18"x10" and 18"x10.5" Track Wheels Options?

chrischhorn · 03-14-2013, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by scruffydog

anyone know what the proper offset for front and rear i should have if I do decide to run with 18x10 square?

I would probably do +30(f) and +10(r) so it leaves you a little room for dips and hard corners and wider tires. If you want flush then +25(f) and +5(r) would probably get your wheels flush but could leave a possibility of tires rubbing fender depending on tire sizes.

scruffydog · 03-14-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn

I would probably do +30(f) and +10(r) so it leaves you a little room for dips and hard corners and wider tires. If you want flush then +25(f) and +5(r) would probably get your wheels flush but could leave a possibility of tires rubbing fender depending on tire sizes.

Thanks! I might end up 285 or 275...i'm still debating...Forgestar could get the me proper offset if I go with them, but it'll be a 18x10" instead of 18x10.5" and i won't be able to rotate.

chrischhorn · 03-14-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by scruffydog

Thanks! I might end up 285 or 275...i'm still debating...Forgestar could get the me proper offset if I go with them, but it'll be a 18x10" instead of 18x10.5" and i won't be able to rotate.

Why wouldn't you be able to rotate? do 18x10+30 square set up and then run a 20mm spacer in the rear to flush it up equally. Then you can still rotate and what not. That's what my future plans are. I might have to sell my WEDs as the offsets offered just won't work for a square setup......

scruffydog · 03-14-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn

Why wouldn't you be able to rotate? do 18x10+30 square set up and then run a 20mm spacer in the rear to flush it up equally. Then you can still rotate and what not. That's what my future plans are. I might have to sell my WEDs as the offsets offered just won't work for a square setup......

Oh I meant if I wanted to go without spacers, that's the only reason I would go down in width for the rim size aside from more brand/style selections; at 18x10 Forgestar I could get the proper offset I need without the risk of using spacers at the cost of no rotation.

What is your current setup for the Weds?

chrischhorn · 03-14-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scruffydog

Oh I meant if I wanted to go without spacers, that's the only reason I would go down in width for the rim size aside from more brand/style selections; at 18x10 Forgestar I could get the proper offset I need without the risk of using spacers at the cost of no rotation.

What is your current setup for the Weds?

Honestly, as long as the spacers are installed correctly and torqued down properly, I don't see an issue.

My current set up is 18X9.5 + 25 up front and 18x10.5 +7 in the rear. Not sure how I feel about running a square setup on 18X9.5's. For these specific wheels they come in a +35 offset which means I'd need a 25mm or 30mm spacer to flush up the rears. I'm already running a 10 on front and a 5 on the rear.

Mike · 03-14-2013, 05:39 PM

my 18x10s are +34, my 18x9.5s are +46 Both work fine with 275s, but the 9.5s need a 5mm spacer to clear the front control arms when running 295s

scruffydog · 03-15-2013, 02:03 PM

Thanks a lot for the useful info. I am right now shopping for Spacers and I think I am able to find a configuration where I could use my stock lug nuts with my Sports Rays and Open Lug Nuts with my track wheels after changing out all of my studs to extended ARP ones.

For Street
Front:
19x9 ET 47 - Rays Sports
20mm Hub Centric Spacers - TBD Brand
ARP Extended Studs (+25mm Length to OEM; 75mm)
OEM Closed Lug Nuts w/ Lock
Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 245/40 (Later I might go w/more durable)

Rear:
19x10 ET 30 - Rays Sports
25mm Hub Centric Spacers - TBD Brand
ARP Extended Studs (+25mm Length to OEM; 75mm)
OEM Closed Lug Nuts w/ Lock
Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 285/35 (Later I might go w/more durable)

For Track
Front:
18x10.5 ET 38 - Enkei PF01 Matte Black?
10mm Hub Centric Spacers - TBD Brand
ARP Extended Studs (+25mm Length to OEM; 75mm)
Open Lug Nuts - Extended length Project Kics? Recommendations?
Hankook Ventus R-S3 285/35 (Also check out new Dunlop)

