UpRev, buying a used cable

DEpointfive0 · 12-21-2013, 08:22 AM

So, I don't really understand how the cable system works, so sorry for the stupid questions.

An acquaintance is selling the tuner version with the cable and he said the license is back on the cable.
The tuner version is the only version that you can use then resell when you're "done" right?
Do I need to register it to my my car, and does it cost anything to do that?
And how can I make sure that the license is back on the cable so I don't get ripped off?

Thanks in advance,
Andrew

Trilitheum · 12-21-2013, 09:02 AM

Hey, I bought a used cable last year. Get him to send you a screen shot of the cable manager screen and it will say in bold green letters "License on Cable" and the serial numbers etc. See Here

A cable doesn't need to be the "Tuner" version to resell, but it is the only version that lets YOU do the tuning, any cable can have a licence on it, but only the tuner version lets you edit ROM's, other wise you have to go to a pro tuner for ROM's.

You don't need to do anything special to transfer the license to the car, it's done through the software and is completed on the first flash. It just sits in the cable until you are ready to flash the ROM, then it is on the car and no longer on the cable. If you want to sell the cable/license, UpRev or a pro tuner sends a file that flashes the car back to stock rom and puts the license back on the cable which you can then sell to anyone.

Hope this helps, I was confused initially as well.

DEpointfive0 · 12-21-2013, 09:15 AM

^Thank you!!!
What I thought is that there is a license version that is forever married to a car, and that only the tuner version could be UNmarried.

DEpointfive0 · 12-21-2013, 09:23 AM

In response to asking for a screenshot...

"In summary, without my nismo ecu, there is no way to show you, sorry if thats a deal breaker"

Should I still buy it and use PayPal as buyer protection?

Trilitheum · 12-21-2013, 09:29 AM

He doesn't need his ECU, all you need is to plug the cable into a computer with Osiris loaded on it (free download from UpRev site), and it will show the license, no connection to the car needed.

DEpointfive0 · 12-21-2013, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trilitheum

He doesn't need his ECU, all you need is to plug the cable into a computer with Osiris loaded on it (free download from UpRev site), and it will show the license, no connection to the car needed.

That would make sense to me, lol
But I don't feel like pissing off the seller because I think their price is cheap
If PayPal will cover the risk, I don't mind

Trilitheum · 12-21-2013, 09:47 AM

That is a good price.

The only problem would be if there was no license on the cable convincing PayPal that you did get the cable but it didn't have a licence on it, have to make sure they understand the concept, the goods being received are not just the cable. The "significantly not as described" protection is at their discretion, and if they see you got the cable might be a hard sell to PayPal depending on their mood, but it doesn't make any sense why he would sell it without the licence on it as if he doesn't have his car it's no use to him.

DEpointfive0 · 12-21-2013, 09:59 AM

He sent a pic, it says license on cable.
Osiris Pro: Disabled

That's ok right?

Trilitheum · 12-21-2013, 10:00 AM

Yup, that's for the tuner shops, as long as it says ROM Editor: Enabled its the tuner version.

DEpointfive0 · 12-21-2013, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trilitheum

Yup, that's for the tuner shops, as long as it says ROM Editor: Enabled its the tuner version.

Yep, awesome. Paid for it.
Rep added

Trilitheum · 12-21-2013, 10:07 AM

Glad I could help, confused the crap out of me in the beginning until I figured it all out.

DEpointfive0 · 12-21-2013, 10:12 AM

Yeah it does, lol
They really should start simplifying by calling their cable a cable, I know Cipher sounds cool and it "justifies" $200, but it confuses the end user

Kris9884 · 01-17-2017, 04:19 PM

Sorry to bump an ancient thread but I wanted to clarify. After a used cable is purchased, assuming the license is on it, all I need is to take it and my car to a tuner who already has the Tuner software right? I don't need to purchase the separate Tuner software myself, right?

DEpointfive0 · 01-18-2017, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris9884

Sorry to bump an ancient thread but I wanted to clarify. After a used cable is purchased, assuming the license is on it, all I need is to take it and my car to a tuner who already has the Tuner software right? I don't need to purchase the separate Tuner software myself, right?

Yessir

Kris9884 · 01-19-2017, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Yessir

Ah that's great news, thank you!

