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FairladyZ10PG 04-10-2015 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 3164593)
325/30/19:tup:

Now you just need some white lettering on those tires & you too can be rauh welt status :icon17:

Luciano13 04-10-2015 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ10PG (Post 3165692)
Now you just need some white lettering on those tires & you too can be rauh welt status :icon17:

Not sure if I'll be whiting the tires up lol... Well leave that to the European cars lol

Zipper1 05-17-2015 08:25 PM

About to throw on 275's up front and 325's in the rear on stock Nismo wheels with either an Eiback prokit drop or Swifts. i'll decide after the tires are on there. most likely Swifts. Hoping it comes together nicely.
Pics to come/

VinceThe1 05-18-2015 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Zipper1 (Post 3200650)
About to throw on 275's up front and 325's in the rear on stock Nismo wheels with either an Eiback prokit drop or Swifts. i'll decide after the tires are on there. most likely Swifts. Hoping it comes together nicely.
Pics to come/

Why not just move the rear 285s upfront? Saves money and 285/35R19s are perfect in outside diameter. :tup:

Zbrah 05-18-2015 03:53 AM

Looking forward to see how it turns out!

Zipper1 05-18-2015 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by VinceThe1 (Post 3200836)
Why not just move the rear 285s upfront? Saves money and 285/35R19s are perfect in outside diameter. :tup:

I would do as suggested, im just not sure i could lower the car with that size up front. I have yet to see this done
with a drop. Anyone?

RBfastback 05-18-2015 09:46 AM

370z MEATY TIRE THREAD
 
I may be looking too far into this but maybe someone can enlighten me.
For rear Nismo wheels changing the stock 285/35/19 over to a 305 everyone says to go with 305/30/19 but that doesn't make sense if ur doing it for traction because u may gain about .79 inch wider but your loosing overall diameter -2.04 inch or -2.4% circum. so it's a wash from what I gained going wider.
but 305/35/19 u gain .79 wide and gain 1.73 inch or 2.1% circum. and that's less of a difference or change then oem size so your speedo would technically be more accurate with the 305/35/19 even tho it's a small difference but that means slightly more meat.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...131996b4e4.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...94e4a65a29.jpg

all the percentages are less of a change for 35 series tires

FPenvy 05-18-2015 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RBfastback (Post 3201085)
I may be looking too far into this but maybe someone can enlighten me.
For rear Nismo wheels changing the stock 285/35/19 over to a 305 everyone says to go with 305/30/19 but that doesn't make sense if ur doing it for traction because u may gain about .79 inch wider but your loosing overall diameter -2.04 inch or -2.4% circum. so it's a wash from what I gained going wider.
but 305/35/19 u gain .79 wide and gain 1.73 inch or 2.1% circum. and that's less of a difference or change then oem size so your speedo would technically be more accurate with the 305/35/19 even tho it's a small difference but that means slightly more meat.
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all the percentages are less of a change for 35 series tires

go look up 305/35/19 on tirerack and tell me what you find.

:bowrofl:

RBfastback 05-18-2015 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fpenvy (Post 3201092)
go look up 305/35/19 on tirerack and tell me what you find.



:bowrofl:


damn...

FPenvy 05-18-2015 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RBfastback (Post 3201095)
damn...

make sense why everyone is running 305/30? lol

if diameter measurements are your concerns then run 265/305 the diameters are identical 26.3 in RE-11's.

RBfastback 05-18-2015 10:40 AM

370z MEATY TIRE THREAD
 
diameters aren't really my goal, it's for now while I have stock wheels I'm looking for the most traction possible for the rear for when I f.i. my z.
idk where I was reading it about going from 285/35/19 to 305/30/19 isn't as much grip (in a strait line) as u think because of the loss of circumference. obviously when cornering it's better.
only options I can find on the calculator are 295/35 but that's such a minuscule difference and there more expensive or 325/30 and those look like they would be amazing but I don't think it will work in the 10.5 rear nismo wheels...
any thoughts aside from new wheels cuz that won't be for awhile.

