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JayYoon 08-12-2010 01:25 PM

Grrr... u have a good point... but sf challenge or gt-s is just too xpensive~~~~ GRRRR idk what to do!!!

OMGWTFBBQ 08-12-2010 09:26 PM

Well what's your budget? Maybe that'll help.

destinyZ 08-12-2010 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OMGWTFBBQ (Post 671907)
I think the consensus here is that you should keep your stock wheels and save up for something actually worth purchasing. They are decent wheels, but for a $30k+ car, please don't. And plus, if you buy a replica, you're going to end up wishing you had saved a little more and gotten the real deal.

If you really want to go budget friendly, just have your OEM wheels refinished in a shade of gold you like. It's cheaper and looks good. That way you can still save up money for those SF Challenges you've been drooling over yet satisfying your craving for gold wheels.

On a side note, I'm pretty sure the Rota D2's listed above are more likely replicas of the SSR Professor SP1 than the Work Meister S1 3p. :tup:

:tiphat: I like how he thinks, and he is right. Its ok man, i want a set of volk ce28n cuz of there LIGHTLIGHT weight but i cant right now. im going to be doing a DIY on my wheels this weekend. It sucks but just wait, trust me i feel your pain. I'd have the AAM turbo kit and the CE28n and the tein coilover kit, ect.... patients and build your car slowly and think about what your buying. do some lil DIY things and just sit back and learn the car and whats out there. Like i said im doin DIY things and just payin the car off this way all that money is mine to spend:stirthepot:

JayYoon 08-13-2010 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGWTFBBQ (Post 672847)
Well what's your budget? Maybe that'll help.

to be honest i have the money... i actually can buy sf challenge or gt-s... but i rather not... i personally like seeing atleast couple ks in my bank accounts ~~;; cheapter the better...

NOW I AM REALLY INTERESTED IN XXR 502... LOL AND MAYBE GET THAT GOLD COATED?! LOL... WHATCHA THINK?

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/a.../502GD10H7.jpg

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/a...R_502_MB_2.jpg

what do these look like!?!??!! LOL!!!

blastman5 08-13-2010 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 671518)
Sorry but since i am very noob... i dun understand what you mean by "xxr rims are not the best wheels" do you mean they can crack easily or idk... what do u mean by that?

i havent really heard of too many problems with them and im sure they are fine...i dont thinnk u really need to worry about breaking them unless ur planning on offroading with ur car or jumping curbs just like any other rim...i have asked around a lot and it seems that they are built as good as a knock off rim can be....i am looking at some xxrs too just because i like the style that they come in and i have been unable to find that style just the way they do it in another brand(although they are knock offs, so they are bound to b around)

OMGWTFBBQ 08-13-2010 02:44 AM

I don't know what they look like? Work Gnosis GS2?

JayYoon 08-13-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OMGWTFBBQ (Post 673173)
I don't know what they look like? Work Gnosis GS2?

lol it looks pretty similar to that as well... but i was thinkin more of volk gt-s...

JayYoon 08-13-2010 01:08 PM

are 20" too big for 370z? i think 18" too small... and i thought 19" was a good size... btw 9.5" in the front and 10.5" in the back, is that a good setup? Has anyone tried the non staggered setup?

destinyZ 08-13-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 673161)
to be honest i have the money... i actually can buy sf challenge or gt-s... but i rather not... i personally like seeing atleast couple ks in my bank accounts ~~;; cheapter the better...

NOW I AM REALLY INTERESTED IN XXR 502... LOL AND MAYBE GET THAT GOLD COATED?! LOL... WHATCHA THINK?

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/a.../502GD10H7.jpg

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/a...R_502_MB_2.jpg

what do these look like!?!??!! LOL!!!

:eek: i like them in gold. Not so much the other color.

gaveup 12-13-2010 11:23 AM

The only people that bitch about "fake" wheels are the people who buy new "original" wheels and are salty because someone got the same look as they did for WAY cheaper.

Honestly, I think everyone here would love TE37's right? However, they aren't cheap at all. Many say "save up a little bit and get the real wheels because you'll regret it later". Save up a little bit? Seriously?