12-21-2013, 08:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	UpRev, buying a used cable So, I don't really understand how the cable system works, so sorry for the stupid questions. An acquaintance is selling the tuner version with the cable and he said the license is back on the cable. The tuner version is the only version that you can use then resell when you're "done" right? Do I need to register it to my my car, and does it cost anything to do that? And how can I make sure that the license is back on the cable so I don't get ripped off? Thanks in advance, Andrew BeemaaZ and imazman like this. __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

12-21-2013, 09:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
Trilitheum Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ontario Posts: 210 Drives: '11 370z 6M KAD Spt Rep Power: 14	Hey, I bought a used cable last year. Get him to send you a screen shot of the cable manager screen and it will say in bold green letters "License on Cable" and the serial numbers etc. See Here A cable doesn't need to be the "Tuner" version to resell, but it is the only version that lets YOU do the tuning, any cable can have a licence on it, but only the tuner version lets you edit ROM's, other wise you have to go to a pro tuner for ROM's. You don't need to do anything special to transfer the license to the car, it's done through the software and is completed on the first flash. It just sits in the cable until you are ready to flash the ROM, then it is on the car and no longer on the cable. If you want to sell the cable/license, UpRev or a pro tuner sends a file that flashes the car back to stock rom and puts the license back on the cable which you can then sell to anyone. Hope this helps, I was confused initially as well. TreeSemdyZee, DEpointfive0 and imazman like this. __________________ 2011 Nissan 370Z Touring/Sport, 6MT, KAD Last edited by Trilitheum; 12-21-2013 at 09:05 AM.

12-21-2013, 09:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	^Thank you!!! What I thought is that there is a license version that is forever married to a car, and that only the tuner version could be UNmarried. __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

12-21-2013, 09:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	In response to asking for a screenshot... "In summary, without my nismo ecu, there is no way to show you, sorry if thats a deal breaker" Should I still buy it and use PayPal as buyer protection? __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

12-21-2013, 09:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
Trilitheum Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ontario Posts: 210 Drives: '11 370z 6M KAD Spt Rep Power: 14	He doesn't need his ECU, all you need is to plug the cable into a computer with Osiris loaded on it (free download from UpRev site), and it will show the license, no connection to the car needed. BeemaaZ and Chuck33079 like this. __________________ 2011 Nissan 370Z Touring/Sport, 6MT, KAD

12-21-2013, 09:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
Trilitheum Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ontario Posts: 210 Drives: '11 370z 6M KAD Spt Rep Power: 14	That is a good price. The only problem would be if there was no license on the cable convincing PayPal that you did get the cable but it didn't have a licence on it, have to make sure they understand the concept, the goods being received are not just the cable. The "significantly not as described" protection is at their discretion, and if they see you got the cable might be a hard sell to PayPal depending on their mood, but it doesn't make any sense why he would sell it without the licence on it as if he doesn't have his car it's no use to him. __________________ 2011 Nissan 370Z Touring/Sport, 6MT, KAD

12-21-2013, 09:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	He sent a pic, it says license on cable. Osiris Pro: Disabled That's ok right? __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

12-21-2013, 10:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
Trilitheum Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ontario Posts: 210 Drives: '11 370z 6M KAD Spt Rep Power: 14	Yup, that's for the tuner shops, as long as it says ROM Editor: Enabled its the tuner version. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ 2011 Nissan 370Z Touring/Sport, 6MT, KAD

12-21-2013, 10:07 AM	#11 (permalink)
Trilitheum Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ontario Posts: 210 Drives: '11 370z 6M KAD Spt Rep Power: 14	Glad I could help, confused the crap out of me in the beginning until I figured it all out. __________________ 2011 Nissan 370Z Touring/Sport, 6MT, KAD

12-21-2013, 10:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	Yeah it does, lol They really should start simplifying by calling their cable a cable, I know Cipher sounds cool and it "justifies" $200, but it confuses the end user Riptide67 likes this. __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

01-17-2017, 04:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
Kris9884 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: MO Posts: 72 Drives: 2008 G37s Rep Power: 9	Sorry to bump an ancient thread but I wanted to clarify. After a used cable is purchased, assuming the license is on it, all I need is to take it and my car to a tuner who already has the Tuner software right? I don't need to purchase the separate Tuner software myself, right? DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ My slow build thread on MyG37 - http://www.myg37.com/forums/build-th...upe-build.html

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