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nismodreamr 06-01-2011 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fern to the Z (Post 1145046)
LOL a caddy huh? when i speak of "ride quality" I'm talking about affecting performance, like handling, increase fishtailing on curves, MPG's etc.. not road noise or anything associated with "comfort" which one would usually think of when talking about a caddy... Anyway look forward to reading your thread :-)

ahhh I understand, I doubt this large of a stagger is really the ideal set up for track usage or performance driving in general, the goals for this car for me are strictly visual with the option to go autocross on the weekend every once in a while.

wifedrivenZ 06-11-2011 01:09 PM

My problem is that the stock tires do not provide enough grip at the drag strip. would upgrading my tires and going with a 305 give me enough traction to launch and not spin the whole time. I only drive the car on the weekend and only if the weather is nice so I don't care about traction during wet or ice. With the SC anything over 5k RPM's the car is getting lose in the first 3 gears

m4a1mustang 06-11-2011 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wifedrivenZ (Post 1163865)
My problem is that the stock tires do not provide enough grip at the drag strip. would upgrading my tires and going with a 305 give me enough traction to launch and not spin the whole time. I only drive the car on the weekend and only if the weather is nice so I don't care about traction during wet or ice. With the SC anything over 5k RPM's the car is getting lose in the first 3 gears

It would help, but a low profile street tire really isn't ideal for the drag strip. If you want grip at the strip I would suggest looking for the smallest wheel diameter you can fit over the rear brakes and a set of drag radials or ET Street slicks.

Unfortunately in the quest for ultimate straight line traction you give up a lot in terms of lateral grip, so its best to have a separate drag and street setup.

Juruki 07-06-2011 12:52 AM

I need new tires asap
So for Sport Pack wheels 255/35 front n 275/35 rear would be the best setup?

XwChriswX 07-06-2011 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fern to the Z (Post 1144999)
Nice,
just out of curiosity how does it ride, I heard 255/305 is too big of a stagger, they recommended I got 265/285 at a local tire shop. How does it drive with that tire set up?

I ordered a set of SS' and they should be here tomorrow. 255/295. I wanted 265 in the front, but they do not make them, and I wanted 295 in the rear since I wanted them to fill the wheels a bit more. If in the end it's too much, I'll go back to 285.

christian370z 07-06-2011 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1205282)
I ordered a set of SS' and they should be here tomorrow. 255/295. I wanted 265 in the front, but they do not make them, and I wanted 295 in the rear since I wanted them to fill the wheels a bit more. If in the end it's too much, I'll go back to 285.

If that tire size setup isn't ideal, you can probably offset it by adjusting your coilovers which is good.

XwChriswX 07-06-2011 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1205297)
If that tire size setup isn't ideal, you can probably offset it by adjusting your coilovers which is good.

A shop will have to do that as it is above my head on the dynamics of oversteer/understeer lol

christian370z 07-06-2011 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1205312)
A shop will have to do that as it is above my head on the dynamics of oversteer/understeer lol

Just twist some dials and hope for the best, nothing can go wrong... :icon23:

XwChriswX 07-06-2011 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1205316)
Just twist some dials and hope for the best, nothing can go wrong... :icon23:

LoL If only it were that easy haha. :icon17:

Fern to the Z 08-04-2011 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1205282)
I ordered a set of SS' and they should be here tomorrow. 255/295. I wanted 265 in the front, but they do not make them, and I wanted 295 in the rear since I wanted them to fill the wheels a bit more. If in the end it's too much, I'll go back to 285.

chris
looking at getting the PSS for my Volks, I was thinking of going 265/35/19 front. 285/35/19 rear... but if they dont make the the 265 I guess I can stick to 255... but my question is should I stay at 285 or go 295 for the rear. Did you end up getting the 255/295 set up?how does it drive? not too big of a stagger to cause understeer?

