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ChrisSlicks 11-06-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Sports (Post 2003928)
Wondering why all those people earlier in this thread wanted to argue and say We were wrong, and they had no issues with inspection.
Now I kinda feel like I wasted $$ on Typhoons and Short tails

No doubt things changed, and quite possibly changed very suddenly. My inspection with Uprev installed went just fine last year, I haven't been back this year to find out. The software that runs the inspection computer can be updated every month.

criminalntent 11-06-2012 08:58 PM

Starts in section 4.1 at the bottom of page 52 as to why and page 53 as how it's done. Lots of good info throughout the book though.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17584219/26/

arnoldas 11-29-2012 09:26 PM

so if i just got test pipes on my car and i want to get an uprev tune, only to turn the cel light off so i can pass emissions, now im finding out that i will still fail even with uprev so i shouldnt even get it? guess ill have to put the stock cats on or bug extender to pass

Evil Sports 11-30-2012 05:46 AM

Im still trying to confirm this for Mass, not sure about Ny. Cant get a real answer.

arnoldas 11-30-2012 07:06 AM

alright, and does anyone know if my a/f ratio is going to be off with test pipes if i dont get a tune? everything else is stock

criminalntent 11-30-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Sports (Post 2039732)
Im still trying to confirm this for Mass, not sure about Ny. Cant get a real answer.

This is the case in Mass. Fact.... Jus tryin to tell ya what I know

Evil Sports 11-30-2012 09:00 PM

So your saying if I do an Uprev tune the Mass inspection WILL detect it and reject the car??

Evil Sports 04-25-2013 04:54 AM

Over a year later can Anyone from Redsox nation confirm??

mantella87 05-20-2013 06:54 PM

This thread was hilarious. One good thing about CA, I don't have to worry about emissions until 2017 (since I bought my car new in 2011).

ANMVQ 05-21-2013 09:21 AM

it was .,

forza370z 05-27-2013 07:40 PM

So it's confirmed Mass will fail you if your car had UpRev tune even if you go to the inspection station that you know off? What about the people went FI? That would be sucked big time.

forza370z 05-27-2013 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 1777585)
Looks like we're on the same thought process as far as readiness alerts and whatnot. The reason the GTRs pass is because they don't use Uprev... GTRs are tuned with either Cobb or ECUTEK primarily. Also, a lot of GTR owners have the means and/or connections to circumvent emissions laws.

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Originally Posted by Evil Sports (Post 1758950)
So I called UPrev to see what they would tell me and the guy was a total TOOL. Im not gonna go into it but I really wish there was another company that offered this program, I would buy it from them in a second and Piss on UpRev

Now EcuTek has released their software to tune 370z as well. So here is your another company that offers this program. Not sure if EcuTek will pass the Mass inspection or not.

http://www.the370z.com/tuning/69946-...ssan-370z.html

crystalline 05-28-2013 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2335087)
So it's confirmed Mass will fail you if your car had UpRev tuneseven if you go to the inspection station that you know off? What about the people went FI? That would be sucked big time.

No this thread is a complete load of crap and should be deleted. I've gotten two stickers now without any issues!

forza370z 05-28-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalline (Post 2335496)
No this thread is a complete load of crap and should be deleted. I've gotten two stickers now without any issues!

Good for you! Hope this is the case.

mag_black 05-30-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalline (Post 2335496)
No this thread is a complete load of crap and should be deleted. I've gotten two stickers now without any issues!

What shop is this? If/when I get tuned, I would like to know my options ahead of time.

Evil Sports 05-31-2013 05:45 AM

Load of crap?? 1 person... YOU, out of all the uprev cars in the state responded. Sorry not a good enough sampling for me to fugg my car up.

crystalline 12-30-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Sports (Post 2340965)
Load of crap?? 1 person... YOU, out of all the uprev cars in the state responded. Sorry not a good enough sampling for me to fugg my car up.

My friend was reading this thread and got out of it that you cant get uprev in MA and also get a sticker. There are only 3 people from MA posting in this thread. Only two of them actually have uprev. Also both of us have current stickers. Why are people believing some guy with 3 posts and some other guy who doesn't even have uprev? If you disable sensors you wont pass, this is not necessary on the 370z. I don't know some special shop or person who is passing my car. If you dont believe me call up kaizen tuning and find out. They are the biggest nissan tunner in the MA area. This thread is spreading misinformation and should be deleted.

