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I have a question that maybe someone can help me with. I bought the Stillen SC kit and with it was the Uprev cable and CD. When the installer tuned

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Old 12-05-2014, 12:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a question that maybe someone can help me with.

I bought the Stillen SC kit and with it was the Uprev cable and CD. When the installer tuned it I paid $400. A few months later I took the car to Uprev and paid another $500 or so for tune. The question is, somewhere along the way, did I pay for an Osiris license? If I connect my laptop to the ecu via the Uprev cable, shouldn't I be able to manipulate the tune? I don't event think the logging functionality is there. What is good is the cable to me??
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No you would because the cable is different. I have Osiris and I can only flash and log, I can't tune or anything you would have to buy the tuner version I think. If you paid a tuner $400 to tune it then paid $500 to tune it again someone took your $$. The first time you pay for the license and tune you good to go and any tune can retune the car you just pay for the tuners time and dyno usually like $250-300.
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Ok, logging and monitoring is done in Cipher, which i have. The only option I see in Osiris is "Return ECU to stock" How would one go about downloading the tune ROM that is on the ECU?
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Dude i think u payed 400 and 500 is for someones time to tune ur car which is a decent price for a fi tune, but the cable probably only lets u read engine codes.
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it was pointless that you paid 400 for cable if you were gonna get a protuned. you could have got the regular chiper cable for logging and DTC and BCM control.

once your car has been tuned you can not view the vendors/protunes
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Ok, logging and monitoring is done in Cipher, which i have. The only option I see in Osiris is "Return ECU to stock" How would one go about downloading the tune ROM that is on the ECU?
Osiris only lets you manage your tune unless you have the tuner version. By manage I mean you can flash it back to stock or upload a new tune file sent to you by your tuner. You cannot pull the 'tune' file off the ECU. More than likely UpRev locked their tune file so you wouldn't even be able to manipulate it even if you had the tuner version.

I use my cable mostly for checking codes and monitoring/logging other parameters when I'm cruising around.

Question - Why did you take the Dragon to UpRev and have it retuned?
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Well, you may agree that tuning is not a cut and dry process but more of an art, and all cars are different. Having intimate knowledge of the software helps too. So my thought was, since UPREV designed the software, UPREV would be most capable tuning the car to its full potential without compromising reliability.
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Well, you may agree that tuning is not a cut and dry process but more of an art, and all cars are different. Having intimate knowledge of the software helps too. So my thought was, since UPREV designed the software, UPREV would be most capable tuning the car to its full potential without compromising reliability.
Fair enough. Not to mention that the Stillen kit has it's own quirks.
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In theory, each time you paid for a tuner's time. That tuner will have a cable that can both datalog and manipulate ROM files. The cable you have, however, is only capable of datalogging (which is not a useless power -- see below) and flashing ROMs to your ECU.

You can record datalogs of specific parameters under different driving conditions and send the logs to a tuners for an "e-tuned" ROM. Then you could flash that newly tuned ROM to your ECU.

Datalogging (if you know how to read the logs) is also very useful for troubleshooting problems. You can use the cable for reading and clearing CEL codes too.

Unless you know how to tune a car and are at least somewhat familiar with the Uprev software, you don't really need a tuner cable.
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