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synolimit 06-18-2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2366560)
Looks like there is quite a bit of interest! thanks for all the PMs and emails!

We will have a link up for our group buy shortly. There will be two different versions for you guys;

Calibration and license only, with our rent/loan cable service, for those who have no need to own a cable kit

Calibration, license, and purchase ProEcu cable Kit, for those who like cool gadgets, and want to own the kit.

As of right now, looks like pricing will be;

449.99 for the loaner cable set up

749.99 for the purchase cable set up

In addition, the purchase option gets free shipping.

Bear with me on the link, I will do my best to have it up soon, along with some of the results from our crash test dummies,,,,erh test customers!!

stay tuned!!!

$500 and $200 cheaper than Visconti? Are they high? I have no idea at this point. Two different programs, crazy different prices, why the F can't it just be simple, here you go, done deal?

Promise safe, reliable, smooth post tune and you'll win me over at this point.

dP3NGU1N 06-18-2013 11:18 PM

Is it possible to go with the $449 package with the option to buy the cable later? Is the cable $300 or would it be more after group buy ends?

Dynotronics1 06-19-2013 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2369363)
Is it possible to go with the $449 package with the option to buy the cable later? Is the cable $300 or would it be more after group buy ends?

yes, you can opt to buy the cable at any point. If you decide to keep the rental cable, we even refund the 12.95 shipping charge.

Dynotronics1 06-19-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2369329)
$500 and $200 cheaper than Visconti? Are they high? I have no idea at this point. Two different programs, crazy different prices, why the F can't it just be simple, here you go, done deal?

Promise safe, reliable, smooth post tune and you'll win me over at this point.

I can make it as easy as you like. Your going to be happy, I promise. In fact, if your not happy, we will refund 100% of your calibration price, that's our company policy on all our calibrations

Dynotronics1 06-19-2013 10:10 AM

Sorry for the wait, folks. I have been buried with file work this week.

Here are the links. Here is how this works;

If you are in the US, and want to purchase a cable set up, simply click the "BUY" button, and follow along to paypal. Your GB price 750.00 with the free shipping in the US.









If you are outside the US, you can do the exact same thing, except you click the "INTERNATIONAL"(same deal, but you get shipping charges, sorry!). Your GB price 750.00 with the flat rate shipping charge of 63.00








If your in the US and you want to rent/loan, click the "RENT" button. You also will be directed to Paypal to finish.

On the rent cables, you will be required to place a deposit to cover the cost of the cable, and we will email you this form. The first 14 days of the rental are included at no charge, however after that we ding ya 25$ per week against your deposit. I hate to do this, because its a book keeping nightmare, but in the past, we have had folks that kept cables for months at a time. So this seems to be the best solution to keep things moving.

Rent/loan cable pricing is 449.99 plus the 12.95 flat shipping with insurance.

If you are outside the US and need a rental cable, email me, and we will let you know how this works.



steiner711 06-19-2013 11:25 AM

How long will this group buy be running?

synolimit 06-19-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by steiner711 (Post 2369995)
How long will this group buy be running?

Yeah???

I got the car last week. Needless to say not all of my parts have been purchased yet.

Dynotronics1 06-19-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by steiner711 (Post 2369995)
How long will this group buy be running?

I figured two weeks sound long enough?

synolimit 06-19-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2370063)
I figured two weeks sound long enough?

Nope! Indefinite sounds better. You'll still make money and sell a lot more tunes.

What's better? Low volume, high price, low customer referrals? Or high volume, low price, tons of referrals reaching even more customers?! Durr :tup:

There's a reason each Walton kid is worth $26,000,000,000.00!

Dynotronics1 06-19-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2370468)
Nope! Indefinite sounds better. You'll still make money and sell a lot more tunes.

What's better? Low volume, high price, low customer referrals? Or high volume, low price, tons of referrals reaching even more customers?! Durr :tup:

There's a reason each Walton kid is worth $26,000,000,000.00!