Rear:
18x10.5 ET 38 - Enkei PF01 Matte Black?
20mm Hub Centric Spacers - TBD Brand
ARP Extended Studs (+25mm Length to OEM; 75mm)
Open Lug Nuts - Extended length Project Kics? Recommendations?
Hankook Ventus R-S3 285/35 (Also check out new Dunlop)

Summary:
I have to buy:
Wheels
-Enkei's PF01 18x10.5 ET38 (Qty: 4)
Tires
-Hankook Ventus R-S3 285/35 (Qty: 4)
Studs
-ARP Extended Studs (Qty: 20)
Spacers
Z1 Aluminum (Super Cheap), H&R, or Eibach?
H&R comes w/ DRS extended studs, are they comparable to ARP?
-10mm Hub Centric Spacer (Qty: 1)
-20mm Hub Centric Spacer (Qty: 2)
-25mm Hub Centric Spacer (Qty: 1)
Lug Nuts
Project Kics? Extended ones? I don't know which brand are track worthy
-Open Lug Nuts (Qty: 20)

martin82 · 03-15-2013, 03:38 PM

The H&R comes with extended lug studs but they don't have the taper like ARP does. I'll show u pics later.

I Run Project kics, u should get long ones makes it easier to thread on...

chrischhorn · 03-15-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by martin82

The H&R comes with extended lug studs but they don't have the taper like ARP does. I'll show u pics later.

I Run Project kics, u should get long ones makes it easier to thread on...

I'm running Blox aluminum open ended extended lugs. They are fairly light, aluminum, and price was good for an interesting color. As for studs, I'm running the ones that came with my H&R kit and they've been doing fine. no complaints. They've only endured 2 autox sessions so far but with my aggressive driving habits, daily driving may be rougher then autocross lol. no issues with them either way.

cossie1600 · 03-21-2013, 01:23 AM

I have been searching, but 18x10 in 30mm seems to be very hard to find? Is it possible to run 18x10 with a 25 or 35mm offset in the front on a 295 tire?

OP, I found a cheap option on a new wheel. I don't have the weight on it yet, but I am leaning toward this as it is <$750 shipped to my house

TSW Max custom rims

TSW Max 18x9.5 40mm offset in front, 18x10 20mm in the back.

If they are less than 22lbs and can clear the calipers, I am in for a set i think.

I know the Konig Milligram is also available at about $850 for the set in 18x9.5 and 18x10 combo. I know they are pretty light and I am pretty sure they clear the brakes

Mike · 03-21-2013, 07:23 AM

the 35 should work.

cossie1600 · 03-21-2013, 08:19 AM

even on a 18x10? I tried the 18x9.5 with 35 offset it already looks already far out

Mike · 03-21-2013, 10:32 AM

I run 18x10 +34 with no issues

cossie1600 · 03-21-2013, 11:45 AM

Thx

scruffydog · 03-21-2013, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I have been searching, but 18x10 in 30mm seems to be very hard to find? Is it possible to run 18x10 with a 25 or 35mm offset in the front on a 295 tire?

OP, I found a cheap option on a new wheel. I don't have the weight on it yet, but I am leaning toward this as it is <$750 shipped to my house

TSW Max custom rims

TSW Max 18x9.5 40mm offset in front, 18x10 20mm in the back.

If they are less than 22lbs and can clear the calipers, I am in for a set i think.

I know the Konig Milligram is also available at about $850 for the set in 18x9.5 and 18x10 combo. I know they are pretty light and I am pretty sure they clear the brakes

Thanks Cossie. It looks like I will have to hold off on pulling the trigger in getting my next set of wheels due to an upcoming wedding. I'll keep you guys updated. Hopefully I can get my set of wheels after honeymoon! I have started collecting the small pieces like ARP studs, spacers for street/possibly for the next track set. And then I'll get the lug nuts, man it's adding up quick.

By the way, anyone know if the ARP studs work with OEM Lug nuts if I use 20mm spacers for front & rear? I wonder if they'll bottom out. The ARP studs claim to be 25mm longer than stock OEM studs, but I'm adding a spacer that's 5mm less than the extension. Furthermore, the ARP studs have that tip which I'm not sure is accounted for in the additional length to the OEM studs length.