Let's be honest here, the amount you would need to save up isn't just a "little bit" now is it? I can get a set of rota grids 18x9(2) and 18x10(2) shipped to my door for around $1000.

Are Volk TE37's just a little bit more? Let's go to vivid racing and price it out:
Sub-Total: $3,398.58
-------------------------------------
Handling Fee: $10.00
Sub-Total: $3,398.58
Vivid Racing Shipping (1 x 92.4lbs) (Ground): $90.28
Total: $3,498.86
-------------------------------------

How is $2,500 just saving a little bit more?

I understand where a lot of people are coming from with hating on rotas or xxrs or whatever, but to sit here and say they are "low quality crap wheels" is just someone trying to justify their purchase. Are they better (lighter, higher quality)? Yes. Should you be an elitist ******* and look down on someone who wanted the look for cheaper? No.

I'm only bumping this thread because I can't stand the kids that act all high and mighty because they have "superior" wheels. Some people just can't see dropping 10% of their cars sticker price on wheels, don't hate them for it.

God-Speed 12-13-2010 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 849205)
The only people that bitch about "fake" wheels are the people who buy new "original" wheels and are salty because someone got the same look as they did for WAY cheaper.

Honestly, I think everyone here would love TE37's right? However, they aren't cheap at all. Many say "save up a little bit and get the real wheels because you'll regret it later". Save up a little bit? Seriously?

Let's be honest here, the amount you would need to save up isn't just a "little bit" now is it? I can get a set of rota grids 18x9(2) and 18x10(2) shipped to my door for around $1000.

Are Volk TE37's just a little bit more? Let's go to vivid racing and price it out:
Sub-Total: $3,398.58
-------------------------------------
Handling Fee: $10.00
Sub-Total: $3,398.58
Vivid Racing Shipping (1 x 92.4lbs) (Ground): $90.28
Total: $3,498.86
-------------------------------------

How is $2,500 just saving a little bit more?

I understand where a lot of people are coming from with hating on rotas or xxrs or whatever, but to sit here and say they are "low quality crap wheels" is just someone trying to justify their purchase. Are they better (lighter, higher quality)? Yes. Should you be an elitist ******* and look down on someone who wanted the look for cheaper? No.

I'm only bumping this thread because I can't stand the kids that act all high and mighty because they have "superior" wheels. Some people just can't see dropping 10% of their cars sticker price on wheels, don't hate them for it.

:iagree:

Stealth_Z 12-13-2010 01:42 PM

Buy what you can afford...

Jordo! 12-13-2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 849205)
The only people that bitch about "fake" wheels are the people who buy new "original" wheels and are salty because someone got the same look as they did for WAY cheaper.

Honestly, I think everyone here would love TE37's right? However, they aren't cheap at all. Many say "save up a little bit and get the real wheels because you'll regret it later". Save up a little bit? Seriously?

Let's be honest here, the amount you would need to save up isn't just a "little bit" now is it? I can get a set of rota grids 18x9(2) and 18x10(2) shipped to my door for around $1000.

Are Volk TE37's just a little bit more? Let's go to vivid racing and price it out:
Sub-Total: $3,398.58
-------------------------------------
Handling Fee: $10.00
Sub-Total: $3,398.58
Vivid Racing Shipping (1 x 92.4lbs) (Ground): $90.28
Total: $3,498.86
-------------------------------------

How is $2,500 just saving a little bit more?

I understand where a lot of people are coming from with hating on rotas or xxrs or whatever, but to sit here and say they are "low quality crap wheels" is just someone trying to justify their purchase. Are they better (lighter, higher quality)? Yes. Should you be an elitist ******* and look down on someone who wanted the look for cheaper? No.

I'm only bumping this thread because I can't stand the kids that act all high and mighty because they have "superior" wheels. Some people just can't see dropping 10% of their cars sticker price on wheels, don't hate them for it.

:iagree:

Also, Rotas actually have a very good repulation among people who actually track their car -- it's only the JDM fanboys who bristle at the thought of having "fake" wheels.

