New Tire Delivery Today
 

My Pilot Super Sports arrived today and they will go on the car tomorrow. Reviews will be imminent.
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That's got TireRack written all over them. How much $$?

They were lots more than I paid for my first car (1969 Datsun 510 for $900 in 1976).

Anyway, they were $1,380.00 delivered. No tax and I will mount and balance them myself for free (actually it will cost me the lunch I need to buy for the guy who lets me use his shop after hours).

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Sweet, tire porn! I am very interested to hear your thoughts on these, they have very positive reviews so far but those are few and far between.

Man -- funny stuff. My wife often finds me at my desktop and jokes about me looking at "Z-car Porn".

Is it me or the tire got some weird bulge on it? Rim protector?

It is a rim protector -- RE050s have the same thing.

I have four wheels that prove those do NOT protect your rims at all.

Interesting that they cost about the same as RE-11s. Looking forward to the review. I'm sure it will be strongly positive.

Stay off the sidewalk!! :icon17:

Yeah, best rim protector is to not hit a rim...

RE11s are way cheaper, I dont think these are for maximum performance. They have a treadwear between 200-300?

Beast

1. RE-11 are not available in OEM size for the rear. I was worried about clearance with 15 mm spacers and Eibach springs.

2. RE-11 are marginally cheaper (not "way" cheaper) and with a treadwear rating of 300 on the PSS, it will more than offset the miniscule cost difference.

3. The PSS's have a treadwear warranty and the RE-11's none.

4. The PSS's test performace surpasses the RE-11 (and every other tire) in most or all areas.

5. No doubt the RE-11 is a great tire -- I have used them on other vehicles. But, they don't last very long and as they wear they get a bit squirrely in wet conditions.

6. I researched this purchase for a couple of months and absolutely believe these are the best tires to get for a Z that is driven almost every day (and driven hard, conditions permitting), in many different situations and in different weather conditions. Time will tell if I am right.

Was close to buying these tires, but decided to get Continental DW's instead. Not that they compare at all, it's just that I have a dedicated set of wheels/tires for the track, so these are going to be solely for normal driving, about 90% of which is on the highway. I didn't think I needed super performant tires in that respect.

Really interested in hearing how they perform and last.

How does that mileage warranty work? I'm sure I would get much less than 15k miles on them on the track, :rofl2:.

woot i am ordering these when i get home. Still snow on the ground though.

You are right that the PSS will outlast the RE11, but it doesn't grip better. The PSS was designed as a replacement to the PS2, which is nothing more than a very good street tire where the RE11 was designed as a treaded track tire. You might want to lower your expectations on the PSS to something like a S04. It's a Michelin tire, I believe they will be very good. I just hate the fact that they are so expensive, almost like buying a BMW.

Life expectancy on RE-11 is roughly 8K-15K, PSS is 30K.

Realize that treadwear ratings are proprietary values that are not accurately comparable across tire brands. It's a voodoo number the tire companies make up to meet criteria (like DOT certification) and to compare wear ratings within their brand lineup.

If you think the Super Sports are going to last appreciably longer than RE-11s or even the older PS2, you're going to be disappointed. That treadwear rating of 300 means zilch.

That being said, I'm sure they will be phenomenal tires. Certainly on my list in the future if the RE-11s don't keep me as thrilled as they currently do.

You won't be happy to see them wear out at about 6000-7000 miles in the front, of course you will be going so much faster that you don't mind it as much. It's not like the R888 where you spent tons of money and is still slow.

I just read the Michelin tire warranty fine print. The 30k coverage only applies to 2011 model year vehicles equipped with the tires as OEM fitment. If the car comes with staggered sizes, the warranty is then cut in half to 15k miles. From the brochure, it looks like buying loose tires for our cars doesn't keep the 30k mile warranty. Boooo (see file attached)

Treadwear (tire softness) and grip go hand in hand. You can't have a rock hard tire that outgrips every other existing tire. Look at F1. They run on soft compounds to ring out the 'hot' laps when they need to and switch to harder compounds for longevity between pit stops at the cost of losing a few seconds a lap.

