Be Careful with UpRev in Mass

Evil Sports · 10-05-2012, 11:26 PM

Any Uprev Mass inspected cars with go through lately?? I really want to get this done

DEpointfive0 · 10-25-2012, 02:23 PM

Oh, and I sent this message to luigi90210:
I have first hand experience with a car being declined as well for an engine replacement due to a tune, not from the dealer, but from a call from HQ...

And again, depending on who you know, shady things CAN be done, I know someone at my last dealer who no longer works there who "bought" a car from a customer who couldn't pay for repairs on his Murano... The owner of the car gave up the title in exchange for not being charged for diagnostics... It had oil consumption/very low compression, engine blown... He paid for the diagnostic repairs out of pocket like $1200, then filed a claim under a previous date and mileage saying the engine was blown, corporate sent out a short block, and once the old short block was inspected, the dealer got reimbursed for the block

Evil Sports · 10-25-2012, 07:31 PM

Thanks but this is not getting me any answers about Uprev cars passing inspection in Mass.

DEpointfive0 · 10-25-2012, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Sports

Thanks but this is not getting me any answers about Uprev cars passing inspection in Mass.

Yep, sorry about that, we'll keep the discussion to the other thread!
And I really cannot believe Mass doesn't allow tuned cars

criminalntent · 11-05-2012, 08:07 PM

You guys have danced around the answer the entire time, each page I read I expected to see it. Every CARB certified part is just that (certification comes with proper identification). Stillen has submitted evidence there tune is emission legal and was granted a CARB certified id in which MA's device recognizes. Every dealer reflash has gone through the same steps, this is why the uk ecu's didn't pass in the states. They were never CARB certified for state use.

Evil Sports · 11-06-2012, 05:00 AM

Im not dancing, just trying to get some real answers. This carb cert sounds like the best info so far. Does Up-Rev have this cert Id in their roms

criminalntent · 11-06-2012, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Sports

Im not dancing, just trying to get some real answers. This carb cert sounds like the best info so far. Does Up-Rev have this cert Id in their roms

No, Uprev cannot get CARB approval for the software alone. This is why even stock cars with no tune manipulation fail. Each specific tune that is CARB approved is given a CVN (Calibration Verification Number). When the ecu is checked it must match a CVN in the C.A.R.B. database, No match... No pass.

Uprev knows this information, Why they wouldn't explain this upon questioning is pretty lame IMO. There is a way to copy the CVN to generic tunes but no business in there right mind would chance it lol.

Do the Humpty Hump, come on and do the Humpty Hump

Evil Sports · 11-06-2012, 03:23 PM

Just came back from inspecting my Ridgeline. The guy that does it is a cool guy so I asked him about tuning my Z, he said its not worth the hassle. Getting sent to the MAC center is a huge pain in the ***. He was not able to tell me why they can tell a car has uprev as he didnt know. So still no answers on why

criminalntent · 11-06-2012, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Sports

Just came back from inspecting my Ridgeline. The guy that does it is a cool guy so I asked him about tuning my Z, he said its not worth the hassle. Getting sent to the MAC center is a huge pain in the ***. He was not able to tell me why they can tell a car has uprev as he didnt know. So still no answers on why

Did I not answer your question in my post?

criminalntent · 11-06-2012, 08:58 PM

Starts in section 4.1 at the bottom of page 52 as to why and page 53 as how it's done. Lots of good info throughout the book though.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17584219/26/

arnoldas · 11-29-2012, 09:26 PM

so if i just got test pipes on my car and i want to get an uprev tune, only to turn the cel light off so i can pass emissions, now im finding out that i will still fail even with uprev so i shouldnt even get it? guess ill have to put the stock cats on or bug extender to pass

Evil Sports · 11-30-2012, 05:46 AM

Im still trying to confirm this for Mass, not sure about Ny. Cant get a real answer.

criminalntent · 11-30-2012, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Sports

Im still trying to confirm this for Mass, not sure about Ny. Cant get a real answer.