03-14-2013, 05:39 PM	#81 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	my 18x10s are +34, my 18x9.5s are +46 Both work fine with 275s, but the 9.5s need a 5mm spacer to clear the front control arms when running 295s scruffydog likes this. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

03-15-2013, 02:03 PM	#82 (permalink)
scruffydog A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,113 Drives: with his eyes close Rep Power: 717	Thanks a lot for the useful info. I am right now shopping for Spacers and I think I am able to find a configuration where I could use my stock lug nuts with my Sports Rays and Open Lug Nuts with my track wheels after changing out all of my studs to extended ARP ones. For Street Front: 19x9 ET 47 - Rays Sports 20mm Hub Centric Spacers - TBD Brand ARP Extended Studs (+25mm Length to OEM; 75mm) OEM Closed Lug Nuts w/ Lock Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 245/40 (Later I might go w/more durable) Rear: 19x10 ET 30 - Rays Sports 25mm Hub Centric Spacers - TBD Brand ARP Extended Studs (+25mm Length to OEM; 75mm) OEM Closed Lug Nuts w/ Lock Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 285/35 (Later I might go w/more durable) For Track Front: 18x10.5 ET 38 - Enkei PF01 Matte Black? 10mm Hub Centric Spacers - TBD Brand ARP Extended Studs (+25mm Length to OEM; 75mm) Open Lug Nuts - Extended length Project Kics? Recommendations? Hankook Ventus R-S3 285/35 (Also check out new Dunlop) Rear: 18x10.5 ET 38 - Enkei PF01 Matte Black? 20mm Hub Centric Spacers - TBD Brand ARP Extended Studs (+25mm Length to OEM; 75mm) Open Lug Nuts - Extended length Project Kics? Recommendations? Hankook Ventus R-S3 285/35 (Also check out new Dunlop) Summary: I have to buy: Wheels -Enkei's PF01 18x10.5 ET38 (Qty: 4) Tires -Hankook Ventus R-S3 285/35 (Qty: 4) Studs -ARP Extended Studs (Qty: 20) Spacers Z1 Aluminum (Super Cheap), H&R, or Eibach? H&R comes w/ DRS extended studs, are they comparable to ARP? -10mm Hub Centric Spacer (Qty: 1) -20mm Hub Centric Spacer (Qty: 2) -25mm Hub Centric Spacer (Qty: 1) Lug Nuts Project Kics? Extended ones? I don't know which brand are track worthy -Open Lug Nuts (Qty: 20) __________________ Magnetic Black 2010 370z Scruffydog's Journal

03-15-2013, 03:38 PM	#83 (permalink)
martin82 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: los angeles Posts: 2,636 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 19	The H&R comes with extended lug studs but they don't have the taper like ARP does. I'll show u pics later. I Run Project kics, u should get long ones makes it easier to thread on... scruffydog likes this.

03-21-2013, 01:23 AM	#85 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	I have been searching, but 18x10 in 30mm seems to be very hard to find? Is it possible to run 18x10 with a 25 or 35mm offset in the front on a 295 tire? OP, I found a cheap option on a new wheel. I don't have the weight on it yet, but I am leaning toward this as it is <$750 shipped to my house TSW Max custom rims TSW Max 18x9.5 40mm offset in front, 18x10 20mm in the back. If they are less than 22lbs and can clear the calipers, I am in for a set i think. I know the Konig Milligram is also available at about $850 for the set in 18x9.5 and 18x10 combo. I know they are pretty light and I am pretty sure they clear the brakes scruffydog likes this.

03-21-2013, 07:23 AM	#86 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	the 35 should work. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

03-21-2013, 08:19 AM	#87 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	even on a 18x10? I tried the 18x9.5 with 35 offset it already looks already far out

03-21-2013, 10:32 AM	#88 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	I run 18x10 +34 with no issues __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

03-21-2013, 11:45 AM	#89 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	Thx

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