10.5 inches rear) with rims that are a half inch wider than the stock Z's wheels.

They screwed up the balance the stock version has by stiffening up the light rear more than the front.


Minicobra1 10-04-2009 01:39 PM

How bout the Hankook Ventos V12? for a cheap tire, it sure out performs some other high end brands, coming in 2nd in this Car & Driver test.
For the money, I think I will just try them, can get a set for about $800, if I don't like them, I'll just recycle them. I want to run the 305/30/19 rear - 255/35/19 front. Cant seam to find the Falkens in that size.

Tire Test: Nine Affordable Summer Tires Take On the Michelin PS2 - Comparison Tests - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver

MeetJoeAsian 10-04-2009 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaViking (Post 221755)
You get what you pay for!!
Michelin Pilot sport all season Plus. They cost a little more but the treadwear rating is 500 compared to the Bridgestones that come on the car there tread wear rating is 140. This means you the bridgestones will wear out 3 times faster. Buy cheap and pay three times. Not that cheap in the end!!

actualyl these Michelin Pilot A/S are the ones I am considering replacing my tires with when time comes...however, I've also heard these are subpar compared to the handling vs. the OEMs...any truth to that?

JoeD 10-05-2009 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeetJoeAsian (Post 222648)
actualyl these Michelin Pilot A/S are the ones I am considering replacing my tires with when time comes...however, I've also heard these are subpar compared to the handling vs. the OEMs...any truth to that?

I'm sure there is truth to that...you're comparing all-season tires to summer tires.

Why would you even be looking at all-seasons if you live in TX? :icon14:

ZYUL8R 10-05-2009 01:34 AM

Dude you obviously don't track if you think highly of the stock tires...geez...i just tracked my Z today...and the stock tires are cry babies, well they were good until i learned the course and then started pushin it...i WISH i could get a set of the Falken RT615s, or Yoko A048s like i had on my 350z when i tracked it....but i haven't found them yet in 19"

JoeD 10-05-2009 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZYUL8R (Post 222791)
Dude you obviously don't track if you think highly of the stock tires...geez...i just tracked my Z today...and the stock tires are cry babies, well they were good until i learned the course and then started pushin it...i WISH i could get a set of the Falken RT615s, or Yoko A048s like i had on my 350z when i tracked it....but i haven't found them yet in 19"

Yes, I do "track" and have been for almost 7 years, 2 of which holding a comp licence.. However, I know better than to drive anything onto a track on street-tires. You obviously don't track competitively or even seriously.

I never said the stock tires are great on a track...they are street-tires for chrissakes. They are, however, up there with the top non R-compound street-tires on the market.


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