This is the case in Mass. Fact.... Jus tryin to tell ya what I know

Evil Sports · 11-30-2012, 09:00 PM

So your saying if I do an Uprev tune the Mass inspection WILL detect it and reject the car??

arnoldas · 11-30-2012, 07:06 AM

alright, and does anyone know if my a/f ratio is going to be off with test pipes if i dont get a tune? everything else is stock

10-05-2012, 11:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Evil Sports Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mass Posts: 187 Drives: 11-370z-Blue-M6-ST Rep Power: 15	Any Uprev Mass inspected cars with go through lately?? I really want to get this done WI_Hedgehog likes this. __________________ My current Rice stable, Lexus RX 330, Nissan 370z, Honda Aquatrax turbo, Yamaha 212SS

10-25-2012, 02:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	Oh, and I sent this message to luigi90210: I have first hand experience with a car being declined as well for an engine replacement due to a tune, not from the dealer, but from a call from HQ... And again, depending on who you know, shady things CAN be done, I know someone at my last dealer who no longer works there who "bought" a car from a customer who couldn't pay for repairs on his Murano... The owner of the car gave up the title in exchange for not being charged for diagnostics... It had oil consumption/very low compression, engine blown... He paid for the diagnostic repairs out of pocket like $1200, then filed a claim under a previous date and mileage saying the engine was blown, corporate sent out a short block, and once the old short block was inspected, the dealer got reimbursed for the block WI_Hedgehog likes this.

10-25-2012, 07:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Evil Sports Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mass Posts: 187 Drives: 11-370z-Blue-M6-ST Rep Power: 15	Thanks but this is not getting me any answers about Uprev cars passing inspection in Mass. 370Zsteve likes this. __________________ My current Rice stable, Lexus RX 330, Nissan 370z, Honda Aquatrax turbo, Yamaha 212SS

11-05-2012, 08:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
criminalntent Base Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 15 Drives: M37 Rep Power: 13	You guys have danced around the answer the entire time, each page I read I expected to see it. Every CARB certified part is just that (certification comes with proper identification). Stillen has submitted evidence there tune is emission legal and was granted a CARB certified id in which MA's device recognizes. Every dealer reflash has gone through the same steps, this is why the uk ecu's didn't pass in the states. They were never CARB certified for state use. 370Zsteve and WI_Hedgehog like this.

11-06-2012, 05:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
Evil Sports Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mass Posts: 187 Drives: 11-370z-Blue-M6-ST Rep Power: 15	Im not dancing, just trying to get some real answers. This carb cert sounds like the best info so far. Does Up-Rev have this cert Id in their roms __________________ My current Rice stable, Lexus RX 330, Nissan 370z, Honda Aquatrax turbo, Yamaha 212SS

11-06-2012, 03:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Evil Sports Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mass Posts: 187 Drives: 11-370z-Blue-M6-ST Rep Power: 15	Just came back from inspecting my Ridgeline. The guy that does it is a cool guy so I asked him about tuning my Z, he said its not worth the hassle. Getting sent to the MAC center is a huge pain in the ***. He was not able to tell me why they can tell a car has uprev as he didnt know. So still no answers on why __________________ My current Rice stable, Lexus RX 330, Nissan 370z, Honda Aquatrax turbo, Yamaha 212SS

11-06-2012, 08:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
criminalntent Base Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 15 Drives: M37 Rep Power: 13	Starts in section 4.1 at the bottom of page 52 as to why and page 53 as how it's done. Lots of good info throughout the book though. http://www.scribd.com/doc/17584219/26/ Last edited by criminalntent; 11-06-2012 at 09:13 PM.

11-29-2012, 09:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
arnoldas Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: new york Posts: 197 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 13	so if i just got test pipes on my car and i want to get an uprev tune, only to turn the cel light off so i can pass emissions, now im finding out that i will still fail even with uprev so i shouldnt even get it? guess ill have to put the stock cats on or bug extender to pass

11-30-2012, 05:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
Evil Sports Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mass Posts: 187 Drives: 11-370z-Blue-M6-ST Rep Power: 15	Im still trying to confirm this for Mass, not sure about Ny. Cant get a real answer. __________________ My current Rice stable, Lexus RX 330, Nissan 370z, Honda Aquatrax turbo, Yamaha 212SS

11-30-2012, 09:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
Evil Sports Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mass Posts: 187 Drives: 11-370z-Blue-M6-ST Rep Power: 15	So your saying if I do an Uprev tune the Mass inspection WILL detect it and reject the car?? __________________ My current Rice stable, Lexus RX 330, Nissan 370z, Honda Aquatrax turbo, Yamaha 212SS

11-30-2012, 07:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
arnoldas Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: new york Posts: 197 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 13	alright, and does anyone know if my a/f ratio is going to be off with test pipes if i dont get a tune? everything else is stock

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