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JayYoon 07-30-2010 03:41 AM

are XXR good brands?
 
I mean they were pretty cheap... Do the quality of the rims actually matter? Can it damage the car?

Jordo! 07-30-2010 05:24 AM

Never heard of them.

If you want inexpensive lightweight rims, I recommend Rotas -- ignore the bad press and stupid internet hype. A lot of hard core road racers and autoxers use Rotas on the track without issues.

That said, if this is strictly for daily driving, it probably doesn't matter all that much what you buy.

Liquid_G 07-30-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 651910)
Never heard of them.

If you want inexpensive lightweight rims, I recommend Rotas -- ignore the bad press and stupid internet hype. A lot of hard core road racers and autoxers use Rotas on the track without issues.

That said, if this is strictly for daily driving, it probably doesn't matter all that much what you buy.

LOL at recommending Rotas... :shakes head:

Its not that Rotas are built cheaply or whatever.. I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the actual build of the wheel..

The thing with Rotas, XXRs etc is that they blatantly rip-off the design of every legit wheel manufacturer out there, indirectly driving up the price of real wheels..

Here are some examples of the so-called "internet hype"


Rota D2
http://www.rotawheels.com/images/products/d2_1.jpg
Work Meister S1
http://www.db-power.co.uk/images/WORK-S1_th.jpg

Rota Grid 1570
http://www.rotawheels.com/images/products/grid-2_1.jpg

Volk TE37
http://icbmotorsport.com/Wheels3/Volk_TE37_SCM.jpg


Rota Flashback
http://www.rotawheels.com/images/pro...lashback_2.jpg

Work Equip 03
http://www.japanesenostalgiccar.com/...003%20gold.jpg


Rota D-Force
http://www.rotawheels.com/images/products/d-force_1.jpg

Advan RS-D
http://royaltiger.files.wordpress.co.../rsdbanner.jpg



etc etc...

JayYoon, Ultimately its your car so do whatever you want with it.. but to me its hard to respect a company that so blatantly steals designs of other wheel manufacturers. The Z deserves better wheels than Rotas and XXR.

If money is an issue I'd recommend either waiting and saving your money for real wheels, or maybe look at finding something used..

Chris_1 07-30-2010 01:15 PM

Wow I am not a hater of rota, as I dont think their a bad company at all. I have to laugh though, b/c those wheels truly are splitting images of the real things. I like the companies that do something similar but add their own touch to it. Wheels are wheels and their are only so many nice, clean designs you can do, but DIRECTLY copying isnt very nice.

JayYoon 07-30-2010 01:47 PM

My question now is rims like rotas and xxr, do they damage the car because its cheap rims?

JayYoon 07-30-2010 01:58 PM

btw these rims are xxr and they are pretty cheap compared to like sf challege and other decent brands...

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/a...zn/962GOLD.jpg

Chris_1 07-30-2010 02:16 PM

Cheap rims wont damage a car, if they are the correct fitment, meaning brake clearance, and correct offsets and widths. You should be fine if your looking for something cheap, I would suggest TSW for cast wheels, but I dont have alot of experience with XXR. I do have a friend with a wheel JUST like that, but by another company on his srt4 and it drives fine.

wishihadnav 07-30-2010 02:23 PM

i say go for it dude..its your money so spend it how you want..

JayYoon 07-30-2010 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris@WheelsDirectOnline.com (Post 652703)
Cheap rims wont damage a car, if they are the correct fitment, meaning brake clearance, and correct offsets and widths. You should be fine if your looking for something cheap, I would suggest TSW for cast wheels, but I dont have alot of experience with XXR. I do have a friend with a wheel JUST like that, but by another company on his srt4 and it drives fine.

Does the wheelsDirectOnline.com site still work? I want to buy some rims on the site... is that possible?

MoChu 07-30-2010 02:27 PM

I got the xxr 521. So far everything is fine. No problems. Yes, they are cheap in price but quality is not bad. You dont really know unless you own one.

JayYoon 07-30-2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MoChu (Post 652736)
I got the xxr 521. So far everything is fine. No problems. Yes, they are cheap in price but quality is not bad. You dont really know unless you own one.

ooo i c... u think it was worth getting? what did u do with ur stock rims and tires?

fairladyZ34 07-30-2010 02:51 PM

i wonder if anyone buys the knock off rims and the real center caps? seems like it would work and most people would never know the difference

wishihadnav 07-30-2010 02:53 PM

yeah people do that all the time...I have a set of new Volk GT caps (high) is anyone is interested in doing that..haha

Chris_1 07-30-2010 03:09 PM

We dont have a way to purchase on the site, we like email or phone to be honest bc we can deal directly with the customer. We accept paypal and all credit cards, send me an email if you want to chris@wheelsdirectonline.com and will get some magic going for you.

