Spacers on stock Z?
 

Curious to see if anyone has seen or tried spacers yet for the stock 19" wheels. Pushing them out to sit more flush, and a bit of a drop would look fantastic IMO.

Yeah man, I'm with you. :tup:

Def.....curious to see that done!

im sure someone will do it.. il do it for you and post pics if you buy the spacers ;)

I believe this is what we want.

Kics Wheel Spacer - 5 x 114.3 / 20mm

Just make sure you switch to longer wheel studs before throwing spacers on.

^^ Shouldn't be necessary.

"Kics Project Wheel Spacers are sold in a pair (2 spacers).
Does not require changing of longer studs, these spacers come with studs on itself."

Very necessary in my opinion. I ordered a set of those Kics spacers for my old Evo 8 and when they came in, I was shocked they would even sell such a thing. The nuts that held the spacer to the hub had a whopping four threads on them. Its up to you what you want to do, but I am definately not comfortable driving around with lug nuts that only have four threads. I ended up getting extended studs, pounding the studs out of the Kics spacers, and just using the spacer part.

^^ Thanks for the warning! I've never used these before -- yeah 4 threads definitely isn't going to cut it. And really, I posted the link only because I was trying to help point others in the right direction. I'm personally inclined to just leave well enough alone for the time being. Again, thanks for the warning. I wonder what on earth they're thinking. Hmm...looking at the design, could it be that having short studs connecting the spacer to the hub is the only way to make the nuts fit in flush with the spacer?

No problem. The only thing I can think of is that show car guys might put them on at a show to make their wheels more flush.

That's exactly the case.

I do think they they are excellent quality spacers once you knock the studs out and use them with extended studs. They are hubcentric, fairly lightweight once you remove the studs, and are great quality. I used them on my old Evo 8, my current Evo IX, and my time attack 350Z. :)

What thickness were/are the spacers you've used? Because I'm thinking that the thicker the spacer, the longer the included studs would be, right? Like with a 5mm spacer, there'd probably be hardly any thread. But with a 20mm spacer, there might be enough. *sigh* I'm probably going to end up ordering a set now just to satisfy my own curiosity. :rolleyes:

I was using 10mm spacers. 5mm on the 350Z. I would still order them for sure, I have not found better quality spacers. Just use your judgment on how you mount them.

P.S. - Let me know if you want a price quote on them. :)

PM'ing you now. :)

Okay guys, I just ordered a set of 20mm spacers from DD. I'll be sure to post before and after pics when I get them in.

cool, I was going to order a set of the H&R 10mm, so looks like I'll wait and see how your 20mm spacers fit :tup:

DD, any experience with the H&R spacers? They have always made a quality product and meet TUV and iso9001standards. They have quite a few different styles.
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Are you doing 20 all around or just in the rear?

No, I don't have any experience with the H&R.

So, I was wondering how does the spacers effect the car in the long run? Could it do damage if you were to take it on a course?:confused:

spacers will not damage anything if installed correctly.. but always make sure there is enough thread left.. ect ect.. to me.. 20mm sounds on the high side.. you may have vibration issues at high speed..

All around.

Enough thread on what? These spacers come with their own studs, so there shouldn't be any change in the amount of thread that the wheels mount on to. The spacers themselves mount onto the stock studs. Of course, if for some reason I decide not mount them onto the hub and use them as a direct pass-through spacer, I'd knock out the stock studs and replace them with longer, high-strength, ones -- precisely to ensure there's enough thread. In any case, I've decided to play it a little safer and go with 15mm instead. I want to avoid the 'skateboard' look.

Looking forward to the before and after pics on those!

FYI, DD can't get a hold of the Kics spacers in 15mm, so I'm exploring other options right now.

I would love to see pics as well. I have been thinking about this too.

I have always recommended the H&R TRAK+ wheel spacers. They come in different widths according to your needs. They also come with extended wheel studs necessary for a proper and safe fitment.

Here's a link to their product page:
H&R TRAK+® Wheel Spacers || Products || H&R Special Springs, LP

Go check them out. The DR series doesn't come with extended studs, but the other ones do I believe. Just read the description and it tells you if it does or not.

:tup:

How is that any different from the Project Kics or Ichiba spacers? They too come in different widths with extended wheel studs. I have two sets of the Ichibas coming in today. Will post pics after installed.

15MM Aluminum Bolt-On Wheel Spacers

Btw, I took a look at the H&R's before. If you look at their product line carefully, it appears that they only have two series that come with their own wheel studs -- the "Trak+ Adapers" and the "DRM" series. For the former, it states "Available in thicknesses ranging from 20mm to 25mm," and for the latter, "40 - 90 mm track widening." Point being, if you want to go below 20mm (I decided to go with 15mm), you have to go with something like their DR series, which does not come with its own wheel studs.

DR Series
10 - 40 mm track widening
DR Series spacers fit between the wheel and hub, and require longer wheel bolts (ordered separately). Please verify bolt specifics before ordering (taper or round bolt head and shaft length).