It's a wheel not the Mona Lisa.

XXR's are probably fine too, although I don't know much about them. They used be under the "Sprt Max" label, so searching for reviews on that may be informative.

However, fashion or brand loyalty aside, if you want wheels of similar size that are significantly lighter, for that you have to pay a pretty penny.

I can't find any 18's or 19's lighter than the factory Rays that won't cost an arm, leg, and left nut :(

Chris_1 12-13-2010 04:09 PM

I dont like companies that steal exact designs, but theirs not much you can do these days. Like someone said, buy what you can afford, I had rotas on my old subaru and loved them.

kenchan 12-13-2010 04:28 PM

i get so tired when i see these cheezo tuner wheels these days. :shakes head:

Liquid_G 12-13-2010 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 849205)
The only people that bitch about "fake" wheels are the people who buy new "original" wheels and are salty because someone got the same look as they did for WAY cheaper.

Honestly, I think everyone here would love TE37's right? However, they aren't cheap at all. Many say "save up a little bit and get the real wheels because you'll regret it later". Save up a little bit? Seriously?

Let's be honest here, the amount you would need to save up isn't just a "little bit" now is it? I can get a set of rota grids 18x9(2) and 18x10(2) shipped to my door for around $1000.

Are Volk TE37's just a little bit more? Let's go to vivid racing and price it out:
Sub-Total: $3,398.58
-------------------------------------
Handling Fee: $10.00
Sub-Total: $3,398.58
Vivid Racing Shipping (1 x 92.4lbs) (Ground): $90.28
Total: $3,498.86
-------------------------------------

How is $2,500 just saving a little bit more?

I understand where a lot of people are coming from with hating on rotas or xxrs or whatever, but to sit here and say they are "low quality crap wheels" is just someone trying to justify their purchase. Are they better (lighter, higher quality)? Yes. Should you be an elitist ******* and look down on someone who wanted the look for cheaper? No.

I'm only bumping this thread because I can't stand the kids that act all high and mighty because they have "superior" wheels. Some people just can't see dropping 10% of their cars sticker price on wheels, don't hate them for it.

you couldn't be more wrong.. It's not about hating on someone because of "LOL ROTAS".. Its about supporting a company that puts the time and money into making an original design. And not supporting a company that blatantly steals that design. Buying cheap knock-offs hurts the industry.

There are other options besides buying new Volks at 3500-4000 a set.. Used wheels can be had for a much better price.. or **** even look at Enkei wheels.. They aren't in the same category as Rays wheels (forged) but they are a quality wheel that is original and not a blatant knock offs.

fuct 12-14-2010 11:47 AM

just kinda funny the OP HAS a great set of rays wheels already and he wants a knock off just because they are gold....

buy the XXR's.... i heard walmart is coming out with a supercharger! watch out GTM and Stillen!

MB370Z 12-14-2010 12:53 PM

might as well head to autozone and get a universal APC air intake

corner3garage 12-14-2010 01:09 PM

XXR are an outsourced brand. The quality is nothing near that of Rays, Advan, weds, or bbs, but the price is not up there either. Personally I have seen rims break and I wouldn't use them.

gaveup 12-14-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corner3garage (Post 850773)
XXR are an outsourced brand. The quality is nothing near that of Rays, Advan, weds, or bbs, but the price is not up there either. Personally I have seen rims break and I wouldn't use them.

I've seen volks break as well.

I'm not here to start any sort of forum argument. I'm just saying, for a daily driven car these cheaper wheels are not bad and give you the look you want for a decent price point. I'd say for what the MAJORITY of people on this site use their cars for these knockoff wheels will work just fine.

My (personal!) main problem with buying $3k+ wheels is this:

They are just as easy to steal as a cheap wheel no one cares about. Wheel locks, alarm, etc...it doesn't matter. A thief will steal volks long LONG LONG before he even considers a brand such as Rota.

When I had rotas on my old WRX, no one tried anything. I had zero worries about someone grabbing them. My roomate has BBS LM's on his S2000 and is terrified to leave it somewhere unmonitored for a while. Same with my other roomate when he bought Advan RG-IIs for his S2000.

