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Rangerz 08-13-2013 09:13 PM

Tuning software overload
 
I'm very interested in a tune and have read numerous posts and anything I can find on the internet which mostly refers me back here.

I have FI CBE and HFC s on the way and already have K&N drop in installed. I also have FI in mind but, that won't be for sometime. I do have access to a dyno but, figured most of the tuning will be remote tune with me flashing the ECU ect...

What I'm looking for is for my Z to be at the highest performance level with what I have and still have high reliability.

I will be tracking the car occasionaly and have decided upRev and ecuTek look to be the best options.

Any input from those with experiance with either tuning suite is much appreciated.

Thanks

seymore4 08-15-2013 10:41 AM

Boils down to Uprev, which has been around and reliably tuning 370z's for years, or ECUtek, which just came out with 370z software and claims to be better than Uprev, but with no objective proof, and half the promised features "coming soon"

Dynotronics1 08-15-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by seymore4 (Post 2447175)
Boils down to Uprev, which has been around and reliably tuning 370z's for years, or ECUtek, which just came out with 370z software and claims to be better than Uprev, but with no objective proof, and half the promised features "coming soon"

Not really; it boils down to the old standby, or the new technology. Yes Ecutek does not have all of the features right this minute, but for those of us who have tuned with both platforms, there is really no question.

You can get exactly the same results from both suites, but the getting it done is far easier, and more repeatable with EcuTek.

seymore4 08-15-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2447695)
Not really; it boils down to the old standby, or the new technology. Yes Ecutek does not have all of the features right this minute, but for those of us who have tuned with both platforms, there is really no question.

You can get exactly the same results from both suites, but the getting it done is far easier, and more repeatable with EcuTek.

I've seen plenty of 370z's tuned well with Uprev.. not sure how ecutek is more "repeatable"

Dynotronics1 08-15-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by seymore4 (Post 2447714)
I've seen plenty of 370z's tuned well with Uprev.. not sure how ecutek is more "repeatable"

Have you used ecutek's suite? Used Uprev? Its would be very difficult to explain the difference if you have not, and not required if you had.

Like I said, you can do the same with both software platforms, its just much much easier with Ecutek

elperuano 08-15-2013 06:24 PM

Well said Seymore.

I am still "waiting" for those updates add promised by EcuTek loooooong ago. So for now the only option out there that actually says and does as advertised is Osiris.

seymore4 08-15-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2447833)
Have you used ecutek's suite? Used Uprev? Its would be very difficult to explain the difference if you have not, and not required if you had.

Like I said, you can do the same with both software platforms, its just much much easier with Ecutek

I have not used ECUtek yet as I see no reason to spend thousands of dollars for a new, unproven system that does essentially the same thing as Uprev.. but with key features still "under development". I do have plenty of experience tuning with Uprev however and I do not see whats so hard about it.

xxAGAVExx 08-15-2013 06:48 PM

Subd. Won't need a tune for a few months, but optimistically awaiting more reviews of ECUtek 😃

Dynotronics1 08-15-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by seymore4 (Post 2447861)
I have not used ECUtek yet as I see no reason to spend thousands of dollars for a new, unproven system that does essentially the same thing as Uprev.. but with key features still "under development". I do have plenty of experience tuning with Uprev however and I do not see whats so hard about it.

No, the "key" features are the tuning tables. Map switching is sexy yes, but not a "key" feature.

And, no offence, but if you have not tried the two back to back, you have zero frame of reference. And as far as "unproven". But again, to each his own

seymore4 08-15-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2447880)
No, the "key" features are the tuning tables. Map switching is sexy yes, but not a "key" feature.

And, no offence, but if you have not tried the two back to back, you have zero frame of reference. And as far as "unproven". But again, to each his own

:drama::ugh2:

Baer383 08-15-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2447880)
And as far as "unproven". But again, to each his own

Either software can pull the same power out of a n/a car you guys are still "unproven" in the FI dept,I haven't seen 1 dyno sheet from you guys plus I tuned my own FI car by myself and it has more power than any SC kit on the fourm so I would'nt say Uprev is hard to use.:tiphat:

Japanjay 08-15-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2447695)
Not really; it boils down to the old standby, or the new technology. Yes Ecutek does not have all of the features right this minute, but for those of us who have tuned with both platforms, there is really no question.

You can get exactly the same results from both suites, but the getting it done is far easier, and more repeatable with EcuTek.

So since it is easier for the "tuner" to "tune", then I am assuming that price per tune is cheaper since it "shouldn't take as long, being that it is easier and easily repeatable"?

elperuano 08-15-2013 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Japanjay (Post 2448022)
So since it is easier for the "tuner" to "tune", then I am assuming that price per tune is cheaper since it "shouldn't take as long, being that it is easier and easily repeatable"?

You'd think eh?

Dynotronics1 08-15-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Japanjay (Post 2448022)
So since it is easier for the "tuner" to "tune", then I am assuming that price per tune is cheaper since it "shouldn't take as long, being that it is easier and easily repeatable"?

one of the reasons we offer a free lifetime update for your tuning

Dynotronics1 08-15-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2448007)
Either software can pull the same power out of a n/a car you guys are still "unproven" in the FI dept,I haven't seen 1 dyno sheet from you guys plus I tuned my own FI car by myself and it has more power than any SC kit on the fourm so I would'nt say Uprev is hard to use.:tiphat:

John has tuned several FI cars, so you would have to ask him for that. I have not done an FI car yet, so I can't post anything for you.

But all that said, if you had a chance to look at Uprev vs Ecutek you would understand what I am talking about.

No one is bad mouthing Uprev, so get the chips off your shoulders, guys. You act as if its a personal affront to you that something else came along in the tuning world.

Look at it like this, if you have uprev and your happy, then there ya go, stick with it, enjoy and be happy. We are not using it anymore, and have already moved several of our older customers over at no cost.


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