Where are you getting the info that Falken tires are sub par performance compared to the stockers. I'd like to read that test and review, even if it is from a "lowly magazine-test".

7th place out of the top 9 isn't bad at all considering we are talking the top 9 of how many hundred?

Where does it list the Falken 452s as not a performance tire? Are you saying that tires that stop 4 feet quicker are worth 2x the price at half the tread life for daily driving duties?

^ rational response

^rationale

This guy is probably a tool, being that he has budget performance tires...

http://www.teamfalkengb.com/pics/TFG...l/TFGBR2-2.jpg


In fact... all these guys are just outside your demo-graph apparently

http://www.mothers.com/04_community_.../falken_00.jpg
http://www.news.drift.com/content_im...falken07R1.jpg
http://www.falken.co.jp/drift/d1/rd1/img/02.jpg
http://assets.speedtv.com/images/art...img_large1.jpg

LOL...9 budget performance tires were selected for a test of, coincidentally, the top "budget performance tires." 9. Not 100. Not a couple hundred. It was also limited to a certain niche of tire, i.e. "budget performance tire." Get it? Falkens came in 7th in that test. I don't see how you and nogoodname missed that.

If a Ford Focus came in 6th place in a test of 8 economy-cars, that must be good right? Cause there has to be at least a couple hundred cars out? :rofl2:

BTW, the post above with a bunch of Falken-sponsored cars is a big win. That makes about as much sense as me posting this...

http://www.autobiz.ie/uploadedfiles/t2_Brid.jpg

:ugh2:

How old are you guys, anyway?

take another 5 hours to respond

hahahahaha

Which model Falkens were tested? And yes they picked 9 tires, presumably the 9 that are likely to score well, so that people would know what tires would be good to actually purchase, being that there are probably hundreds to choose from.

Yes if they took the 8 top rated budget economy cars and tested them and Ford came in 6th thats not bad, there are lots of choices out there for economy cars, way more than 8. Hell, I'd be flattered to even be considered in the top 8! :D


Oh and what does age have to do with Falken 452s as the OP originally asked about? I don't see how the two correlate? Explain that too while you are at it since you are apparently the go to guy for tires...:ugh2:

This thread is already on google.

Oh and in case you were confused, the "PS2s" that you keep talking about as being amazing.. are Michelin but you posted a picture of Bridgestone. I posted Falkens because we are talking about Falken Tires. The pictures just go to show what a company you'd deem a "budget company" with "budget tires" can do. Their tires must not be worth a damn if they are sponsoring all these drivers in competitive motorsports.

So you are saying that if the tire isn't a "PS2s, RE050A PPs, F1 GS-D3s, PZeros" then it's a step down? You don't mention RE-11s?

LMGTFY link?

I'll stick with these

http://www.likecool.com/Car/Other/HU...den-Wheels.jpg

^I'll stick the blonde

Let me google that for you

page 2

Ahh I searched Falken 452 and got to page 7 and nada..

< thinks in basic terms :icon17:

Well your search matches the threads title better.. :tup:

You keep dodging my questions.

I've listed them all out for you because I thought maybe you might have just missed them. :D

Is this sarcasm or are you just biased to performance tires because they make you look cool and compensate by saving $10 on pads?

Since you are sooo performance oriented why don't you get some excellent pads to match those PS2s? I'd recommend a set of Carbotech Brake Pads. You should definitely get some of their XP10s for the fronts and some XP8s for the rear. They might get a little noisy when you come to a stop but they won't fade at all and their initial bite is going to be great! :tup: I also hear they might dust your wheels a bit but hey, they will save you a ton in stopping distance as you race to beat that red light when you are heading to the grocery store.