Ok, you sold me. I'm open to customer suggestions

jofro6 06-19-2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2370569)
Ok, you sold me. I'm open to customer suggestions

Well now that you are sold, where is the link lol :-p or is it on your website, do we have to call? hows it working

Dynotronics1 06-19-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jofro6 (Post 2370629)
Well now that you are sold, where is the link lol :-p or is it on your website, do we have to call? hows it working

links are at post #45 on this thread

jofro6 06-19-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2370657)
links are at post #45 on this thread

man howd i miss that... all ordered. Cant wait to get this product and be off and running. First car I've ever had tuned :)

Thanks Joe for making this so simple. What do you expect to be wait times on shipping of a full purchased kit? not in a rush, just curious

Dynotronics1 06-19-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jofro6 (Post 2370716)
man howd i miss that... all ordered. Cant wait to get this product and be off and running. First car I've ever had tuned :)

Thanks Joe for making this so simple. What do you expect to be wait times on shipping of a full purchased kit? not in a rush, just curious

Most likely Thursday, but no later than Friday morning.

NS370Z 06-19-2013 08:09 PM

What exactly is physically shipped? How big/heavy? Reason I ask is because I'm in the US a few times a year and I could avoid a $63 shipping charge to Canada.

Dynotronics1 06-19-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NS370Z (Post 2370830)
What exactly is physically shipped? How big/heavy? Reason I ask is because I'm in the US a few times a year and I could avoid a $63 shipping charge to Canada.

understandable, and I'm sorry the cost is so stupid to go right across the border.

The box is about 1.5 lbs, 2X8X 10 in.

We can do a ground type shipping to Canada if you are not in a rush. figure 6-10 days and about 22.00$

Most folks don't want to wait the extra few days, so we just listed the one choice. But email me if you want the slower/cheaper route, and we will take care of you

scionide 06-20-2013 04:40 PM

Ordered!

Dynotronics1 06-22-2013 08:01 AM

First batch shipped Friday morning for those that ordered last week.

Also, I have had a bunch of questions regarding laptop type, and operating systems;

Ecutek works quite well on everything from XP to 8, and has no issues with apple( using parallels). We do offer loaner net books in case you don't have a laptop( don't laugh, you would be surprised).

We also do remote access for those of you who are not quite sure your comfortable doing this on you own. In this case we log on to your laptop, read and load the file, and set up the parameters for you to log with.

Please let me know if there are any questions I have not covered.

Dynotronics1 06-24-2013 12:56 PM

Thanks for all the orders! we are shipping our second batch today, so if you ordered late Thursday thru the weekend, your order is on the way. Also you should get an email with detailed instructions shortly, so be on the look out for those.

We have a few cables left of this batch, so if your thinking about jumping on the train, now would be a good time. We should be getting an order this week, but the customs folks have an interesting way of re setting my schedule from time to time, so you never know.

jofro6 06-24-2013 05:17 PM

you ship fedex/ups, or by USPS? just so i have a time frame of when i should be checkin my doorstep lol

Zbrah 06-24-2013 06:10 PM

just subbing so I can read more later.

Dynotronics1 06-24-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jofro6 (Post 2377389)
you ship fedex/ups, or by usps? Just so i have a time frame of when i should be checkin my doorstep lol

usps

HardTech 06-24-2013 06:51 PM

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I came from a G8, a tune from day 1 did yield some results. Would anything be gained on a stock new Z?

Although I do plan intake, and HFC in the future.

dP3NGU1N 06-24-2013 06:51 PM

Is there a date that this group buy going to end or are you going to be keeping these prices for the forseeable future? I'd like to get in on this but I'd also like to wait until I get paid before I do so (don't like carrying balances over on my cards).

Also, if going with the $450 option now, how much would the cable be if purchased later?

Dynotronics1 06-24-2013 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HardTech (Post 2377501)
Subbing

I came from a G8, a tune from day 1 did yield some results. Would anything be gained on a stock new Z?

Although I do plan intake, and HFC in the future.

Stock car will gain a great deal of drive ability, as well as roughly 15-16 whp

Dynotronics1 06-24-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2377504)
Is there a date that this group buy going to end or are you going to be keeping these prices for the forseeable future? I'd like to get in on this but I'd also like to wait until I get paid before I do so (don't like carrying balances over on my cards).

