New Forgestars, wrong offsets?

asdfsammich · 04-21-2013, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webstdave

... Almost every reply in this thread contained something that didn't actually answer my questioned or said something completely the opposite of what I already said...

Lack of facts. No actual offsets. Makes it hard to help.

Not the forums fault. You're lucky people aren't giving you a hard time for not using the search feature to educate yourself on offsets/wheel fitment.

Or saying that you should have done that before buying.

Good luck to you.

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asdfsammich · 04-21-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by raymondo510

Hahaha dude I just realized your pic, how's that tactical bacon?

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webstdave · 04-21-2013, 08:21 PM

cgust, I am with you, you would think that it would be clearly marked, I have turned the boxes and wheels upside and inside out looking for an indication of the offset to no avail (I did my best to measure the offsets and I came up with +12 for both front and back which as I am sure you know is very aggressive, especially in the front, but I don't necessarily trust simply using a straight edge and a tape measure). When I talked to the vendor, they said that Forgestar does not provide the offsets they use for particular vehicles so that no one will copy them (doesn't make any sense to me). Hopefully I will be able to get their foot to the fire and get some answers tomorrow.

webstdave · 04-21-2013, 08:32 PM

asdfsammich, look, I came here because I know a lot of you guys are very experienced and thought that someone may have any idea whether or not the pictures I posted looked reasonable or not and clearly explained why I don't know the actual offsets (as much as I would like I cannot change a companies business practices). I spoke at length with my vendor before purchasing the wheels and he assured me that the right offsets would be delivered (I am no expert even after I read these forums about fitment so I gave him tons of info, my ride height, desired tire size, etc. and trusted that a wheel vendor would know better than I, which I don't think is unreasonable).

Furthermore, you cannot deny that not once did I say I was going to lower my car and responses to this post claimed that I had. I don't think it is unreasonable to be annoyed when people ignore what I say or claim that I said things that I didn't.

Once again, to the few who have given helpful advice, I very much appreciate it!

asdfsammich · 04-21-2013, 08:39 PM

You should be annoyed at yourself for not doing your homework.

I'm out.

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cgust · 04-21-2013, 08:57 PM

OP, I'd go with ckiesz's route. I have not seen my own wheels while the car is lifted so I am unable to compare with your photos.

webstdave · 04-21-2013, 09:19 PM

Thanks cgust I will try that for sure.

cooltoy · 04-21-2013, 10:10 PM

Those rims come in the following ranges. You should have probably told them what you wanted.

SEMI CONCAVE
19"

19x9.0 offsets from +20 to +55

SUPER DEEP CONCAVE
19"

19x10 -19 to +31

webstdave · 04-21-2013, 10:36 PM

Seriously? You just posted available offsets for Forgestar CF10s semi concave and deep concave when I clearly stated I bought F14s in semi concave and super deep concave. This is exactly what I am talking about when I say people don't read my posts. Either way, has anyone criticizing me considered that maybe Forgestar simply messed up rather than jump to the incorrect conclusion that I just blindly ordered offsets that I know to be wrong?

ckiesz · 04-21-2013, 11:25 PM

If you want to measure the backspacing of the wheels (hub mounting flange to very rear most lip of the wheel) and the overall width (should be 9.5-10" for a 9" rim and 10.5-11" for a 10" rim) it's pretty easy to figure the actual offset. Post it up or PM me if you'd like, happy to help.
Christian

cooltoy · 04-22-2013, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webstdave

Seriously? You just posted available offsets for Forgestar CF10s semi concave and deep concave when I clearly stated I bought F14s in semi concave and super deep concave. This is exactly what I am talking about when I say people don't read my posts. Either way, has anyone criticizing me considered that maybe Forgestar simply messed up rather than jump to the incorrect conclusion that I just blindly ordered offsets that I know to be wrong?

No I read your post right. Just copied the wrong information. Sorry for living.

You sure have a crappy attitude for someone looking for help.

jlo370z · 04-22-2013, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webstdave

has anyone criticizing me considered that maybe Forgestar simple messed up rather than jump to the incorrect conclusion that I just blindly ordered offsets that I know to be wrong?

so what offsets did you order?

webstdave · 04-22-2013, 07:54 AM

LOL, I am going to assume you are being sarcastic and not serious with that question. If you are being serious, please go back and read the rest of this thread.

ckiesz · 04-22-2013, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy

No I read your post right. Just copied the wrong information. Sorry for living.

You sure have a crappy attitude for someone looking for help.