I plan on using PSS tires

FPenvy 05-18-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RBfastback (Post 3201154)
diameters aren't really my goal, it's for now while I have stock wheels I'm looking for the most traction possible for the rear for when I f.i. my z.
idk where I was reading it about going from 285/35/19 to 305/30/19 isn't as much grip (in a strait line) as u think because of the loss of circumference. obviously when cornering it's better.
only options I can find on the calculator are 295/35 but that's such a minuscule difference and there more expensive or 325/30 and those look like they would be amazing but I don't think it will work in the 10.5 rear nismo wheels...
any thoughts aside from new wheels cuz that won't be for awhile.

I plan on using PSS tires

pretty sure 315s work on nismo wheels. maybe 325 at most. someone else can confirm that.

305s fit damn good on my oem sport wheels.

came in handy this past weekend at zdayz when running the dragon and all the nonsense roads down there lol

RBfastback 05-18-2015 11:32 AM

can only get 315 in drag tires.

Tire rack shows the 305/30/19 Super Sport tires to be 12.1" wide (307mm) and 26.3" tall.

It shows the 295/35/19 Super Sport tires to be 11.9" wide (302mm) and 27.1" tall.

width is almost the same but wouldn't there be more acceleration traction with the 295 because of the taller sidewall and only a 5mm difference in width?

FPenvy 05-18-2015 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RBfastback (Post 3201224)
can only get 315 in drag tires.

Tire rack shows the 305/30/19 Super Sport tires to be 12.1" wide (307mm) and 26.3" tall.

It shows the 295/35/19 Super Sport tires to be 11.9" wide (302mm) and 27.1" tall.

width is almost the same but wouldn't there be more acceleration traction with the 295 because of the taller sidewall and only a 5mm difference in width?

in theory im sure but i'd say find some test results lol

but at that point it's splitting hairs. i'm also a fan of RE-11's over PSS's anymore after I realized how much stiffer the sidewall on the re-11s are.

VinceThe1 05-18-2015 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RBfastback (Post 3201085)
I may be looking too far into this but maybe someone can enlighten me.
For rear Nismo wheels changing the stock 285/35/19 over to a 305 everyone says to go with 305/30/19 but that doesn't make sense if ur doing it for traction because u may gain about .79 inch wider but your loosing overall diameter -2.04 inch or -2.4% circum. so it's a wash from what I gained going wider.
but 305/35/19 u gain .79 wide and gain 1.73 inch or 2.1% circum. and that's less of a difference or change then oem size so your speedo would technically be more accurate with the 305/35/19 even tho it's a small difference but that means slightly more meat.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...131996b4e4.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...94e4a65a29.jpg

all the percentages are less of a change for 35 series tires

That's why you get 325/30R19s...much much closer to the overall diameter of the factory 285.

VinceThe1 05-18-2015 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Zipper1 (Post 3201040)
I would do as suggested, im just not sure i could lower the car with that size up front. I have yet to see this done
with a drop. Anyone?

I have so much clearance with 285s upfront and stock Nismo wheels and stock ride height, that I'm about to install 10mm spacers upfront to make my tires flush with the fenders. The more you lower, the further in they're gonna go, so accordong to that, 285s upfront should have no issues whatsoever with lowering...infact you'll need 10-15mm spacers to make them look flush.

VinceThe1 05-18-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RBfastback (Post 3201154)
diameters aren't really my goal, it's for now while I have stock wheels I'm looking for the most traction possible for the rear for when I f.i. my z.
idk where I was reading it about going from 285/35/19 to 305/30/19 isn't as much grip (in a strait line) as u think because of the loss of circumference. obviously when cornering it's better.
only options I can find on the calculator are 295/35 but that's such a minuscule difference and there more expensive or 325/30 and those look like they would be amazing but I don't think it will work in the 10.5 rear nismo wheels...
any thoughts aside from new wheels cuz that won't be for awhile.

