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seymore4 01-14-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Sports (Post 2650205)
So there are only 2 people that can get their cars inspected that have them tuned in Mass. This is a pretty big forum for only 2 people to be responding. I dont give two s hits about Uprev or EcuTek and now believe for my NA car its not worth doing.

Post like a douche all the time and people will ignore your thread... :shakes head:

tibal 01-14-2014 10:06 AM

A big tell will be if I can get my car inspected. Far from stock and UpRev tuned. Need to get a sticker before the EOM so I will keep you all updated.

I do not see myself having an issue as I spoke to the shop I go to and when I asked him about the UpRev issues I am reading about he said , there shouldn't be an issue. He said that he has not had any new updates to his readers that would cause a fail based on the read and mapping?

visconti 01-14-2014 12:53 PM

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Evil Sports 01-14-2014 05:16 PM

Simple solution for YOU, Unsubscribe from this thread :hello:

Evil Sports 01-14-2014 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tibal (Post 2650723)
A big tell will be if I can get my car inspected. Far from stock and UpRev tuned. Need to get a sticker before the EOM so I will keep you all updated.

I do not see myself having an issue as I spoke to the shop I go to and when I asked him about the UpRev issues I am reading about he said , there shouldn't be an issue. He said that he has not had any new updates to his readers that would cause a fail based on the read and mapping?

Thanks for checking in, please keep us posted on your results

forza370z 01-14-2014 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tibal (Post 2650723)
A big tell will be if I can get my car inspected. Far from stock and UpRev tuned. Need to get a sticker before the EOM so I will keep you all updated.

I do not see myself having an issue as I spoke to the shop I go to and when I asked him about the UpRev issues I am reading about he said , there shouldn't be an issue. He said that he has not had any new updates to his readers that would cause a fail based on the read and mapping?

Good luck with your inspection and keep us posted Ti!:tiphat:

rich2342 01-15-2014 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tibal (Post 2650723)
A big tell will be if I can get my car inspected. Far from stock and UpRev tuned. Need to get a sticker before the EOM so I will keep you all updated.

I do not see myself having an issue as I spoke to the shop I go to and when I asked him about the UpRev issues I am reading about he said , there shouldn't be an issue. He said that he has not had any new updates to his readers that would cause a fail based on the read and mapping?

Please do let us know..

Thanks.

rich2342 01-15-2014 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mag_black (Post 2648475)
Did you do anything to check for readiness before inspection? Did your tuner turn off o2's?

I have an inspection coming in 3 months, but my sensors are showing as ready. I'm going to head to the tuner to have him take a look at my ROM just to confirm. I feel confident that I'll pass.

I think certain codes were turned off and showing not ready or unsupported based on the tune used on my car. I had gotten the original tune from R/t tuning remotely and one map was overwritten(map 5) for my Art pipe change. I switched maps however to my 1st map given by R/t tuning using my new Art pipe set up for my failed inspection.

After detuning and being sent to MAC I was told that the Catalyst and Evap monitors must show ready status, which mine did not initially. The reasons why I do not know. I was also told that if tuned and the number is changed that you will be flagged to Mac as well.

Rangerz 01-15-2014 07:07 PM

Rich,

probably already covered but, after an ecu reset in my experiance it usually takes 50-75 mi before they show as ready. Ive reset mine twice after doing some mods and my torque app shows both of these parameters and it's 50 to 75 before they show ready.

rich2342 01-16-2014 09:24 AM

^ I don't think that is the case with tuned maps? vs. normal ECU reset is it? The other thing is, with my tune I believe the sensors were bypassed as it was done in 2010.

seymore4 01-16-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rich2342 (Post 2653414)
I think certain codes were turned off and showing not ready or unsupported based on the tune used on my car. I had gotten the original tune from R/t tuning remotely and one map was overwritten(map 5) for my Art pipe change. I switched maps however to my 1st map given by R/t tuning using my new Art pipe set up for my failed inspection.

After detuning and being sent to MAC I was told that the Catalyst and Evap monitors must show ready status, which mine did not initially. The reasons why I do not know. I was also told that if tuned and the number is changed that you will be flagged to Mac as well.

If the codes are disabled in the tune (very common for test pipes) then they will show not ready and you will fail emissions in any state that does an OBD2 scan.

rich2342 01-16-2014 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by seymore4 (Post 2654179)
If the codes are disabled in the tune (very common for test pipes) then they will show not ready and you will fail emissions in any state that does an OBD2 scan.


