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Pretty sure im running nicely on ecutek and FI.

guise I'm still waiting for ur car to be fixed and then a real tune. What u got from EcuTek could have been achieved with Osiris. The numbers aren't screaming out yet that it's better than osiris. But still a sick build.

The numbers will only scream as much as the engine will allow it. Not necessarily the tune that will inhibit that end. Haltech nor Motec will prevent an over boosted engine from popping its top if the internals cant hold it.... I mean people are arguing over $500 software. I could see if you were comparing either of the previous two I listed to the two being argued over, but really come on. Almost any decent software can put down respected numbers. If you are not chasing the tune and can lock it down then why does a name matter? Or better yet racing for a profession and that 10th of a second means the difference of a $5k payout vs. a $20k payout, who cares? Your **** is fast and has as a safe tune, that is all that matters. Pick which ever one you want that is available in you town and run with it, both work.

All the features of the ecutek look appealing to me, but ultimately it's too cost prohibitive and restrictive for me. For the slight extras it has, it's not worth the much greater cost, nor losing the ability to tune the wherever, whenever I wish.

It's just like the old FCON situation with the 350z. Only special hks "pro dealers" could tune it, I was one of them, and the first to use it in the Z. For a brief moment it was the only good option for tuning high power to be reliable in the Z. People resisted it greatly and the moment there was another option, the FCON was immediately forgotten regardless of being a very powerful system even by today's standards. It inevitably becomes a nightmare for the customer. Leaving behind my pro dealership years ago, I still have old customers contacting me asking hopeless questions about how and where to get their car tuned... With no more pro dealers around, FCON users are left with no choice but to purchase a new standalone.

At this point, I am more likely to just pick up a used haltech for under a grand and get more features and be able to tune it myself without investing into being some authorized tuner, or having to get married to one of their dealers so i can tune my car and keep it tuned.

Im with you on that one but keep in mind a turbo the size of mine wont make huge numbers like the guys running the 6266 precisions. The fact im looking at 450whp on only 8lbs is ridiculous. The boost leak can be fixed in 5 seconds but John has been too busy to try and etune me.

Honestly just the fact John could get it running as well as he did WITH a boost leak(we could not find at the time :mad: ) should show enough for ecutek. I don't feel it would be as possible with uprev. Anyways the main reason to go ecutek is the upgrades. The fact that most of the tuners will remotely tune for the new features as they come out for no extra charge is awesome. Atleast I think that's the offer I saw being kicked around.

I'm getting tuned w/ UpRev tomorrow. I spoke to a few tuners that use ecutek, and they've said it's costly to get into. So unfortunately for me, I'll be using UpRev because I don't have an option and I don't want to drive too far for a tune.