Also, if going with the $450 option now, how much would the cable be if purchased later?

really no end date in sight right now, most likely at least thru the end of July.

300.00 for the cable if you have a tune from us and want to get one later

phunk 06-24-2013 08:59 PM

What does it cost if you want everything you need to tune the car entirely by yourself? Is that the $750 or does the $750 only mean you can upload maps provided by ecutek tuners?

shivers 06-24-2013 09:26 PM

Are all ECUs supported at this point or will some of us need to do a ROM dump so it can be sent off to EcuTek and added to their running list of supported ECUs?

And does your calibration come ready to go or do we do some data logs and send them back to you for fine tuning to end up with fully tuned, car specific ROM?

Dynotronics1 06-25-2013 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 2377715)
What does it cost if you want everything you need to tune the car entirely by yourself? Is that the $750 or does the $750 only mean you can upload maps provided by ecutek tuners?

This version is for those that want a calibration , but don't want to tune it themselves.

we do offer the option of the full edit software to shops that would like to tune their own, or customer cars.

We also offer a shop version that allows a shop to work with us to tune customer cars, but we still do the calibrations here.

We are actively looking for qualified shops that want to offer a better solution for their 370z, and other Nissan customers

Dynotronics1 06-25-2013 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by shivers (Post 2377784)
Are all ECUs supported at this point or will some of us need to do a ROM dump so it can be sent off to EcuTek and added to their running list of supported ECUs?

And does your calibration come ready to go or do we do some data logs and send them back to you for fine tuning to end up with fully tuned, car specific ROM?

the list grows everyday, but I'm pretty sure its a fair bet we will be finding unknown calibrations for the near future. As of this morning, we have ~30 cal ids in the database.

Nice thing is, if we run into one, the gents at EcuTek are very quick to jump on it and port out an update. Generally I see a unknown file updated within 12 hours. So worst case, we have to get you to dump the file, send it to us, then within 12-24 hours you have your "base" calibration back from us.

Chuck33079 06-25-2013 07:57 AM

What would the cost be for the license and cable, without any tuning? I would prefer to have that handled by someone local rather than by email.

Sh0velMan 06-25-2013 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2378153)
This version is for those that want a calibration , but don't want to tune it themselves.

we do offer the option of the full edit software to shops that would like to tune their own, or customer cars.

Is the cost in the multiple thousands?

JARblue 06-25-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2378161)
What would the cost be for the license and cable, without any tuning? I would prefer to have that handled by someone local rather than by email.

The cable is around $300 (probably a hair more when not purchased in a the package deal). Since whoever you have do the tune locally will have to have the EcuTek software, I would expect they will be able to get you a license. If they can't get you a license, I think it's unlikely they will have the necessary software to perform your tune.

Chuck33079 06-25-2013 08:27 AM

If that's the case, what would the total cost be to come out and have the tune done in person?

JARblue 06-25-2013 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2378211)
If that's the case, what would the total cost be to come out and have the tune done in person?

You still pay for the license and his tune (the $450 package), but you could probably just pay Joe for a few hours of street tuning instead of paying $300 for the cable. I'm not sure what his hourly rate is, and I'm not sure if his prices are different for NA vs FI (I just know if you already have NA tune, there is a small fee to update the tune if you go FI). I would assume that fine tuning on a dyno would be additional.

Chuck33079 06-25-2013 08:42 AM

A good tune needs to include both dyno and street tuning, since there's so much more to it than just tuning wot on the dyno. I'm just trying to get an idea of the total cash outlay.

Edit now that I'm not trying to type on my phone- I'm not a huge fan of tuning WOT/ full bore pulls on the street. That's more for on/off throttle, part throttle, etc. I'd prefer to have the high speed stuff done on a dyno. Plus, I want all the printouts- power, boost/afr, etc. The butt dyno is often a liar. If I'm going to drop the coin to switch software, I'd like to be able to look at it and say "this is X more power at Y rpm".