Chris_1 07-30-2010 03:12 PM

Fairlady, PLEASE do not encourage that centercap swapping thing lol. That is like worse then buying knockoffs, its ok to buy knockoffs, but to try and pass them off as the real thing is EXTREMELY screwed up.

Jeffblue 07-30-2010 03:13 PM

Chris is a great person to work with! My experience with Wheelsdirect, and chris, specifically has been great.

kenchan 07-30-2010 03:44 PM

from what ive read in the past XXR wheels shatter instead of bending when it hits a big enough impact.

they are okay on cheezo cars... and to be used for snows.

Jordo! 07-30-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquid_G (Post 652220)
LOL at recommending Rotas... :shakes head:

Its not that Rotas are built cheaply or whatever.. I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the actual build of the wheel..

The thing with Rotas, XXRs etc is that they blatantly rip-off the design of every legit wheel manufacturer out there, indirectly driving up the price of real wheels..

Here are some examples of the so-called "internet hype" .

Who cares? They're wheels not rare pieces of art :icon17:

Is this about being a poseur? So long as you don't claim your Rotas are Volks, why does it matter?

And even if you did, who are you trying to impress? No one cares about your wheels -- seriously :icon17:

And competition for a given style of wheel should drive the price down not up...

Besides, there's only like 5 or 6 different wheel styles out there. They are all variations on the same theme, and everybody rips off everybody else -- just get ones you like.

BTW: Forged wheels are stronger given their weight -- they aren't necessarily stronger overall, and you can destroy a forged rim if you hit it hard enough.

Again, these aren't rare pieces of art nor are they snowflakes -- they are fvcking wheels. Get ones you like and enjoy.

JayYoon 07-30-2010 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris@WheelsDirectOnline.com (Post 652829)
Fairlady, PLEASE do not encourage that centercap swapping thing lol. That is like worse then buying knockoffs, its ok to buy knockoffs, but to try and pass them off as the real thing is EXTREMELY screwed up.

thats hella messed up... but than again it is pretty smart~~;;lol... but f'ed up...

JayYoon 07-30-2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris@WheelsDirectOnline.com (Post 652825)
We dont have a way to purchase on the site, we like email or phone to be honest bc we can deal directly with the customer. We accept paypal and all credit cards, send me an email if you want to chris@wheelsdirectonline.com and will get some magic going for you.

mail sent!

Chris_1 07-30-2010 06:01 PM

recieved!

fairladyZ34 07-30-2010 06:24 PM

i wasnt saying before that i do the center cap swap i was just saying that i am sure there are people that do that. personally, like most other people, id rather take pride in knowing that i buy the best

kenchan 07-30-2010 07:23 PM

Just keep your sport package wheels. They are great wheels. If you want to be different, paint them, get spacers, etc. but don't swap them out for garbage.

Waiz 07-30-2010 07:28 PM

Please don't buy XXR's for your 370z.

There are plenty of bargain options like Enkei RPF1's that are a much better quality/weight.

Will they damage your Z, probably not but you will lose performance from the added unsprung weight of the heavier wheels.

JayYoon 08-03-2010 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waizzz (Post 653262)
Please don't buy XXR's for your 370z.

There are plenty of bargain options like Enkei RPF1's that are a much better quality/weight.

Will they damage your Z, probably not but you will lose performance from the added unsprung weight of the heavier wheels.

well i really want some gold rims... but i couldnt fine any that were nice besides XXR...

Jordo! 08-03-2010 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 657088)
well i really want some gold rims... but i couldnt fine any that were nice besides XXR...

Apprently Sportmax (which I have actually heard of) is the former name of the company -- I'd say search for reviews on Sportmax and see if you can find out why they switched ownership.

Jeffblue 08-03-2010 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 653254)
Just keep your sport package wheels. They are great wheels. If you want to be different, paint them, get spacers, etc. but don't swap them out for garbage.

:iagree:

If you are going to get rid of your rays, UPGRADE, don't buy some crap wheels just to look different. if you want to change your wheels, save up some cash, sell the rays, and get something of at least equal quality.

JayYoon 08-04-2010 02:22 PM

Oh yeah i had a question regarding my wheels as well...
So what do you guys do with your stock rims after you get ur new rims?
Do you take out the tires from your stock rims and use it for ur new rims?
Or do you get new tires for your new rims?
Do you normally sell your old rims and tires?
If so do you know how much they are worth?

zZSoCalZz 08-04-2010 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 659256)
Oh yeah i had a question regarding my wheels as well...
So what do you guys do with your stock rims after you get ur new rims?
Do you take out the tires from your stock rims and use it for ur new rims?
Or do you get new tires for your new rims?
Do you normally sell your old rims and tires?
If so do you know how much they are worth?

Some sell them some keep them for back up or if they decide to sell the car.
If the size are the same why not.
Same question as the first question?
I think I've seen from 1200~1800. with tires.

Liquid_G 08-04-2010 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 653006)
Who cares? They're wheels not rare pieces of art :icon17:

Is this about being a poseur? So long as you don't claim your Rotas are Volks, why does it matter?

