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Pothole + Varrstoen BBS Replica = Massive Fail

Originally Posted by Liquid_G What knowledge do you have? I see a wheel that failed ridiculously after hitting a pothole.. THAT is not normal, and doesn't happen with quality wheels.

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Old 06-29-2011, 10:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What knowledge do you have? I see a wheel that failed ridiculously after hitting a pothole.. THAT is not normal, and doesn't happen with quality wheels.

but please, share more Knowledge with us.
I've worked in the wheel industry for 5+ years. I've worked closely with various wheel manufactures over the years and have a lot of knowledge regarding manufacturing, R&D, sales/marketing of wheels, etc.. I have no ties to Varrstoen wheels but you can't judge a wheels quality based on one picture floating around the internet..

You, like many others, assume a wheel holding together in one piece after a given impact equates to it's quality. This is true but only to a certain extent.. If I posted pictures of Advan Wheels, Work Wheels, Enkei Wheels, etc.. with the spokes separated from the barrel would you say they are an inferior wheel?
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I've worked in the wheel industry for 5+ years. I've worked closely with various wheel manufactures over the years and have a lot of knowledge regarding manufacturing, R&D, sales/marketing of wheels, etc.. I have no ties to Varrstoen wheels but you can't judge a wheels quality based on one picture floating around the internet..

You, like many others, assume a wheel holding together in one piece after a given impact equates to it's quality. This is true but only to a certain extent.. If I posted pictures of Advan Wheels, Work Wheels, Enkei Wheels, etc.. with the spokes separated from the barrel would you say they are an inferior wheel?
Dan this wheel is garbage, you and I both know it.

The original BBS design was never meant to be a one-piece cast wheel and now looked what happens. I would bet as people start using these wheels the problems will start showing up more often.

Sevas wheels were cool too for awhile and eventually as more people started buying them all the issues started and eventually they were put out of business.
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Dan this wheel is garbage, you and I both know it.

The original BBS design was never meant to be a one-piece cast wheel and now looked what happens. I would bet as people start using these wheels the problems will start showing up more often.

Sevas wheels were cool too for awhile and eventually as more people started buying them all the issues started and eventually they were put out of business.
As I mentioned before, I don't know.. The wheels could be perfectly safe to run or they could be inferior pieces of garbage What I'm trying to get at is that you can't tell a wheels quality based on one picture floating around the internet.. Don't take my posts as defending Varrstoen Wheels either, I'm just trying to be a mediator so we can actually get to the truth.

btw, the wheel I was running on my M3 when I struck a pothole (what I mentioned a few posts up) was a one piece cast aluminum "BBS LM" replica (albeit a different brand/manufacture). Just because a wheel has a similar look, doesn't mean the wheel is 100% identical. The manufacture I am referring to puts the wheels through proper R&D and various strength tests. There are various ways to improve on the strength, it could be as simple as adding more material to the spokes. I won't bore everyone with the details though
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As I mentioned before, I don't know.. The wheels could be perfectly safe to run or they could be inferior pieces of garbage What I'm trying to get at is that you can't tell a wheels quality based on one picture floating around the internet.. Don't take my posts as defending Varrstoen Wheels either, I'm just trying to be a mediator so we can actually get to the truth.

btw, the wheel I was running on my M3 when I struck a pothole (what I mentioned a few posts up) was a one piece cast aluminum "BBS LM" replica (albeit a different brand/manufacture). Just because a wheel has a similar look, doesn't mean the wheel is 100% identical. The manufacture I am referring to puts the wheels through proper R&D and various strength tests. There are various ways to improve on the strength, it could be as simple as adding more material to the spokes. I won't bore everyone with the details though
Fair enough, I guess I'm just more skeptical than you.

I see ALMS, Rolex Touring, Porsche Cup and FIA GT3 cars all running BBS's. I have yet to see someone put the Varrstoens through any type of serious racing.
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