So you'd have to purchase longer studs separately, hammer out the stock studs and install the new ones in order to use these.

nice, thanks for helping us to see how is it.

Oh. I recommended H&R spacers as an alternative to the ones that were mentioned already in the thread. It's just another option for anyone looking at spacers. I haven't used the Project Kics or the Ichiba ones, so I wouldn't know.

I shall go hide in my corner now. :koolaidwall:

The spacers are a no-go. :crying:

I installed one on the front driver's side. I was even taking pictures every step of the way so that I could provide step-by-step instructions. Then when I went to mount the wheel back on, lo and behold, it wouldn't go in all the way. If you look at the second and third picture below, you will see that the way these are designed, the stock wheel studs stick out a bit. Now, this normally isn't a problem, because the nubs just go into the spaces/slots in between the holes on the back of the wheel (see fourth pic). Well guess what? Those slots in between the holes aren't cut low enough. The nubs from the stock wheel studs can't clear them! Take a close look at the last picture. To figure out what was going on, I laid the wheel down flat on the ground, then placed a spacer on top. The spacer's wheel studs are in through the holes of the wheel. The holes you see in the picture are where the nubs of the stock wheel studs would go through. You can see through the holes that they're about halfway blocked by the bottoms of the slots. Way to go, Nissan!

I have three options: (1) take a grinder and grind out the bottoms of those slots just enough for the nubs to clear; (2) knock the studs out of spacers, knock the stock studs out of the wheel hubs, then install extra length studs back into the wheel hubs and pass them through the spacers; or (3) say screw it and return the spacers. I'm going with option 3. Option 1, grinding the stock wheels, just doesn't sound like a great idea to me. And option 2 would defeat the whole purpose of getting spacers of this design. If I wanted to change out the stock studs for extra length ones, it'd make more sense to go with the H&R DR series.

Well, I'm sorry it didn't work out. I know a lot of you were eager to see how the car would look with the wheels pushed out a bit. But at least this will save the rest of you a bunch of time and hassle. I've taken one for the team! (And you may thank me with rep points. ;))

That sucks man. Thanks for trying though. At least now everyone knows that they will have to go with extended studs and conventional spacers to push the stockers out a bit.

Aaaaw man, sorry to hear you went through the trouble. Yeah I agree, return the spacers. At least we all know now not to get that kind. ;)

Thanks for trying.

Sorry it didn't work out, I gave you some rep points though :tup:

Question, do you think if the spacers were 20mm that it would have worked?
Maybe less of the stock lug sticking out of the spacer.

Also, from your experience, do you think we could install a standard 5mm or 8mm spacer and not have to put longer studs in, would there be enough of the stock threads ??
Something like this: http://www.futrellautowerks.com/HR-D...r-Set-P49.aspx

Thanks ;-)

Braden

I don't think 20mm spacers would have worked, because the length of the nubs sticking out exceed 5mm. It was closer to a full cm, so at a minimum you'd need 25mm spacers to even have a shot at the nubs not protruding. But at 25mm, it'd probably look bizarre -- what I call the 'skateboard effect'. Regarding the 5-8mm spacers, I would think that there'd still be enough thread. The question is whether or not that's enough to make a satisfactory difference (I guess there's only one way to find out, right?). I think as long as you're able to properly torque the lug nuts down (the manual spec says 80 ft-lbs.), you'll be okay. But use your judgment. Put at least one lug nut back on by hand to get a sense of how much thread you're working with. And I'd also recommend re-checking the torque on them after driving around for, say, 50 miles to make sure they didn't start to back out on their own. In fact, if you decide to do this, I'd recommend that you torque the lug nuts to 90 ft-lbs., just for a little extra insurance.

thanks for the info!

I may try the H&R DRS spacers. I will probably go with the 5mm on each side on the rear only because I only want the wheels to stick out a little more.

These spacers are hubcentric and you replace the existing wheel studs with longer ones, so the spacer is just in between instead of the spacer attached to hub and wheel attached to spacer.

http://store.allsprings.com/shared/S...llsprings&All=

If the link does not take you directly there go to nissan 350Z and then to wheel spacers and then to the DRS version.

^^ Cool...can't wait to see the outcome.

My buddy had that problem on his car(non 370Z) he order the ones without the studs and got extended studs.

I wanted to see it done with the sport wheels. I think those wheels fit the car great. Thanks for trying.

Chris

Any updates on this topic? Has anyone successfully done it yet?

it's your bad for not going with H&R's btw. just plug those in, one problem you might run into is the stock bolts might be too short, so buy those as well from H&R. spacers arent really rocket science!

After all im not a fan of spacers over 15 mm's. just wont look as great. but definitely beat the stock tucked-in look

I deliberately didn't go with H&R because I don't want to put in extended studs and then have studs that are too long, should I decide to remove the spacers for some reason. That's not my bad, that's my choice.