Not sure if they were or not. It was someones elses tune mailed to me by R/t tuning. I had passed with the same tune the previous years only difference was the exhaust set up(HFC's) and new regulation in Mass now checking for ROM differences.

mag_black 01-21-2014 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rich2342 (Post 2654374)
Not sure if they were or not. It was someones elses tune mailed to me by R/t tuning. I had passed with the same tune the previous years only difference was the exhaust set up(HFC's) and new regulation in Mass now checking for ROM differences.

IDK, too many variables in the last inspection. You put on test pipes and EVAP and O2 was "not ready". You also didn't check for readiness.

I think w/ all the trouble we go through to make our cars faster, we should at least invest in a OBD-II scanner to assist us w/ passing inspection to enjoy them more.

Going into an inspection w/ knowledge of how your is car setup/running and coming back w/ data could finally put this thread to bed.

I haven't decided if I'll toss my CATs on before inspection, but I do plan on going to the tuner to check my o2's. According to my scanner, I have no stored codes, and all my sensors are ready, including my o2's, which makes me think that maybe my o2's aren't actually off. I have inspection in 2 months so I'll be back.

2011 Nismo#91 01-31-2014 09:04 AM

End of the month, so what happened with the inspection for tibal?

crystalline 07-01-2014 02:16 PM

Another year goes by and another inspection sticker! Uprev tuned and FI LTH :tup: Another serving of BS about MAC anyone?

mag_black 07-03-2014 12:27 AM

Also passed w/ ART pipes. Catalyst and O2's were on and ready state.

2011 Nismo#91 07-03-2014 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mag_black (Post 2882508)
Also passed w/ ART pipes. Catalyst and O2's were on and ready state.

Did they even test the tail pipe?

mag_black 07-03-2014 01:53 PM

No, they don't do sniffer on cars w/ OBD II here..

JARblue 07-03-2014 02:33 PM

So when is this thread going to be deleted :stirthepot:

brutusvk 07-03-2014 02:52 PM

This thread made my brain hurt. lol

ANMVQ 07-16-2014 07:41 AM

Knew it was all BS

rich2342 02-12-2015 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mag_black (Post 2882508)
Also passed w/ ART pipes. Catalyst and O2's were on and ready state.


Tuned or untuned? How did you get your Cat's to a ready state?

mag_black 02-13-2015 10:26 PM

FI non res, MD art pipes and uprev tuned. I turned my Catalyst sensors on at the tuner. Sometimes I get "cat inefficiency" when I drive hard because I'm catless, but I reset, drive around and wait for all my monitors to be in ready state.

Invest in an OBDII scanner. I use PLX kiwi wifi 2 and DashCommand.

edit: I hardly get "cat inefficiency", but it does show up from time to time. It's not a stored code.

rich2342 02-17-2015 09:48 PM

hmm, I am uprev tuned with art pipes, but I assume my sensors are bypassed. I don't want to detune again prior to inspection in March. I was failed and sent to a MAC which sucked to swap all my sh## out.

The guy at the MAC center told me Massachusetts is cracking down on tuned cars. Any flashes to the rom and they can typically tell. You are allowed 1 -2 sensors or incidents on a rolling basis before being "selected" like I was in my 3rd year of being tuned(passing with excpetions the 1st two years)

mag_black 02-18-2015 12:51 PM

Invest in a scanner tool and call it a day. I'm more worried about my test pipes than uprev to be quite honest.

Evil Sports 02-18-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rich2342 (Post 3114822)
I was failed and sent to a MAC which sucked to swap all my sh## out.

The guy at the MAC center told me Massachusetts is cracking down on tuned cars. Any flashes to the rom and they can typically tell. You are allowed 1 -2 sensors or incidents on a rolling basis before being "selected" like I was in my 3rd year of being tuned(passing with excpetions the 1st two years)

assclowns that said I was making this up:tiphat:

ANMVQ 02-18-2015 02:50 PM

asshat he has test pipes, and had his sensors bypassed, nice try tho

Evil Sports 02-18-2015 04:19 PM

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The guy at the MAC center told me Massachusetts is cracking down on tuned cars. Any flashes to the rom and they can typically tell.
What about that is hard to understand

ANMVQ 02-18-2015 05:28 PM

So I guess Factory updates send you to the MAC :/ ..

