E85 and a 370Z

Kastley85891 · 11-08-2009, 09:50 AM

Any one done this yet....?
Once I start to log and see what current IDC's are I think if I have the headroom I will attempt the conversion, I see that already fuel system upgrades are avaliable in terms of pump,rails,injectors etc, but if possible with a 'stockish N/A' Z I may be able to get one on corn with out changing out too much.
Any one got any in put on running E85 with the Nissan motor?

I have completed the conversion on a few turbo charged vehicles but never on a V platform so think this would make a nice little project and give a nice little TRQ gain, and off course a few ponies.

Lower combustion temps, higher knock threashold, better octane and GREEN, + cheaper then race gas.

Cheers Fellas

Kastley85891 · 11-08-2009, 08:29 PM

No one yet, guess Ill be finding out ;-)

Brazilbro · 11-08-2009, 10:50 PM

I also want to do this, let me know how it go's

kannibul · 11-08-2009, 11:16 PM

Is there an E85 super-unleaded?

Even then, that stuff tends to eat anything not stainless steel...so...not happening.

That, and E85 isn't any better for the environment than dino-gas.

Kastley85891 · 11-08-2009, 11:31 PM

I am talking about running 100% E85 not pump with Ethanol additive.
E85 does not eat everything non stainless - I have run it with no adverse effects on a 'modern' motor, have many friends who are running it now and can point to many many cars who run it daily and at the track E85 100% in your tank is better for the enviroment then regular pump.
Do some research, not trying to 'bitch ' comment but really look it up.

BrazilBro - I will for sure post up when I convert, its not a big deal if the stock injectors have the headroom, if not enough spare IDC it will take longer as I will have to save for FP,FPR and injectors. The added timing avaliable and the leaner burn SHOULD yield good results.

KingDavid · 11-08-2009, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul

Is there an E85 super-unleaded?

Even then, that stuff tends to eat anything not stainless steel...so...not happening.

That, and E85 isn't any better for the environment than dino-gas.

Hm, how do you think all those Evo's and Civic's and such switch to E85? They change up the fuel system. All fuel lines are replaced with stainless steel line and then tuned. Also, you're misinformed about E85 not being better for the environment than gasoline. Either that or you know something I don't about it.

Kastley85891 · 11-08-2009, 11:44 PM

Just a side note , Any one on here going to turbo charge there Z and doing the fuel system anyway, go for the big injectors and go straight to E85 (providing its avaliable) works amazing on Turbo cars, tuners dream...

Brazilbro · 11-09-2009, 12:54 AM

I had an evo and to run E85 all we do is upgrade the injectors and fuel pump.. thats it. and a flashed ECU.
Could care less about the enviroment. I just like cheap 100oct cool running gas

LiquidZ · 11-09-2009, 08:54 AM

I think this will be a fun little kit for anybody running FI.

Kastley85891 · 11-09-2009, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazilbro

I had an evo and to run E85 all we do is upgrade the injectors and fuel pump.. thats it. and a flashed ECU.
Could care less about the enviroment. I just like cheap 100oct cool running gas

Nice, they sure do rip on the corn

LiquidZ - for sure, FI and E85 on this motor would be special, see ya GTR

If anyone is interested here are my fuel and timing targets from my last E85 ROM (FI motor) yes you can push the timing and run pretty lean in terms of target fuel (this rom was tuned for an AFR relative LAMBDA for ease of tuning with WBo2)

shabarivas · 11-09-2009, 10:48 AM

**** e85... but... you def will need new injectors...

feelzpwr91 · 11-09-2009, 10:53 AM

how high would the perks be on E85?