JARblue 06-25-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2378237)
A good tune needs to include both dyno and street tuning, since there's so much more to it than just tuning wot on the dyno. I'm just trying to get an idea of the total cash outlay.

Edit now that I'm not trying to type on my phone- I'm not a huge fan of tuning WOT/ full bore pulls on the street. That's more for on/off throttle, part throttle, etc. I'd prefer to have the high speed stuff done on a dyno. Plus, I want all the printouts- power, boost/afr, etc. The butt dyno is often a liar. If I'm going to drop the coin to switch software, I'd like to be able to look at it and say "this is X more power at Y rpm".

Well, you could always do the street tuning yourself with the rented cable to save Joe some time. Get a base tune from him, log some data, then bring the car and data to him. He won't have to spend as much time driving it on the street before additional dyno tuning. Obviously, you'll have to pony up for the dyno and his time, which I can understand why you'd be hesitant with the limited results out there and having already paid for a different tuning software. But doing some datalogging yourself would probably save a little bit of money.

Dynotronics1 06-25-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2378161)
What would the cost be for the license and cable, without any tuning? I would prefer to have that handled by someone local rather than by email.

software itself is around 1500-1600.

We are trying to keep this to qualified shops. No I'm not being snobbish, but you wouldn't take your baby to just anyone would you? We would prefer to work with established shops, with qualified tuners for two reasons; to protect the integrity of the product, and to expand the knowledge base on this platform.

Let me explain that a bit better;

First, as a Master tuner, I am answerable to not only you, as the end customer, but to EcuTek as well. So if we hand out the software to JimBob down at the gas station and he proceeds to talk someone into a tune, and melts a piston or two, guess who gets the call from the pissed customer?

Second, and I know this might be a shock to hear a tuner admit this, but we don't know everything there is to know about this platform. There are guys out there with a deeper knowledge of the 370, and that's the truth. I'm damn good at what I do, that's why I'm one of a very select group of "master" tuners, but the simple fact is I learn something new EVERY day. We like to work with shops that we can learn from, and in turn they learn from us. This is what I mean when I refer to expanding the knowledge base

I you happen to have a shop in mind, let me know, I'm happy to work with any qualified shop in the world. We could talk to them directly, and show them the software. Hell you might even get a free calibration from them for bringing it to their attention!

Chuck33079 06-25-2013 09:07 AM

I'm trying to avoid doing too much running around on a base tune since it's FI. There's a lot more to go wrong. In the past when I've had other vehicles tuned, we started on the dyno to get it mostly dialed in, and then moved it to the street for polishing.

Chuck33079 06-25-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dynotronics1 (Post 2378287)
software itself is around 1500-1600.

We are trying to keep this to qualified shops. No I'm not being snobbish, but you wouldn't take your baby to just anyone would you? We would prefer to work with established shops, with qualified tuners for two reasons; to protect the integrity of the product, and to expand the knowledge base on this platform.

Let me explain that a bit better;

First, as a Master tuner, I am answerable to not only you, as the end customer, but to EcuTek as well. So if we hand out the software to JimBob down at the gas station and he proceeds to talk someone into a tune, and melts a piston or two, guess who gets the call from the pissed customer?

Second, and I know this might be a shock to hear a tuner admit this, but we don't know everything there is to know about this platform. There are guys out there with a deeper knowledge of the 370, and that's the truth. I'm damn good at what I do, that's why I'm one of a very select group of "master" tuners, but the simple fact is I learn something new EVERY day. We like to work with shops that we can learn from, and in turn they learn from us. This is what I mean when I refer to expanding the knowledge base

I you happen to have a shop in mind, let me know, I'm happy to work with any qualified shop in the world. We could talk to them directly, and show them the software. Hell you might even get a free calibration from them for bringing it to their attention!

Oh, I'm completely ok with not letting everybody with a lift and a set of tools become a "tuner".

Rather than type out a novel here, I'll just get to the point. I'm looking for a total drive-out cost to come to your shop, dyno tune it, touch it up on the street and go home with the cable. I'll be scheduling it right after I see that Ecutek has added the boost control functionality to the software.


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