Said S2000 on RG-II's was stolen from my driveway a week later and he was out the cost of those shiny new pricey wheels. It happens, I know, but it happens a lot more in South Florida I guess.

In the end it boils down to what a person likes, wants and can afford. I would never look down on anyone for getting knockoff wheels, nor would I call a person rolling around on Volks an idiot for spending so much. If the end result looks good, who gives a ****?

gaveup 12-14-2010 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid_G (Post 849676)
you couldn't be more wrong.. It's not about hating on someone because of "LOL ROTAS".. Its about supporting a company that puts the time and money into making an original design. And not supporting a company that blatantly steals that design. Buying cheap knock-offs hurts the industry.

There are other options besides buying new Volks at 3500-4000 a set.. Used wheels can be had for a much better price.. or **** even look at Enkei wheels.. They aren't in the same category as Rays wheels (forged) but they are a quality wheel that is original and not a blatant knock offs.

Honestly, I'm not 100% sure Volks TE37 was the FIRST RIM OF IT'S KIND EVEEEERRRR.

And trust me, I understand the work that these companies go through to design and manufacture their wheels. However, I can say without a doubt they are charging a premium for them just because they are popular and desirable wheels. You're buying the name with a wheel thrown in :)

Enter companies like Rota....They see that there is obviously a market for replica wheels at a significant discount in pricing. It's obvious people will pay less for the look and can ignore the weight or process used to create them.

While Enkeis are a great option, it's hard to get that perfect "hella flush" look that all the kids are crazy about.

kenchan 12-14-2010 02:25 PM

in a country where chinese, koreans, japanese, taiwanese, malaysian, etc are considered the same you are a 'smart shopper' if you buy rota/xxr/shitwheelznext which looks exactly the same, smells and feels the same as the Volks (to their eyes).

it's a very sad situation really. this is why i get tired when i see replica cheezo wheels. why bother putting in the effort when people dont realize the difference?

toxik 12-14-2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 850847)
I've seen volks break as well.

I'm not here to start any sort of forum argument. I'm just saying, for a daily driven car these cheaper wheels are not bad and give you the look you want for a decent price point. I'd say for what the MAJORITY of people on this site use their cars for these knockoff wheels will work just fine.

My (personal!) main problem with buying $3k+ wheels is this:

They are just as easy to steal as a cheap wheel no one cares about. Wheel locks, alarm, etc...it doesn't matter. A thief will steal volks long LONG LONG before he even considers a brand such as Rota.

When I had rotas on my old WRX, no one tried anything. I had zero worries about someone grabbing them. My roomate has BBS LM's on his S2000 and is terrified to leave it somewhere unmonitored for a while. Same with my other roomate when he bought Advan RG-IIs for his S2000.

Said S2000 on RG-II's was stolen from my driveway a week later and he was out the cost of those shiny new pricey wheels. It happens, I know, but it happens a lot more in South Florida I guess.

In the end it boils down to what a person likes, wants and can afford. I would never look down on anyone for getting knockoff wheels, nor would I call a person rolling around on Volks an idiot for spending so much. If the end result looks good, who gives a ****?

I see your point but I think you're looking at it wrong, look up the top 10 cars most likely to get stolen... they are old hondas and toyotas etc. The average, every day, beater, cheap car is more likely than the exclusive unique car. Same with wheels, stealing high value wheels only causes more attention to the thief, harder to sell and not get caught. That goes for all aftermarket wheels, cheap too. OEM wheels are the ones that get stolen more than any Volk, Rota, XXR wheels out there. Really shouldn't be scared of getting them stolen, should never be an issue when purchasing/choosing wheels.

I kind of agree with you in looking down/looking up to people because of wheels. It's not a custom built turbo, all you did is write a check, or clicked buy... no accomplishment there. On the other hand, if you have sports package Rays, you cant go and buy cheap cast wheels... that's pointless, even if form > function rule applies, our OEM wheels look more than great, and are forged light high quality as well. Can't expect to not get a few WTFs? out of it in a thread on these forums.

kenchan 12-14-2010 02:37 PM

yah i dont see the point of selling the sport package wheels for cheezo wheels at all.

