Small nail in tire, plug or inside patch?

PapoZalsa · 12-05-2010, 04:55 PM

Since the temperature have been dropping and I don't drive the car daily the PSI of the tires has been dropping at around 5PSI.

However there is one rear tire that drops 10PSI. My first tought was that the tire caught a nail during a trip to W. Virgina but I could not located. Today after a close inspection I found that is a litte tiny nail in the rear tire in between (channel) the beefy grip part of the tire.

Now, I can do the plug myself.

However with a patch they have to disassemble the tire and not a lot of shops around here have the equipment for 19" tires, plus I don't want then to damage the OEM rim and go thru all the troubles.

So the question is by you guys experience, would you guys recommend a plug or an inside patch?

Thanks!

cab83_750 · 12-05-2010, 05:08 PM

Patch it! $30 is worth your safety. When you go to the tire shop, just let them know that you don't have any scratches (have them visually confirm it), and you should be good to go.

As an additional precaution, look for shops with the 'touchless tire mount' machine.

One_Quick_Z · 12-05-2010, 05:12 PM

Just replace the whole tire not worth if you use those as track tires also.

DAN

PapoZalsa · 12-05-2010, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_Quick_Z

Just replace the whole tire not worth if you use those as track tires also.

DAN

Thanks, but I don't track the Z.

ImportConvert · 12-05-2010, 05:18 PM

Patch. You can only patch a performance tire 2x before replacing it, even for street driving.

fairladyZ34 · 12-05-2010, 05:31 PM

inside patch

Trips · 12-05-2010, 05:41 PM

A plug is fine, a patch is better, and a new tire well thats just more $$

TreeSemdyZee · 12-05-2010, 06:03 PM

My tire shop doesn't even do plugs anymore. They do a "permanent" patch. I had two patches on the same tire within one week and have not has any problems with them.

FL 4Motion · 12-05-2010, 06:05 PM

patch on the inside, much safer.

dropped1 · 12-05-2010, 06:35 PM

Ahh..No bueno! I'd see if they could patch the tire from the inside.

I just replaced my rear tires with RE-11's thanks to a large chunk of metal in my tire. Instead of patching, I opted to replace both rear tires because they we're almost due to be replaced anyways.

spearfish25 · 12-05-2010, 06:57 PM

I've put 3 vulcanizing plugs in my rear RE050As and tracked them at 125mph at Road America afterwards. Plugs are fine. If you want to buy into the hype that you need to replace or patch, be my guest. Worst that happens with a plug is that it comes out and you have a slow deflation...and that won't happen with a vulcanizing plug.

BlackJack Tire Repair | The Leading Manufacturer and Worldwide Distributor of Tire Repair Products

PapoZalsa · 12-05-2010, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dropped1

Ahh..No bueno! I'd see if they could patch the tire from the inside.

I just replaced my rear tires with RE-11's thanks to a large chunk of metal in my tire. Instead of patching, I opted to replace both rear tires because they we're almost due to be replaced anyways.

It is a little tiny nail, however I don't have a problem with getting it patch inside, the problem is to find the right Tire Shop that IS NOT going to f*ck my OEM rims.

PapoZalsa · 12-05-2010, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

I've put 3 vulcanizing plugs in my rear RE050As and tracked them at 125mph at Road America afterwards. Plugs are fine. If you want to buy into the hype that you need to replace or patch, be my guest. Worst that happens with a plug is that it comes out and you have a slow deflation...and that won't happen with a vulcanizing plug.

BlackJack Tire Repair | The Leading Manufacturer and Worldwide Distributor of Tire Repair Products

Thanks, by any chance to do have the Part Number?

Is not coming up as vulcanizing plug on the search.

spearfish25 · 12-05-2010, 07:36 PM

Replied to your PM. For everyone else, all of the BlackJack plugs are vulcanized (or self-vulcanizing). Just look on their site under the 'passenger vehicle repair kits' after clicking 'tire repair kits' on the left-hand sidebar.

FL 4Motion · 12-05-2010, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

It is a little tiny nail, however I don't have a problem with getting it patch inside, the problem is to find the right Tire Shop that IS NOT going to f*ck my OEM rims.

you could go on Tirerack.com and look for the list of their preferred installers in your area, call them up and see what it would cost for a patch if that's the way you still want to go.

12-05-2010, 04:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4499	Small nail in tire, plug or inside patch? Since the temperature have been dropping and I don't drive the car daily the PSI of the tires has been dropping at around 5PSI. However there is one rear tire that drops 10PSI. My first tought was that the tire caught a nail during a trip to W. Virgina but I could not located. Today after a close inspection I found that is a litte tiny nail in the rear tire in between (channel) the beefy grip part of the tire. Now, I can do the plug myself. However with a patch they have to disassemble the tire and not a lot of shops around here have the equipment for 19" tires, plus I don't want then to damage the OEM rim and go thru all the troubles. So the question is by you guys experience, would you guys recommend a plug or an inside patch? Thanks! __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

12-05-2010, 05:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
One_Quick_Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seneca Il Posts: 1,374 Drives: 10 Civic EX Sedan Rep Power: 218	Just replace the whole tire not worth if you use those as track tires also. DAN __________________ -My BRZ with exhaust will decimate all if we overnight parts from Japan- 10 Civic EX Sedan- Current Daily

12-05-2010, 05:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
fairladyZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Central NJ Posts: 1,577 Drives: 08 G37S Black M6 Rep Power: 18	inside patch __________________ From Z to G to BMW and back to a G! Nismo for life

12-05-2010, 05:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland, Ca Posts: 8,728 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	A plug is fine, a patch is better, and a new tire well thats just more $$ __________________

12-05-2010, 06:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
dropped1 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: VA Beach Posts: 302 Drives: SOLD 40th Z #104 Rep Power: 258	Ahh..No bueno! I'd see if they could patch the tire from the inside. I just replaced my rear tires with RE-11's thanks to a large chunk of metal in my tire. Instead of patching, I opted to replace both rear tires because they we're almost due to be replaced anyways. __________________ Aaron Do you own a 40th anniversary? Join the club!

12-05-2010, 05:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 417	Patch it! $30 is worth your safety. When you go to the tire shop, just let them know that you don't have any scratches (have them visually confirm it), and you should be good to go. As an additional precaution, look for shops with the 'touchless tire mount' machine.

12-05-2010, 05:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7626	Patch. You can only patch a performance tire 2x before replacing it, even for street driving.

12-05-2010, 06:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 59 Posts: 4,880 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27408	My tire shop doesn't even do plugs anymore. They do a "permanent" patch. I had two patches on the same tire within one week and have not has any problems with them.

12-05-2010, 06:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701615	patch on the inside, much safer.

12-05-2010, 06:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	I've put 3 vulcanizing plugs in my rear RE050As and tracked them at 125mph at Road America afterwards. Plugs are fine. If you want to buy into the hype that you need to replace or patch, be my guest. Worst that happens with a plug is that it comes out and you have a slow deflation...and that won't happen with a vulcanizing plug. BlackJack Tire Repair \| The Leading Manufacturer and Worldwide Distributor of Tire Repair Products __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

12-05-2010, 07:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Replied to your PM. For everyone else, all of the BlackJack plugs are vulcanized (or self-vulcanizing). Just look on their site under the 'passenger vehicle repair kits' after clicking 'tire repair kits' on the left-hand sidebar. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

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