Tuning software overload
 

I'm very interested in a tune and have read numerous posts and anything I can find on the internet which mostly refers me back here.

I have FI CBE and HFC s on the way and already have K&N drop in installed. I also have FI in mind but, that won't be for sometime. I do have access to a dyno but, figured most of the tuning will be remote tune with me flashing the ECU ect...

What I'm looking for is for my Z to be at the highest performance level with what I have and still have high reliability.

I will be tracking the car occasionaly and have decided upRev and ecuTek look to be the best options.

Any input from those with experiance with either tuning suite is much appreciated.

Thanks

Boils down to Uprev, which has been around and reliably tuning 370z's for years, or ECUtek, which just came out with 370z software and claims to be better than Uprev, but with no objective proof, and half the promised features "coming soon"

Not really; it boils down to the old standby, or the new technology. Yes Ecutek does not have all of the features right this minute, but for those of us who have tuned with both platforms, there is really no question.

You can get exactly the same results from both suites, but the getting it done is far easier, and more repeatable with EcuTek.

I've seen plenty of 370z's tuned well with Uprev.. not sure how ecutek is more "repeatable"

Have you used ecutek's suite? Used Uprev? Its would be very difficult to explain the difference if you have not, and not required if you had.

Like I said, you can do the same with both software platforms, its just much much easier with Ecutek

Well said Seymore.

I am still "waiting" for those updates add promised by EcuTek loooooong ago. So for now the only option out there that actually says and does as advertised is Osiris.

I have not used ECUtek yet as I see no reason to spend thousands of dollars for a new, unproven system that does essentially the same thing as Uprev.. but with key features still "under development". I do have plenty of experience tuning with Uprev however and I do not see whats so hard about it.

Subd. Won't need a tune for a few months, but optimistically awaiting more reviews of ECUtek 😃

No, the "key" features are the tuning tables. Map switching is sexy yes, but not a "key" feature.

And, no offence, but if you have not tried the two back to back, you have zero frame of reference. And as far as "unproven". But again, to each his own

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Either software can pull the same power out of a n/a car you guys are still "unproven" in the FI dept,I haven't seen 1 dyno sheet from you guys plus I tuned my own FI car by myself and it has more power than any SC kit on the fourm so I would'nt say Uprev is hard to use.:tiphat:

So since it is easier for the "tuner" to "tune", then I am assuming that price per tune is cheaper since it "shouldn't take as long, being that it is easier and easily repeatable"?

You'd think eh?

one of the reasons we offer a free lifetime update for your tuning

John has tuned several FI cars, so you would have to ask him for that. I have not done an FI car yet, so I can't post anything for you.

But all that said, if you had a chance to look at Uprev vs Ecutek you would understand what I am talking about.

No one is bad mouthing Uprev, so get the chips off your shoulders, guys. You act as if its a personal affront to you that something else came along in the tuning world.

Look at it like this, if you have uprev and your happy, then there ya go, stick with it, enjoy and be happy. We are not using it anymore, and have already moved several of our older customers over at no cost.

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Pretty sure im running nicely on ecutek and FI.

guise I'm still waiting for ur car to be fixed and then a real tune. What u got from EcuTek could have been achieved with Osiris. The numbers aren't screaming out yet that it's better than osiris. But still a sick build.

The numbers will only scream as much as the engine will allow it. Not necessarily the tune that will inhibit that end. Haltech nor Motec will prevent an over boosted engine from popping its top if the internals cant hold it.... I mean people are arguing over $500 software. I could see if you were comparing either of the previous two I listed to the two being argued over, but really come on. Almost any decent software can put down respected numbers. If you are not chasing the tune and can lock it down then why does a name matter? Or better yet racing for a profession and that 10th of a second means the difference of a $5k payout vs. a $20k payout, who cares? Your **** is fast and has as a safe tune, that is all that matters. Pick which ever one you want that is available in you town and run with it, both work.

All the features of the ecutek look appealing to me, but ultimately it's too cost prohibitive and restrictive for me. For the slight extras it has, it's not worth the much greater cost, nor losing the ability to tune the wherever, whenever I wish.

It's just like the old FCON situation with the 350z. Only special hks "pro dealers" could tune it, I was one of them, and the first to use it in the Z. For a brief moment it was the only good option for tuning high power to be reliable in the Z. People resisted it greatly and the moment there was another option, the FCON was immediately forgotten regardless of being a very powerful system even by today's standards. It inevitably becomes a nightmare for the customer. Leaving behind my pro dealership years ago, I still have old customers contacting me asking hopeless questions about how and where to get their car tuned... With no more pro dealers around, FCON users are left with no choice but to purchase a new standalone.

At this point, I am more likely to just pick up a used haltech for under a grand and get more features and be able to tune it myself without investing into being some authorized tuner, or having to get married to one of their dealers so i can tune my car and keep it tuned.

Im with you on that one but keep in mind a turbo the size of mine wont make huge numbers like the guys running the 6266 precisions. The fact im looking at 450whp on only 8lbs is ridiculous. The boost leak can be fixed in 5 seconds but John has been too busy to try and etune me.

Honestly just the fact John could get it running as well as he did WITH a boost leak(we could not find at the time :mad: ) should show enough for ecutek. I don't feel it would be as possible with uprev. Anyways the main reason to go ecutek is the upgrades. The fact that most of the tuners will remotely tune for the new features as they come out for no extra charge is awesome. Atleast I think that's the offer I saw being kicked around.

I'm getting tuned w/ UpRev tomorrow. I spoke to a few tuners that use ecutek, and they've said it's costly to get into. So unfortunately for me, I'll be using UpRev because I don't have an option and I don't want to drive too far for a tune.