Vapiano 08-04-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1205282)
I ordered a set of SS' and they should be here tomorrow. 255/295. I wanted 265 in the front, but they do not make them, and I wanted 295 in the rear since I wanted them to fill the wheels a bit more. If in the end it's too much, I'll go back to 285.

Subscribed - interested in see pics of the 295s.

V.

onzedge 08-04-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vapiano (Post 1244613)
Subscribed - interested in see pics of the 295s.

V.

Me too. :tup:

DIGItonium 02-15-2012 12:01 PM

Any of you guys switched between the PSS and Hankook V12 tires? I barely got 8k with the rear tires after getting turbos (lots of spinning and wheel hopping on cold days haha). The insides are close to getting bald, but it doesn't seem like these tires had much tread to begin with. The front tires have at least 75% tread left.

I'm just wondering if it's worth it to spend a bit more on the PSS over the Hankook if these tires will last a bit longer, or stick to Hankooks because they're easily disposable for the money.

kenchan 02-15-2012 12:43 PM

Digi- not very scientific but the conti DW's have a 340AA vs 300AA PSS.... so might be worth a look. :D

i would not sacrifice grip just for wear. it's kinda normal for me to replace the rear tires 2x as fast as the fronts.

m4a1mustang 02-15-2012 12:45 PM

If you are on a budget I'd get Conti DW over V12s any day of the week.

Philipp 02-15-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1545271)
Any of you guys switched between the PSS and Hankook V12 tires? I barely got 8k with the rear tires after getting turbos (lots of spinning and wheel hopping on cold days haha). The insides are close to getting bald, but it doesn't seem like these tires had much tread to begin with. The front tires have at least 75% tread left.

I'm just wondering if it's worth it to spend a bit more on the PSS over the Hankook if these tires will last a bit longer, or stick to Hankooks because they're easily disposable for the money.

I went from the V12 to the PSS. The V12 were getting too greasy after a couple of track laps... The SS are very constant throughout the heat cycles. Since you have a stage II and 75% left on the fronts, i would buy another V12 rear set and burned them till they drop.. The SS should improve your acceleration times (less tire spin). Threadware could be an issue on the SS...

XwChriswX 02-15-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1545271)
Any of you guys switched between the PSS and Hankook V12 tires? I barely got 8k with the rear tires after getting turbos (lots of spinning and wheel hopping on cold days haha). The insides are close to getting bald, but it doesn't seem like these tires had much tread to begin with. The front tires have at least 75% tread left.

I'm just wondering if it's worth it to spend a bit more on the PSS over the Hankook if these tires will last a bit longer, or stick to Hankooks because they're easily disposable for the money.

I actually had quite the similar problem! :icon17:

Got a set of PSS' the rears only gave me 8k but the fronts are still at 8 and 7/32nds So I had a set of V12's put on the rear for treadlife. But it's annoyingly loose even on spirited road driving. Not even from a standing start. I knew the V12's weren't the best for cornering, but I was trying to cut costs. I won't get another set of V12's again. It will either be DW's until the fronts wear out, then a full set of PSS' again. Or a full set of DW's if they do better than the V12's.

m4a1mustang 02-15-2012 05:27 PM

PSS front and V12 rear are just a terrible match. You shouldn't run mis-matched sets anyways, and those tires are just so different it's going to lead to terrible handling.

cossie1600 02-15-2012 06:44 PM

How come everyone wears the rear first. My fronts are wearing about 20% faster

m4a1mustang 02-15-2012 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1546128)
How come everyone wears the rear first. My fronts are wearing about 20% faster

Perhaps they don't corner much and spin the tires a lot? Or they driiiiiiffffffffttttttttttt.

kenchan 02-15-2012 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1546204)
Perhaps they don't corner much and spin the tires a lot? Or they driiiiiiffffffffttttttttttt.

Yah my area is straight roads pretty much.

DIGItonium 02-15-2012 09:59 PM

Thanks for the suggestions! Yes, I'll definitely get another set of V12 tires so it can catch up with the fronts. Next month I might take it to the strip, so I'm going to need some fresh rubber! In the meantime, I'll burn these tires while setting up the MBC.