I've decided I no longer care about tire costs. It's like buying a Bugatti and then being pissed it takes 'expensive' premium gas. If I wanted tires to last 40k miles, I should have bought a Prius. I just have to hide the replacement tire purchases from my wife who doesn't share my sentiments.

I wish I can be a baller like you. I just got my credit card statement, can't believe I had to blow $1180 on a set of tires and $60 on a tank of gas. Why can't my paycheck go up as fast as tires cost. I am seriously thinking about running the Nitto NT01 and NT05 combo for next year, they are down to $240 a pop rather than $305.

Oh yeah, the 285 all around works great :)

My wife just turns the other way, we do the don't ask don't tell policy when it comes to racing stuff.

you belong in the honda fit crowd. plenty of such comments like that over there. 'wat, i expected my tires to last 40K miles! they went in like 25K wtf is going on here?' or 'waahhh price of gas went up again (takes regular gas btw) and now it costed me a whoppin $32 to fill up?!!'. 'waaaa waaaa...' :icon17:

That's nothing, the Prius crowd bitches over the loss of 1mpg due to not having the wheel cover. When you are used to driving a car that gets 42mpg on regular, then you have to get stuck in a car that gets 19mpg on premium. You will start bitching too. I am just annoyed that I spent $30K on my car and I don't get to use it other than the weekends. I put like 600 miles on the car in the last 5 months due to the weather and all the other BS. I want to drive it today, but I can't because I have to take the dogs today. I don't want to drive it for 10 minutes and have to swipe door hair from the car for 30. The racing cost is another story. Once you have to start buying tires and all the other BS, it really starts adding up.

you don't track your car, do you?

ahahahahaha I only pay 66.66% of cost for my michelin tires. And i beg you to show me where the PS2 is only a OK street tire? Really I would like to see that.

They are not winning any amateur racing, I can tell you that much.

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You whiny today. :icon17:

My Fit? :D someday we shall have a showdown at a touge downhill. Me in Fit you in your car of choice (Z or impreza) and I will hand ur arse to you. :D ;)

Haha, the Z. $1200 for tires every couple track days is brutal.

The Fit is pretty nasty on a tight course... my little brother had one, that thing was a blast to take in the twisties.

Haha, my cars are only street cars. The only time I needed tires frequently was when I carved the santa monica canyons like 12+ yrs ago every weekend. Lasted like 3k miles which wasnt too bad. The Fit needs LSD and another 150hp. :D

Onzedge- any inital reviews and picts on the car? :D

call me naive, but are you really trying to compare a run in some backroad to running around a track? i think you need to drop your fast and furious dvd and try a session at the track.

Prius- go hide and cry in your little corner today. :D

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Here you go, Mister Kenchan:

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I just mounted them this morning so forgive their lack of tire dressing appearance. My initial impressions, after some testing in the parking lot of an abandoned business, are:

1. Significant steering feel/feedback improvement -- very crisp and much more precise

2. Quieter than stock Potenzas (maybe my imagination)

3. Very difficult to break traction (VDC off)

4. Handling is excellent

I wish I were more articulate today, but my clients ran me to mental exhaustion this week.

More later.

Those look nice and beefy.

i concur!

Thanks. :tup: :driving:

onzedge- wow, those look meaty and :yum:

definitely better looking than my DW's sidewall for sure!! :tup: i likes.

the prius has been to more track days than your 370, of course i am crying as i am such a track nerd. what the hell is canyon carving anyway, is it the next fast and furious term or california slang? that and the 60 to 130 run, i dont get it.

op, didnt mean to highjack the thread, i want to know how they compare to the oem tires in terms of grip level and noise.

Because canyon carving is fun. I don't know why you are acting all high and almighty just because you have the means or ability to track your car, it's not the only way to enjoy the car.

Stuck with the dogs AGAIN?! :icon17: man, your life sucks. Lol