Kastley85891 · 11-09-2009, 11:25 AM

E85 would be cleaner burning ,cooler burning and give some gain even on N/A Z set up, how ever with FI you would see a great benefit over pump, the reason for larger injector etc is that you will need to actually flow 25-30% more volume to actually meet desired AFR target, from experience you obviously get less MPG but you fill up for less, c to mile it worked out about the same as pump on my previous ride, I love the smoothness of E, timing curves can be really set up nicely.

shabarivas · 11-09-2009, 12:38 PM

yea yea... lol i know it shows a lot of results... I just dont like corn

Kastley85891 · 11-09-2009, 01:05 PM

Ha ha - good enough - it does have some negatives... cold start can take some tweaking, it smells if running catless pipes, and hard to get some times.

Not the great answer to all for sure, I am just interested to learn a new platform.
Got to get my 'man' time away from the usual BS.lol

11-08-2009, 09:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 17	E85 and a 370Z Any one done this yet....? Once I start to log and see what current IDC's are I think if I have the headroom I will attempt the conversion, I see that already fuel system upgrades are avaliable in terms of pump,rails,injectors etc, but if possible with a 'stockish N/A' Z I may be able to get one on corn with out changing out too much. Any one got any in put on running E85 with the Nissan motor? I have completed the conversion on a few turbo charged vehicles but never on a V platform so think this would make a nice little project and give a nice little TRQ gain, and off course a few ponies. Lower combustion temps, higher knock threashold, better octane and GREEN, + cheaper then race gas. Cheers Fellas

11-08-2009, 11:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 17	I am talking about running 100% E85 not pump with Ethanol additive. E85 does not eat everything non stainless - I have run it with no adverse effects on a 'modern' motor, have many friends who are running it now and can point to many many cars who run it daily and at the track E85 100% in your tank is better for the enviroment then regular pump. Do some research, not trying to 'bitch ' comment but really look it up. BrazilBro - I will for sure post up when I convert, its not a big deal if the stock injectors have the headroom, if not enough spare IDC it will take longer as I will have to save for FP,FPR and injectors. The added timing avaliable and the leaner burn SHOULD yield good results. Last edited by Kastley85891; 11-08-2009 at 11:35 PM.

11-09-2009, 08:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 704	I think this will be a fun little kit for anybody running FI. __________________

11-08-2009, 08:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 17	No one yet, guess Ill be finding out ;-)

11-08-2009, 10:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 848	I also want to do this, let me know how it go's

11-08-2009, 11:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
kannibul A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jenks, OK Posts: 2,281 Drives: 370z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 266	Is there an E85 super-unleaded? Even then, that stuff tends to eat anything not stainless steel...so...not happening. That, and E85 isn't any better for the environment than dino-gas.

11-08-2009, 11:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 17	Just a side note , Any one on here going to turbo charge there Z and doing the fuel system anyway, go for the big injectors and go straight to E85 (providing its avaliable) works amazing on Turbo cars, tuners dream...

11-09-2009, 12:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 848	I had an evo and to run E85 all we do is upgrade the injectors and fuel pump.. thats it. and a flashed ECU. Could care less about the enviroment. I just like cheap 100oct cool running gas

11-09-2009, 10:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	**** e85... but... you def will need new injectors...

11-09-2009, 10:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
feelzpwr91 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RVA Posts: 311 Drives: 09 Black370z T M6 Rep Power: 196	how high would the perks be on E85?

11-09-2009, 11:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 17	E85 would be cleaner burning ,cooler burning and give some gain even on N/A Z set up, how ever with FI you would see a great benefit over pump, the reason for larger injector etc is that you will need to actually flow 25-30% more volume to actually meet desired AFR target, from experience you obviously get less MPG but you fill up for less, c to mile it worked out about the same as pump on my previous ride, I love the smoothness of E, timing curves can be really set up nicely.

11-09-2009, 12:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	yea yea... lol i know it shows a lot of results... I just dont like corn

11-09-2009, 01:05 PM	#15 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 17	Ha ha - good enough - it does have some negatives... cold start can take some tweaking, it smells if running catless pipes, and hard to get some times. Not the great answer to all for sure, I am just interested to learn a new platform. Got to get my 'man' time away from the usual BS.lol