I'm sure these would work much better than the cheap stuff you get at AutoZone so check it out. We have sponsors here that sell them. I'm sure they could get you a great price and some quick shipping.:tiphat:

Because I've realized that there is absolutely no point in trying to prove anything to a group of 18 year-olds. After reviewing the thought-process of some of you, I feel somewhat shamed for even giving the time of day. For example, the rationale behind a product being good because it was selected in comparison to others solely on the fact that it was selected, regardless of placement...now that's classic. :tup:

well, you didnt help out the OP...... saying the stock tires are better than the Falkens was wrong... then picking PS2's... then going back to the stock tires.... doesnt help

the point of the thread was is it a good tire or not... it wasnt about which tire should he get

since u are too of a "know it all".... things just dont get through ur head...lol

You still haven't answered my questions...


Sir know it all....

First off, we aren't 18 years old, but if that makes you feel better then go right ahead and think that we are, it appears to be your only defense and like the rest of your statements, you have absolutely no information to back it.

Secondly, you are welcome to find our rationale as screwed up as we find your claims that Falken 452s are of lesser quality than the stock tires. It's funny though that when asked to provide your sources for this statement you get all silent. I guess this is just a big JoeD FAIL tonight...
:ughdance:

To JoeD-knowitall-tireexpert-bigshot-60yearoldwithallthe experience. This is obviously a pointless comment/ststament but wth! - On my rx-8 I ran a set of PS2's (on the stock 18x8 wheels), they had horrible wet traction - they had OK dry tractions and they wore out in less than a year (I don't drive tpp aggressively). My next set of tires? Kumho Ecsta SPT - I would give those tires a 9 in wet and dry and an 8 in wear as oppose to those infamous PS2's you swear by which got a 6 in dry, 4 in wet and a 3 in wear - but that's just from my personal experience and doesn't matter or maybe I got a bad set. :tiphat:

Since Mr. JoeD-knowitall had to throw out the Bridgestone pictures I may as well throw out the Kumho reveiw right!?

Best bang for buck tires would be Federals 595/ 595RS. Falken do make great tires, I really like the Azenis RT615, they grip pretty well for track and street use. I wouldn't recommend them for daily use tho, but you can (well I did). Do not use RT615 if you are going to complain about fast tread wear, or not being all season (it doesn't hold up well in the rain esp for RWD from my experience).

:drama:

nogoodname, joed & togo - pm me your addresses and I'll send you 5 dollars each, so you can pop out to the mall and buy a handbag and some mascara. It might help a bit.

how about you save that 15 bucks and fix the ugly motorhome

:tiphat: I still love you and your crazy sense of humour - this forum is clearly just one of the ways you release some of the naughty old testosterone you're building up till you're old enough to buy that car.

Mr.Chubbs, you mean old enough to buy another sport car




.....LOL

And right before our eyes ... it was time for a lock :D

hey joed, why did you buy the 370z? it only has 90% of the performance that the cayman S has, but you'd only have to be on a budget to get this one. Why not spend the extra dough and do it right, like tires? I mean what's an extra few bux gonna do per year for the cayman s when you're doing it right? dont settle for this budget pseudo racecar.

^^^ why stop at a cayman S, go for a lambo

^^There you go!

I've been missin' out :P

I'm got tired of dumping $1200 (T1-S and T1-R) for tires since I'm no hardcore racer or anything. I mainly needed something that fits my Volks and could outperform the craptastic RE040 OEM tires on my 350Z.

My dad had the FK-451 on his Z a few weeks after I got my Volks and T1-S tires (circa 2004). I went through 2 sets of Toyos, sold my '03 350Z earlier this year, and bought the 370Z in April. My dad JUST replaced his first set with FK-452 last month.

So this time around I'm going to look for a set that is quieter and performs at least as well as the RE050 OEM tires. In fact, these tires are so much better to start off with than the RE040 from the 350Z.

I have used Fk-451s on my old WRX and noticed the tyres howled a lot.

My friend recently changed his tyres from Pirelli P-Zeros on his MB C63 AMG and he bought Fk-452s. They are ok. However, the only thing he dont like is that you can spin the tyres a lot easier.

My view is, if you drive a nice car, you can obviously afford it. So buy tyres in line with that mentality. It's the only thing between you and the road....