Unfortunately, the Conti DWs are not available in 305/30 size unless I want to change the setup to 265/35 and 285/35. From the ratings, it looks like these tires give the V12 a run for the money.

Despite the turbos, my car is a daily driver. Anything better than the stock tires and fits the budget is good in my books.

Ni55anPat 02-15-2012 11:18 PM

Anybody selling a 265-35-19? :) pilot sport

cossie1600 02-15-2012 11:31 PM

I have a pair of RE11 265/35/19 you can have for free, not much tread on them, but still good for autox

Ni55anPat 02-16-2012 09:07 AM

Need a matching tire lol.....

Pilot sports are great but def cost a good buck.

onzedge 02-16-2012 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ni55anPat (Post 1546992)
Need a matching tire lol.....

Pilot sports are great but def cost a good buck.

You get what you pay for and the Pilot Super Sports are worth very dollar. They are the best all-around tires I have ever used on any of my Z's or other cars/trucks by far.

shaun66 02-16-2012 09:42 AM

Is everybody sticking to stock sizes with these tires on sport package rims?

onzedge 02-16-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by shaun66 (Post 1547042)
Is everybody sticking to stock sizes with these tires on sport package rims?

I did.

wheee! 02-16-2012 10:20 AM

going to 275/35/19 and 305/30/19 on the sport rims this spring....

kenchan 02-16-2012 10:40 AM

why so wide? makes the tires look saggy and response sloppy, no?

cossie1600 02-16-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by shaun66 (Post 1547042)
Is everybody sticking to stock sizes with these tires on sport package rims?

the z can handle a lot of tires. Its your choice on how much you want to spend and how you want your car to drive

wheee! 02-16-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1547150)
why so wide? makes the tires look saggy and response sloppy, no?



I have Swifts and 15/20mm spacers so I want the wheels flush. I don't track or drive 'super' aggressive, so others that have gone this way say there is no problem with response etc....

kenchan 02-16-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1547157)
I have Swifts and 15/20mm spacers so I want the wheels flush. I don't track or drive 'super' aggressive, so others that have gone this way say there is no problem with response etc....

oh ok. sounds good then, i suppose...(?) :tup:

m4a1mustang 02-16-2012 10:53 AM

The only concern for me is the 305 on the rear which is out of spec. I know lots of people run without problems but I like to stay within manufacturer spec.

DIGItonium 02-16-2012 11:21 AM

275/35 & 305/30 below. Still shredding them haha... need more rubber to handle the extra power.

http://www.the370z.com/members/digit...ash-guards.jpg

red6spd 02-16-2012 11:28 AM

I will be ordering these soon. Think I'm goind with 295's in the back.

kenchan 02-16-2012 12:41 PM

DIGI you need STICKIER rubber to handle more power, width only does not = stickier. :icon17:

i bet PSS 275/35 will stick better than V12 305/30....

m4a1mustang 02-16-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1547381)
DIGI you need STICKIER rubber to handle more power, width only does not = stickier

:iagree:

DIGItonium 02-16-2012 03:26 PM

I like fat turt.. I mean tires.

If anything, I don't mind switching to 265/35 & 285/35 setup. I had 255/35 tires up font, but didn't like the thin profile compared to 245/40.

So Conti DW or PSS should fit the budget (hopefully a bit stickier and slightly longer lasting)? Heck, I don't mind something slightly better than the V12 for daily driving. After paying off the car I'll get a daily grocery getter, so I don't mind better tires for driving on good days.

XwChriswX 02-16-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1546011)
PSS front and V12 rear are just a terrible match. You shouldn't run mis-matched sets anyways, and those tires are just so different it's going to lead to terrible handling.

Trust me, I'm not doing it because I want to. If I had the budget, I would have had another set of PSS' on the rear. But I agree with mismatched being a bad idea. But when you don't have a choice at the moment... :ugh2:


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