100% of the time uninformed folks buy the wrong offset and widths, wrong tire size making their cool car look like crap.

gaveup 12-14-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 850896)
yah i dont see the point of selling the sport package wheels for cheezo wheels at all.

100% of the time uninformed folks buy the wrong offset and widths, wrong tire size making their cool car look like crap.


Some of us base owners dont mind :(

kenchan 12-14-2010 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 850906)
Some of us base owners dont mind :(

yah, base 18's i think it is worth upgrading to the sport package 19's or another set of 19's. but if you're planning on getting some XXR's or some garbage, stick with your 18's and run some spacers.

JayYoon 12-16-2010 05:47 AM

i am so happy that i didnt buy these ^_^;;

kenchan 12-16-2010 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayYoon (Post 853103)
i am so happy that i didnt buy these ^_^;;

YOU'RE WELCOME!!! :icon18: :tup:

TongMan 12-28-2010 06:39 AM

I have no problem with owners buying replica wheels for a much cheaper price. I just can't justify spending 2-5k on a set of rims. I say buy the xxr if you like it, the only people that hate on them are just trying to justify their purchase.

Keep in mind when you need to replace 1, 2, or 3 wheels. Ouch!

Chris_1 12-28-2010 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 868701)
I have no problem with owners buying replica wheels for a much cheaper price. I just can't justify spending 2-5k on a set of rims. I say buy the xxr if you like it, the only people that hate on them are just trying to justify their purchase.

Keep in mind when you need to replace 1, 2, or 3 wheels. Ouch!

Yeah, but replacing a cast wheel also stinks, I cant begin to tell you how many calls I get of people looking for discontinued cheap wheels like this. These manufacturers discontinue designs like I change underwear these days.

To me Volk and advan are great, but they have moved out of the price range that made them great. A TE37 is over 3k these days, and I would rather have a 3 piece wheel for that, WHY you ask? Well b/c if I ever damage that wheel, it wont cost me an arm and a leg to fix it, I can just order the damaged lip or barrel and put it on. They are many reputable cast wheel companies out their, but I wouldnt put XXR on my Z.

kenchan 12-28-2010 02:44 PM

If you can't tell the difference by all means get the cheap wheels.:ugh2:

Waiz 12-28-2010 02:59 PM

Disaster averted!!

If you can't afford quality NEW wheels just paint your stocks or look around for used sets.

Svre46 01-01-2011 05:47 PM

They had a good looking Z at SEMA.

Sema Show 2009 XXR Nissan 370Z Photo 71

Liquid_G 01-01-2011 06:22 PM

^ that thing is hideous

370zHawaii 01-02-2011 05:25 AM

To the op, I dont know if you are in the mainlaind (U.S.), I am out here in Hawaii and everything is marked up because of importing exporting tax, shipping , etc etc, But if you have patience you can find a sweet deal on the forum or locally, I found a set of 5 month old babied Volk GTF's for 27 without tires of course, and I offered the guy 2K cash he accepted, problem is he is always at work...dam dam...so just give it time and maybe you can score a good deal, good luck to you. :tiphat:
P.S. check craigs for wheels and research how to check the authencity of quality wheels before buying used.

CATCHINZZZS 01-24-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svre46 (Post 876080)
They had a good looking Z at SEMA.

Sema Show 2009 XXR Nissan 370Z Photo 71

BLAAAA not really feeling it..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid_G (Post 876147)
^ that thing is hideous

:iagree::iagree:
Actually their 522 looks good have a concave look. Comes in black and black chrome..

SuperZeto 12-23-2011 06:44 PM

I don't really enjoy paying up the *** for wheels so XXR's will work for me! I also think they look good and thats all that matters in my book. :)

TongMan 12-23-2011 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CATCHINZZZS (Post 909788)
Actually their 522 looks good have a concave look. Comes in black and black chrome..

The 522's are nice wheels. Comes in flat black, gold, and chrome black.


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