I'm gonna assume you quoted the wrong post because: I am offering help, had a good attitude when I posted, and have absolutely no problem with you living

W.O.W. 370Z · 04-22-2013, 08:43 AM

I wouldnt buy the spacers you are interested in.

I think it will sit flush once mounted and sitting on the floor. I have a decent amount of experience with the Z and wheels.

Your attitude wont get much help here. Just my two cents.

Anyone use these spacers?

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04-21-2013, 10:10 PM	#23 (permalink)
cooltoy Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Calgary Posts: 13,938 Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT Rep Power: 240204	Those rims come in the following ranges. You should have probably told them what you wanted. SEMI CONCAVE 19" 19x9.0 offsets from +20 to +55 SUPER DEEP CONCAVE 19" 19x10 -19 to +31 Last edited by cooltoy; 04-22-2013 at 12:51 AM.

04-21-2013, 10:36 PM	#24 (permalink)
webstdave Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 14 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 12	Seriously? You just posted available offsets for Forgestar CF10s semi concave and deep concave when I clearly stated I bought F14s in semi concave and super deep concave. This is exactly what I am talking about when I say people don't read my posts. Either way, has anyone criticizing me considered that maybe Forgestar simply messed up rather than jump to the incorrect conclusion that I just blindly ordered offsets that I know to be wrong? Last edited by webstdave; 04-22-2013 at 07:55 AM.

04-21-2013, 11:25 PM	#25 (permalink)
ckiesz Base Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sacramento Posts: 8 Drives: G35rc Rep Power: 12	If you want to measure the backspacing of the wheels (hub mounting flange to very rear most lip of the wheel) and the overall width (should be 9.5-10" for a 9" rim and 10.5-11" for a 10" rim) it's pretty easy to figure the actual offset. Post it up or PM me if you'd like, happy to help. Christian Last edited by ckiesz; 04-21-2013 at 11:26 PM. Reason: Auto-corrected my name wrong

04-22-2013, 08:43 AM	#30 (permalink)
W.O.W. 370Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Miami Posts: 1,757 Drives: 2010 Touring Sport Z Rep Power: 19	I wouldnt buy the spacers you are interested in. I think it will sit flush once mounted and sitting on the floor. I have a decent amount of experience with the Z and wheels. Your attitude wont get much help here. Just my two cents. Anyone use these spacers? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2 raymondo510 likes this.

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04-21-2013, 08:21 PM	#18 (permalink)
webstdave Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 14 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 12	cgust, I am with you, you would think that it would be clearly marked, I have turned the boxes and wheels upside and inside out looking for an indication of the offset to no avail (I did my best to measure the offsets and I came up with +12 for both front and back which as I am sure you know is very aggressive, especially in the front, but I don't necessarily trust simply using a straight edge and a tape measure). When I talked to the vendor, they said that Forgestar does not provide the offsets they use for particular vehicles so that no one will copy them (doesn't make any sense to me). Hopefully I will be able to get their foot to the fire and get some answers tomorrow.

04-21-2013, 08:32 PM	#19 (permalink)
webstdave Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 14 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 12	asdfsammich, look, I came here because I know a lot of you guys are very experienced and thought that someone may have any idea whether or not the pictures I posted looked reasonable or not and clearly explained why I don't know the actual offsets (as much as I would like I cannot change a companies business practices). I spoke at length with my vendor before purchasing the wheels and he assured me that the right offsets would be delivered (I am no expert even after I read these forums about fitment so I gave him tons of info, my ride height, desired tire size, etc. and trusted that a wheel vendor would know better than I, which I don't think is unreasonable). Furthermore, you cannot deny that not once did I say I was going to lower my car and responses to this post claimed that I had. I don't think it is unreasonable to be annoyed when people ignore what I say or claim that I said things that I didn't. Once again, to the few who have given helpful advice, I very much appreciate it!

04-21-2013, 08:39 PM	#20 (permalink)
asdfsammich Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 456 Drives: 09 370Z SR MT Rep Power: 13	You should be annoyed at yourself for not doing your homework. I'm out. Tapatalk2 ...

04-21-2013, 08:57 PM	#21 (permalink)
cgust Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 66 Drives: 2011 370z Tour/Sport Rep Power: 12	OP, I'd go with ckiesz's route. I have not seen my own wheels while the car is lifted so I am unable to compare with your photos.

04-21-2013, 09:19 PM	#22 (permalink)
webstdave Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 14 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 12	Thanks cgust I will try that for sure.

04-22-2013, 07:54 AM	#28 (permalink)
webstdave Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 14 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 12	LOL, I am going to assume you are being sarcastic and not serious with that question. If you are being serious, please go back and read the rest of this thread.