370Z on Concave from 360 Forged

nogoodname

limited production, they are not a full blown mass production company.

dyezak

Exactly, we aren't talking about Rays here. Volk has the entire Rays manufacturing facilities to help amoritize their costs. They do more than wheels (a lot more) and have the ability to spread the cost around a lot more. HRE, CCW, Fiske, etc, don't have that type of infrastructure to lean on. $2000 a wheel isn't bad when you start talking low volume true custom wheels. Call Fiske and ask them for the price of a set of their wheels for a 370z...I'll guess it'll be about $3500/wheel.

It's economy of scale and amoritization of costs across a larger customer base that allows Rays to sell Volks at such a low price.

All this is pretty basic and the specifics are lost to me because my last micro economics class in college was over 10y ago... But unlike armensti said in his last post in this thread, this is NOT a get quick rich plan:

armensti

it would be a custom rim if i drew the rim on a piece of paper and they build it for me from scratch. their not doing anything special, a custom rim is a rim that is build specifacly for one person and its not mass produced. if i knew that no one else would have the same rim as me i would pay 2k a piece but this company is going to sell those rims to more then one person so to me its still a regular rim and the quality is not going to be any better then a volk rim, it might actually be less.



i dont know if its just me but for someone that has only 16 post your very interested in this thread. im guessing you work for the same company so what your really are doing is just trying to back him up or trying to make it look like it. i dont know why but im getting that feeling. no one with 16 post would spend their time writing an essay on why we should pay 2k per rim.

dyezak

I wouldn't expect you would understand. Just like you not only didn't understand basic economics, and you didn't even try to think about it and put any effort into understanding it; you just started talking nonsense.

1. No, I don't work for this company
2. No, I don't have anything to gain by him selling a set of wheels
3. No, I'm not trying to convince you why you should pay 2k per rim

What I am trying to do Junior is eductate you, to help you understand. So why do I have only 16 posts....because I have a job where I travel for a living and work on average 16hr's a day. So why did I take the time out to post an essay about economics for a random web board? Because if you watch the news at all; this area of our lives is very important right now.

Too many people don't understand economics, and why a company charges $2,000 for a wheel, or $3 for a gallon of gasoline. Since this board is full of enthusiasts I figured I could use this question of "Why does a wheel cost so much for a Ferrari" and you would soak up the information like a sponge...and being smart people apply that to other parts of the world economy so you could also understand why even though Exxon is charging you $4/gal of gasoline and it used to be $1/gal just 6y ago, they aren't really raping you...they are just trying to survive.

The stance that companies rape their customers, and that people want something for nothing; food stamps, welfare, medicaid, WIC, medicare, etc etc... That's why the Country is going to crap right now...and THAT is why I am interested in this thread. Cause if you boil it down to it's essence, the vast majority of American's are ignorant like you and just don't know.

P.S. - If you are offended by being called ignorant then I rest my case cause the public education system didn't explain to you what it really means good enough.

FuszNissan

P.S.- you may want to spell educate correctly

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armensti

first of all you drive a crossfire and that tells a lot about you. second of all why are you still defending them? and third of all go join a crossfire forum and try to convince them to pay 2k per rim.

what your talking about has nothing to do with this thread so stop wasting time. no one in their right mind is going to spend that much money on rims. the companies are trying to survive so their charging 2k per wheel?

if a company is trying to survive they should make better quality products then their competitors for much less...NOT the other way around. that to me sounds like a get rich skim.

your calling me ignorant? well if someone thinks 2k per rim is to much and thats why his ignorant then YOU got a lot to learn junior.

maybe you should do some homework and compare their rims with their competitors and see if their actually worth 2k a piece

nogoodname

^^ lol!!

DannyGT

No, its actually a perfect blend of 60% adamantium (think wolverine) and 40% rapemium.

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need4speed

I haven't seen a rim that would make me want to mount on my "FUTURE" Z till right now.
6g's left to save b4 I have enough to pay in full. I. Might have to put 20k down n get these?

nogoodname

Did anyone actually PM them for a price quote???

nogoodname

^^

DannyGT

dyezak - while your principles of econ can be called accurate, they, in no way apply to this thread or these wheels. When HRE, which are considered the tops in this somewhat 'custom wheel' arena are charging ~1400-1650 for P90s in similar sizes don't tell me these guys have produced something better. Also, UNLESS it was pure custom, which they aren't even close, theb I can see a price that high. They are approaching the price range for mag wheels which is just stupid considering they can't compare.

Oh and the 'make a living' comment for the oil companies....they were BREAKING records and chargibg us record high prices...sorry I will not sympathize with those companies. Propaganda!

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Tius

tite rims. not so tite price. over 7k for a set of rims, on a car that on average costs about 35k? so i'm putting ~20% of the cars worth into wheels? hmmmm....

boredfast

so i guess the realization of 8k for wheels (30% of what the car is worth) scared of TS?

lol i am waiting for him to post his response.

OMGWTFBBQ

That works if you're talking about 95% of OEM wheels, but it's a different story for the 370z sport wheels. The sport wheels are made by the same company that makes Volk Racing wheels (Rays Engineering). They're also forged aluminum, which cannot be said for a LOT of OEM wheels. In fact, if you look at most of the other OEM wheels (for a Japanese brand car at least), the wheels are cast aluminum made by Enkei.

It'll be hard trying to find an aftermarket wheel that weighs less than the sport package wheels. But then again, the weight difference should be negligible since the wheel width, contact patch, and tire width are going to be increased, or else, why bother with new wheels right?

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