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FPenvy 02-20-2015 12:29 PM

RE-71R - the RE-11 replacement.
 
the RE-11 which I recently fell in love with is being replaced (still being produced though) by the new RE-71R. I guess its a remake of the old oem tire developed for the Porsche 959.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Potenza+RE-71R

I've been trying to find info on them but most places say they wont have any in until march 1st at the earliest.

I found a 3 part youtube vid with the creator.

part 1
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part 2
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part3
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I was thinking about trying these but the biggest they are available in are 275/35/19 our OEM sizes. I wanted to continue running my 265/305 setup I recently switched to.

anyone have ideas or opinions on this new tire?

just figured id post to get some general discussion going about them.

theDreamer 02-20-2015 12:32 PM

No 305?

I just re-did my fronts with RE-11 so hopefully in a year or so when I do all 4 at the same time either the RE-11 is still around or this new model can cover the full RE-11 line.

theDreamer 02-20-2015 12:33 PM

Looking at photos, these look like they are directional and can be swapped left/right to help last a little longer.

FPenvy 02-20-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3117734)
No 305?

I just re-did my fronts with RE-11 so hopefully in a year or so when I do all 4 at the same time either the RE-11 is still around or this new model can cover the full RE-11 line.

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3117737)
Looking at photos, these look like they are directional and can be swapped left/right to help last a little longer.

no 305 sadly. and I have RE-11s all 4 corners and I love them. I was happy to hear they are still producing them but I don't know for how long.

my hope is that the RE-71R does well and next year they expand the size range. i'd like to try them in 265/305 combo

Shotta 02-20-2015 01:43 PM

I posted asking about them a couple of weeks ago and found a video where the pictures say a thousand words since I dont speak Japanese.
http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...es-anyone.html

I will be putting them on my car as soon as they are available though. The specs look amazing.

FPenvy 02-20-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotta (Post 3117826)
I posted asking about them a couple of weeks ago and found a video where the pictures say a thousand words since I dont speak Japanese.
http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...es-anyone.html

I will be putting them on my car as soon as they are available though. The specs look amazing.

the videos I linked above are translated into English. probably the same ones you saw originally.

I would buy them if they had the sizes I wanted.

I really like the prices well that's comparing 245/275 RE-71 vs 265/305 RE-11 but it's only a $90 difference.

JARblue 02-20-2015 01:52 PM

I've got a spare set of sport rims. Maybe I should just run a square set up with rears and 275 tires :tup:

FPenvy 02-20-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3117841)
I've got a spare set of sport rims. Maybe I should just run a square set up with rears and 275 tires :tup:

squared up all 275s of these could be a pretty damn sticky track setup

:stirthepot:

Shotta 02-20-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3117845)
squared up all 275s of these could be a pretty damn sticky track setup

:stirthepot:

If the tires are as sticky as they say they are than that extra width and weight of a wider tire may not be necessary.

I just run stock sizes as I'm NA and no where near reaching the performance grip limits of the tires on corners. I have spun out on a corner a few times in the past but I don't do that anymore.

FPenvy 02-20-2015 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotta (Post 3117902)
If the tires are as sticky as they say they are than that extra width and weight of a wider tire may not be necessary.

I just run stock sizes as I'm NA and no where near reaching the performance grip limits of the tires on corners. I have spun out on a corner a few times in the past but I don't do that anymore.

but stickier and wider = :yum: lol

i'm NA as well and there was a noticeable difference in the grip when going slightly wider with my tire selection.

abm89 02-23-2015 02:05 PM

They should be available now.

http://i.imgur.com/hQPtmWn.png

I might give them a try since I'll be ordering wheels soon.

FPenvy 02-23-2015 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89 (Post 3120013)
They should be available now.

http://i.imgur.com/hQPtmWn.png

I might give them a try since I'll be ordering wheels soon.

if they came in 305s then i would be buying them too.

abm89 02-23-2015 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3120017)
if they came in 305s then i would be buying them too.

have fun waiting :tup:

FPenvy 02-23-2015 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89 (Post 3120029)
have fun waiting :tup:

if it sells well then next year the size range will most likely expand.

for now i'll just stick with RE-11s

speedfreek 02-23-2015 02:25 PM

The design looks alot like the Dunlop Direzza ZII.

FPenvy 02-23-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 3120040)
The design looks alot like the Dunlop Direzza ZII.

yea they do look quite similar.

abm89 02-23-2015 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 3120040)
The design looks alot like the Dunlop Direzza ZII.


My thoughts as well. I'm hoping these will yield similar lateral grip levels while being able to sustain the weight of the Z.

The Star Specs aren't that great on heavy cars.


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FPenvy 02-23-2015 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89 (Post 3120045)
My thoughts as well. I'm hoping these will yield similar lateral grip levels while being able to sustain the weight of the Z.

The Star Specs aren't that great on heavy cars.


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well if you want to or know how to speak Japanese here you go.

POTENZA史上最速のストリートラジアル 「POTENZA RE-71R」新発売 | ニュースリリース | *式会社ブリヂストン

but from what i can tell these are a step above the RE-11 from the test graphs and numbers. as well as in a video i saw they were running them on a GT-R R34 and it was tearing the track up.

the creator said the best part about the tires are that they give the grip of a track tire but do not need to be heated to a high temp to get that grip.

speedfreek 02-23-2015 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89 (Post 3120045)
My thoughts as well. I'm hoping these will yield similar lateral grip levels while being able to sustain the weight of the Z.

The Star Specs aren't that great on heavy cars.