And even if you did, who are you trying to impress? No one cares about your wheels -- seriously :icon17:

And competition for a given style of wheel should drive the price down not up...

Besides, there's only like 5 or 6 different wheel styles out there. They are all variations on the same theme, and everybody rips off everybody else -- just get ones you like.

BTW: Forged wheels are stronger given their weight -- they aren't necessarily stronger overall, and you can destroy a forged rim if you hit it hard enough.

Again, these aren't rare pieces of art nor are they snowflakes -- they are fvcking wheels. Get ones you like and enjoy.

Obviously you just don't get it.. enjoy your fake wheels.

KingZee 08-04-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 659256)
Oh yeah i had a question regarding my wheels as well...
So what do you guys do with your stock rims after you get ur new rims?
Do you take out the tires from your stock rims and use it for ur new rims?
Or do you get new tires for your new rims?
Do you normally sell your old rims and tires?
If so do you know how much they are worth?

I think you should sell me your rays for $500 :tup:

kenchan 08-04-2010 05:31 PM

I stackup stock wheel/tire set to use as spares and when I'm ready to sell the car.

HomeDepot sells particle board circles that are prefect size to use for storage. Screw on 4 heavy duty casters and you're set! :p

TeamARK 08-04-2010 05:51 PM

If you can't justify spending 2500 + on wheels. XXR's are the way to go. They also boast that they crash tested their wheels ( side impact)

Alex

destinyZ 08-09-2010 06:34 AM

if you want to race the car and dont have a set of wheels for it, just use the stocks and put dragg radials on 2 of them and us the other 2 for another set of dragg radials and role in your $2,00-$4,000 dollar wheels. idk just a suggestion. did that with my scion.

Another thing is dont ever rush into or feel pressured to get something as big as wheels, exaust, tuner ect...look into and see what will best fit your style, interests, and intent for the car. The car should express you and have your style put into it. Thats why we all choose different things. Be pretty boring if we all just got TE37 or enkie RPF1. like others said just save if money is an issue. you'll feel alot better about the car if you wait and get EXACTLY what YOU like.

Good luck.

CharBoiler 08-10-2010 03:35 PM

Sportmaxx changed their name to XXR.

IMHO, I believe you get what you pay for. And what you get usually works for what you are doing. I'm not saying knockoffs are bad or those who get them should be looked down upon. I have a pair of Konig Rewinds (knockoff Watanabes) on my 97 Miata. I wasn't about to pay over half the value of my Miata on wheels. That being said, I'm not planning on racing on those wheels. And if I did, I wouldn't be surprised if something happened. Not saying they would. Anything could happen. Of course I'd feel much safer with a set of Work's or SSR's. I am no expert on wheels. I don't know what goes into making a set of wheels.

When it comes down to it, I say get what you feel comfortable with. There is no point in getting a set of wheels that you can't afford.

I know some of you don't agree with what I said but this is just my opinion.

Thanks for listening...errr...reading.

I agree with Chris, putting the "real" center caps on knockoff wheels is really screwed up. Just keep the center caps off.

-char

jpmotor 08-10-2010 03:39 PM

LOL XXRs...

XXR are heavy
Rota are much lighter but quality is still a question(same with XXR), I know because I had a set a long time ago

I like my Five:ADs MUCCCHHHH better

JayYoon 08-12-2010 05:57 AM

So are XXR dangerous?!

blastman5 08-12-2010 06:06 AM

xxr rims are not the best wheels but they r good enough for the money...they r seen on a lot of cheaper cars like the scion xbs and they use to be called by another name...i dont recall the old name but they got a bad name so they changed their name....all in all they r built fine and as long as u have the right clearance for ur vehicle then u should b just fine

JayYoon 08-12-2010 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blastman5 (Post 671501)
xxr rims are not the best wheels but they r good enough for the money...they r seen on a lot of cheaper cars like the scion xbs and they use to be called by another name...i dont recall the old name but they got a bad name so they changed their name....all in all they r built fine and as long as u have the right clearance for ur vehicle then u should b just fine

Sorry but since i am very noob... i dun understand what you mean by "xxr rims are not the best wheels" do you mean they can crack easily or idk... what do u mean by that?

OMGWTFBBQ 08-12-2010 11:52 AM

I think the consensus here is that you should keep your stock wheels and save up for something actually worth purchasing. They are decent wheels, but for a $30k+ car, please don't. And plus, if you buy a replica, you're going to end up wishing you had saved a little more and gotten the real deal.

If you really want to go budget friendly, just have your OEM wheels refinished in a shade of gold you like. It's cheaper and looks good. That way you can still save up money for those SF Challenges you've been drooling over yet satisfying your craving for gold wheels.

On a side note, I'm pretty sure the Rota D2's listed above are more likely replicas of the SSR Professor SP1 than the Work Meister S1 3p. :tup:


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