Evil Sports 02-18-2015 06:49 PM

You just cant let it go can you. My car wont fail and thats all that matters:tiphat:

mag_black 02-19-2015 12:37 AM

haha, what's the argument here? I passed w/ sensors on and uprev, he failed w/ uprev and not knowing if sensors were disabled. I have hard data, he doesn't know what was done to his car as far as the tune is concerned.

I know plenty of people that pass w/ uprev and headers/test pipes. People that failed here, have no idea about their tune. That's the variable here.

crystalline 02-19-2015 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Sports (Post 3115610)
assclowns that said I was making this up:tiphat:

No your just intentionally ignorant to the facts. If you try to pass with sensors disabled you will fail every time. If they all show ready you will pass every time just like the rest of us who do every year. This thread should be deleted.

crystalline 02-19-2015 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mag_black (Post 3111484)
FI non res, MD art pipes and uprev tuned. I turned my Catalyst sensors on at the tuner. Sometimes I get "cat inefficiency" when I drive hard because I'm catless, but I reset, drive around and wait for all my monitors to be in ready state.

Invest in an OBDII scanner. I use PLX kiwi wifi 2 and DashCommand.

edit: I hardly get "cat inefficiency", but it does show up from time to time. It's not a stored code.

Figured I should respond to this too, with FI LTE/CBE and uprev I never got a cat inefficiency code. I used MD art pipes for a while as well and never saw this code. But even if a code pops up like this you can just drive till it goes away or reset and drive till all monitors state ready just like mag_black says. It should have no effect on passing the test in the end. Please delete this worthless thread.

rich2342 02-20-2015 09:09 PM

We are dealing with different platforms here. I have an 03 Z and was tuned with Uprev with HFC's for 2 years and passed each year, however I still would have at least two sensors n/a or unsupported but it was enough to pass.

the third year, I swapped the HFC's for ART pipes and re-tuned one of 5 maps. I went for inspection and failed that same year.

The reasons are twofold:
1. subsequent years were there was unsupported or n/a codes(at least two)
2. Rom was flashed i.e. tuned. Massachusetts now knows anytime a ROM has flashed as it is not the original manufacturer code/serial number. --This was told to me directly by the inspector at the Mac center after I went for re-inspection and de-tuned and removed the ART pipes.

crystalline 02-21-2015 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rich2342 (Post 3118172)
We are dealing with different platforms here. I have an 03 Z and was tuned with Uprev with HFC's for 2 years and passed each year, however I still would have at least two sensors n/a or unsupported but it was enough to pass.

the third year, I swapped the HFC's for ART pipes and re-tuned one of 5 maps. I went for inspection and failed that same year.

The reasons are twofold:
1. subsequent years were there was unsupported or n/a codes(at least two)
2. Rom was flashed i.e. tuned. Massachusetts now knows anytime a ROM has flashed as it is not the original manufacturer code/serial number. --This was told to me directly by the inspector at the Mac center after I went for re-inspection and de-tuned and removed the ART pipes.

Something else had to have triggered the MAC flag, all of us have reflashed uprev maps. It seems more likely based on your previous post that you car was flagged some how for having sensors disabled for the past two years. I passed inspection with stock tune first, then uprev tune 1 , and uprev retuned. 4 years and 4 stickers with 3 different maps.

Before this my 3.5VQ maxima had headers, and in order to pass I used an O2 sim so that my rear sensors showed ready and defeated the CEL without disabling it. In the past you could have 1 or 2 read not ready and still pass, it seems like this is no longer true. The consensus I got from the different forums is that if you try to pass with disabled sensors now you will fail immediatly. Why even bother with disabling them its easy enough to fool the car into not throwing a CEL.

ANMVQ 03-25-2015 05:19 PM

Thought I'd bump his for fun :)
BTW got my inspection sticker today yes WITH UPREV

JARblue 03-25-2015 05:20 PM

:icon17:

mag_black 03-28-2015 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3149148)
Thought I'd bump his for fun :)
BTW got my inspection sticker today yes WITH UPREV

I don't believe you :stirthepot:

ANMVQ 03-28-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mag_black (Post 3152091)
I don't believe you :stirthepot:

Of course not , LOL :drama:

We Boston guys have to doubt! :)

tibal 05-16-2016 01:12 PM

BUMPing this up as I was flagged. I am very worried as I don't think there is anything on my car that HASN'T been touched.

Trying to figure out what the best plan of attack will be. I need to make an appointment to go to the MAC. UGH


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