I plan on using PSS tires

Oh 325/30R19s fit just fine on stock Nismo 10.5" wheels :)

Check out my thread on that exact subject:

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...5-30r19-r.html

RBfastback 05-18-2015 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VinceThe1 (Post 3201260)
Oh 325/30R19s fit just fine on stock Nismo 10.5" wheels :)



Check out my thread on that exact subject:



http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...5-30r19-r.html


nice man, won't work for me tho I'm lowered and I have 15mm spacers

RBfastback 05-18-2015 12:24 PM

370z MEATY TIRE THREAD
 
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3201239)
in theory im sure but i'd say find some test results lol



but at that point it's splitting hairs. i'm also a fan of RE-11's over PSS's anymore after I realized how much stiffer the sidewall on the re-11s are.


yeah I know, I'm always splitting hair's on my hobbies lol.

but for me the pss is a better choice right now because it's my dd and more of a well rounded tire also better in rain. I live in sw fl so rain is almost an every day thing in summer.
once it's not a dd I may switch to the re-11s they look like a much better track tire

FPenvy 05-18-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RBfastback (Post 3201315)
yeah I know, I'm always splitting hair's on my hobbies lol.

but for me the pss is a better choice right now because it's my dd and more of a well rounded tire also better in rain. I live in sw fl so rain is almost an every day thing in summer.
once it's not a dd I may switch to the re-11s they look like a much better track tire

I DD on RE-11 and they are better in rain under regular driving I've found personally. and although Florida gets a good bit of rain I think last years stats PA had more lol my finace is from FL and bitches above the rain here. that's when you know it's bad.

also in these sizes 265/305 they have worn much better than 245/275 PSS which the inside 3" disintegrated on me at 12k miles.

I had about 14k on my re-11's I just took off and the rears were still above the wear bar a bit and the fronts were still at 7.5/32nds and they come new at 9/32.

ocd though and I changed all 4 for the dragon lol

Luciano13 05-18-2015 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zipper1 (Post 3201040)
I would do as suggested, im just not sure i could lower the car with that size up front. I have yet to see this done
with a drop. Anyone?

I have 285/35/19x10 in the front lowered.. Its a bit too close for my liking to be honest. I'll be most likely switching to 275/35/19

For 9.5" wheel, I'd go with FPenvy with 265/35/19. That will be a nice fit on a lowered Z

RBfastback 05-18-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3201326)
I DD on RE-11 and they are better in rain under regular driving I've found personally. and although Florida gets a good bit of rain I think last years stats PA had more lol my finace is from FL and bitches above the rain here. that's when you know it's bad.



also in these sizes 265/305 they have worn much better than 245/275 PSS which the inside 3" disintegrated on me at 12k miles.



I had about 14k on my re-11's I just took off and the rears were still above the wear bar a bit and the fronts were still at 7.5/32nds and they come new at 9/32.



ocd though and I changed all 4 for the dragon lol


ok so I've decided since I'm curious and the math seems right I'm going to try the 295/35/19.
I know there's no test I can to to confirm except my own perception an math but what the heck why not..rear tires only last a year to me anyway so I'm gonna give them a try.

FPenvy 05-18-2015 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RBfastback (Post 3201418)
ok so I've decided since I'm curious and the math seems right I'm going to try the 295/35/19.
I know there's no test I can to to confirm except my own perception an math but what the heck why not..rear tires only last a year to me anyway so I'm gonna give them a try.

exactly my thinking as well.

I drive march/april-oct weather permitting and I rip through rears so testing things out don't bother me much.

im ean on a whim with a little asking around I jumped to 265/305 on sport wheels lol

ZoroItaliano 05-21-2015 12:08 AM

guys ...whats the widest tire choice i can go on oem 19"without any issues
??? i have 20" spacers in rear

VinceThe1 05-21-2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ZoroItaliano (Post 3204569)
guys ...whats the widest tire choice i can go on oem 19"without any issues
??? i have 20" spacers in rear

OEM Sport Rays or OEM Nismo Rays?

20" Spacers in the rear? :eek:

Jk, I know you meant 20mm :icon17:

ZoroItaliano 05-21-2015 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VinceThe1 (Post 3205085)
OEM Sport Rays or OEM Nismo Rays?



20" Spacers in the rear? :eek:



Jk, I know you meant 20mm :icon17:


Oem sport 19's. And my bad 20mm in rear.