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That is why I am not as super excited as most. The RE-11's worked great on the Z's cuz of the beefy shoulder blocks which get laid down in the turns.

These might get chewed up on ours just like the Star Specs. Maybe a new improved compound will yield different/better results.

Mitco39 02-23-2015 02:33 PM

Im late to the game here... but I will be very sad if the Re11's go away. They are the only tire I have been running for years. Go through one set a season. lol

FPenvy 02-23-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 3120051)
Im late to the game here... but I will be very sad if the Re11's go away. They are the only tire I have been running for years. Go through one set a season. lol

from what i understand they will still be produced but i don't know for how long. i'm with you especially if they don't expand the sizes of the new RE-71.

this past year was my first set of RE-11s and im sad i didn't use them sooner.

abm89 02-23-2015 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 3120049)
That is why I am not as super excited as most. The RE-11's worked great on the Z's cuz of the beefy shoulder blocks which get laid down in the turns.



These might get chewed up on ours just like the Star Specs. Maybe a new improved compound will yield different/better results.


This should make for an interesting year. I plan on using these for DD and track, haha.




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PharmDZ 03-01-2015 04:36 PM

For anyone on the stock sport rays I really recommend the 275/35 square setup. I run hankook rs3's in this size and it really transformed the handling of the car without even adjusting any suspension dynamics.

FPenvy 03-02-2015 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PharmDZ (Post 3125473)
For anyone on the stock sport rays I really recommend the 275/35 square setup. I run hankook rs3's in this size and it really transformed the handling of the car without even adjusting any suspension dynamics.

those tires are just subpar compared to a RE-11 or PSS's in my opinion.

also in their class they had the lowest handling rating of the tires tested.

PharmDZ 03-02-2015 09:04 AM

Yet they've been used by tons of national competitive autocross guys to win events? I mean, it depends on how you're comparing them. Overall when you add comfort, road noise, etc they may not be the best. When you're talking overall dry grip, the RS3 is incredible. The RE-11 from what I've been told has always had excellent dry grip, although not quite as good as the RS3, but with better overall road manners.

abm89 03-02-2015 12:46 PM

RS3s have substantially more lateral grip than the PSS and more than the RE11 when they are up to temperature. The PSS isn't in the same league of track performance and ability to withstand high temperatures.


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abm89 03-02-2015 12:49 PM

And for an update, I wasn't going to get the RE71 in time so I settled for RE11.

Track sizes have limited availability during this time of year.


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FPenvy 03-02-2015 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89 (Post 3126121)
RS3s have substantially more lateral grip than the PSS and more than the RE11 when they are up to temperature. The PSS isn't in the same league of track performance and ability to withstand high temperatures.


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as much as I loved the PSS's the heat wanst it's friend nor was the sidewall strength.

got real worried on the dragon when I felt the should of my one front tire roll when diving into a big turn.

sidenote: I was thinking of the V12 tires. those blow donkey balls. the RS3 V2 different story.

kenchan 03-02-2015 02:55 PM

that article doesnt specifically say that they are RE11 replacements.
they state the re71r's are made for dry traction and achieves improved lap times by improving lateral hold during high speed cornering vs RE11's.

RE11's work well in dry or wet conditions.

dat said, RE71R are not replacements for RE11A's... so i thinks. so i hopes... :ugh:

kenchan 03-02-2015 02:57 PM

plus, i never liked running non-asymmetric tires on cars like the Z and G where there is large amounts of programmed negative camber by design.


not that i have any say to wat ishibashi-san wants to do. :ugh:

FPenvy 03-02-2015 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3126231)
that article doesnt specifically say that they are RE11 replacements.
they state the re71r's are made for dry traction and achieves improved lap times by improving lateral hold during high speed cornering vs RE11's.

RE11's work well in dry or wet conditions.

dat said, RE71R are not replacements for RE11A's... so i thinks. so i hopes... :ugh:

RE-11A? what car you putting those little girly tires on? lol

kenchan 03-02-2015 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3126236)
RE-11A? what car you putting those little girly tires on? lol

wat those come in pink? :nutswinger:

FPenvy 03-02-2015 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3126240)
wat those come in pink? :nutswinger:

no but they don't come in anything bigger than a 18 lol

abm89 03-02-2015 03:24 PM

18 inch master race.


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FPenvy 03-02-2015 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89 (Post 3126246)
18 inch master race.


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base (bitch) model status :stirthepot:

:bowrofl:

abm89 03-02-2015 03:27 PM

More tires available, Lighter weight, and Less money spent on tires.

Stay on the exhaust threads.


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FPenvy 03-02-2015 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89 (Post 3126250)
More tires available, Lighter weight, and Less money spent on tires.

Stay on the exhaust threads.


Sent from my phone

:facepalm:

yes we all know (or should) those facts about 18" wheels. I was making a joke. relax your sphincter or i'll go in dry.

plus it's my thread anyways so I will not got out lol

abm89 03-02-2015 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3126253)
:facepalm:

yes we all know (or should) those facts about 18" wheels. I was making a joke. relax your sphincter or i'll go in dry.

plus it's my thread anyways so I will not got out lol

Just stirring the pot the other way.

No unsolicited homosexual advances needed.

FPenvy 03-02-2015 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89 (Post 3126261)
Just stirring the pot the other way.

No unsolicited homosexual advances needed.

but that's what the forum is for though. you must be in the wrong place.

kenchan 03-02-2015 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3126245)
no but they don't come in anything bigger than a 18 lol

lol, u seem to have some sort of fixation with size. :icon18:


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