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jchammond 05-23-2015 07:32 AM

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...a9c5735a83.jpg gonna get some meats one day to fill out. 18x8F & 18x9R 245/45 & 275/40.....would love to go 345/30/19R & 295/35F...my wheel offset would have to be near perfect!


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jchammond 05-23-2015 07:32 AM

Wow- first pic


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jchammond 05-23-2015 07:49 AM

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...73d499d9d3.jpg had to put a little better picture up


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jchammond 05-23-2015 08:26 AM

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...0db1e7a258.jpg I only have 275/40/18's on rear now.. Plenty of room for more.


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1LIFE 05-23-2015 05:25 PM

Can any one tell me what offset is needed to fit 345/30/19 nicely??? Input in this area would be greatly appreciated by me :tup:

jchammond 05-23-2015 06:56 PM

pending on your rear camber setting & ride height,,,,i've heard from +28 up to +38 on a 12" wheel....A few people are running these on rear & that's what i want with nothing sticking out past fender(flush)

VinceThe1 05-23-2015 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LIFE (Post 3207383)
Can any one tell me what offset is needed to fit 345/30/19 nicely??? Input in this area would be greatly appreciated by me :tup:

Ok, so original Nismo rear wheel offset is 23mm. With 325s, my tires are flush with the fender (no spacers). A 345 is 20mm wider than a 325, so that means it would stick out an extra 10mm on each side.

Taking all that into equation, the ideal offset sould be between 30-35mm.

So, a 19x12 +30 with a 345 would be a pretty flush fitment.

I would suggest going with 20s however. A 345/25R20 is within 0.2% overall diameter of the original 285/35R19s. The 345/30R19 is 1.1% larger which is no big deal, but with these sizes, my opinion is that 20s would look better.

VinceThe1 05-23-2015 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3207435)
pending on your rear camber setting & ride height,,,,i've heard from +28 up to +38 on a 12" wheel....A few people are running these on rear & that's what i want with nothing sticking out past fender(flush)

Yes, exactly. Depends on ride height and alignment. My previous post was for stock ride height and alignment.

1LIFE 05-23-2015 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VinceThe1 (Post 3207439)
Ok, so original Nismo rear wheel offset is 23mm. With 325s, my tires are flush with the fender (no spacers). A 345 is 20mm wider than a 325, so that means it would stick out an extra 10mm on each side.

Taking all that into equation, the ideal offset sould be between 30-35mm.

So, a 19x12 +30 with a 345 would be a pretty flush fitment.

I would suggest going with 20s however. A 345/25R20 is within 0.2% overall diameter of the original 285/35R19s. The 345/30R19 is 1.1% larger which is no big deal, but with these sizes, my opinion is that 20s would look better.

Thanks brother!! That helps a lot really appreciate it.. I also need to take into consideration my rear alignment specs they are as follows -2.14 camber .10 toe
With that in mind would 19 12 +35 be the right fitment?

1LIFE 05-23-2015 07:49 PM

Forgot to mention I'm on Swifts so not that low

jchammond 05-23-2015 08:00 PM

I like the 19's over the 20's because of our wonderful highways we have here ( full of potholes) also wanted to run a set of Michelin PSS & the 345/25/20 is either Pirelli or toyo...325/30/19's are 26.7" diameter (stock diameter for mine) those would be good on an eleven " wheel.... The 345's would fill the fender well more... One small thing holding me back now...$$$

RBfastback 05-23-2015 08:00 PM

get ur oem nismo wheel widened 1.5".
I found a reputable place near me to do it so I'll be able to fit 345/30/19

jchammond 05-23-2015 08:15 PM

That may work for some; I have a base w/18" wheels,,, so I gotta grow up.. 18x9 rear w/275/40's +15 offset with 2.5-3" clearance inward & up to 1" out...(2.5 in & .5 out) would be good for me. Maybe I should just look for some factory Nismo wheels. 19x10.5 & put a 325 on that.

FireDan50 05-23-2015 08:20 PM

Here's my new meaty addition:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d...522_195238.jpg

Volk TE37 SL pressed double black
18 x 10 +30 275/40/18 NT555
18 x 11 +18 305/35/18 NT05R


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