ANMVQ 12-31-2013 09:59 AM

I had two stickers done as well, and one was FI'd with my Stillen Kit I blew holes in this a long time ago, An BTW the "shop" That started this whole thing is no longer in business HMMMMMMMMMM

Evil Sports 01-01-2014 09:26 AM

Look, I want to do the tune but when your told by a shop its not gonna pass how are you supposed to react?? Come here and ask for people in your state to confirm or deny. Not much response from people here in Ma. I will call Kaizen and chat with them this week. Thanks for posting their name.

RyanWest 01-02-2014 11:24 AM

Wonder why Uprev wont comment?...... :/

visconti 01-02-2014 01:22 PM

Just saw this thread so I thought I would jump in here.

MASS has changed how they handle state inspection now.

They are now keeping record of the ECU ID in your car.

There are SEVERAL ECU IDs for each year / model. Nissan has flash updates all the time and from what I've seen.

UpRev doesn't support all the ECU IDs for tuning, when there's several revisions to a ROM they often support the latest version (which totally makes sense).

For example, a 2012 G37 Conv has 1VZ2D, 1VZ2C, 1VZ2B, 1VZ2A for ROM IDs

UpRev only supports tuning for 1VZ2D, because it's the latest known revision.

If you live in MASS and have been through inspection before getting tuned and had ROM ID 1VZ2A , then a year later come in tuned with 1VZ2D, MASS will give you a hard time.

I dont know what UpRev can do about this, but I can tell you EcuTek supports all ECU revisions for tuning, when you get your EcuTek tune make sure you tell your tuner you live in MASS and want the tune delivered in the same ROM as what's in your car now

Hope that helps!

John

Evil Sports 01-02-2014 04:07 PM

WOW, Finally someone that actually knows something steps up, Thanks Visco. Now what about these guys that say they have No problem with inspections?

visconti 01-02-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Sports (Post 2634285)
WOW, Finally someone that actually knows something steps up, Thanks Visco. Now what about these guys that say they have No problem with inspections?


It's because they're tuned with the same rom that they were originally inspected with. I heard about this via the EVO guys a few years ago.

Mass is cracking down!

I'm sure anyone having a problem can get a shop to write up a invoice stating the ecu was replaced due to some kind of damage.. The inspection team doesn't have a way to know if the car is tuned.. They're just monitoring ROM ID changes

John




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crystalline 01-02-2014 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by visconti (Post 2634049)
Just saw this thread so I thought I would jump in here.

MASS has changed how they handle state inspection now.

They are now keeping record of the ECU ID in your car.

There are SEVERAL ECU IDs for each year / model. Nissan has flash updates all the time and from what I've seen.

UpRev doesn't support all the ECU IDs for tuning, when there's several revisions to a ROM they often support the latest version (which totally makes sense).

For example, a 2012 G37 Conv has 1VZ2D, 1VZ2C, 1VZ2B, 1VZ2A for ROM IDs

UpRev only supports tuning for 1VZ2D, because it's the latest known revision.

If you live in MASS and have been through inspection before getting tuned and had ROM ID 1VZ2A , then a year later come in tuned with 1VZ2D, MASS will give you a hard time.

I dont know what UpRev can do about this, but I can tell you EcuTek supports all ECU revisions for tuning, when you get your EcuTek tune make sure you tell your tuner you live in MASS and want the tune delivered in the same ROM as what's in your car now

Hope that helps!

John

The way I understood it, and maybe you can clarify, was that MA knows which ids are allowed for the car. IE if you had 1VZ2D, 1VZ2C, 1VZ2B, 1VZ2A from your list and you were a 2012 G37 you were ok and would pass. However, I was told if its an unsupported/unknown ID like a euro tune, something not normally associated with the car, it would trigger a failure. Could you clarify at all? It would just be strange that having the ECU repaired/updated at the dealer or a shop on any make/model of car could trigger a trip to MAC. Obviously some of us have something to hide (IE removed emissions equipment) but 99% of the people that auto failure would catch would be stock.

visconti 01-02-2014 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalline (Post 2634889)
The way I understood it, and maybe you can clarify, was that MA knows which ids are allowed for the car. IE if you had 1VZ2D, 1VZ2C, 1VZ2B, 1VZ2A from your list and you were a 2012 G37 you were ok and would pass. However, I was told if its an unsupported/unknown ID like a euro tune, something not normally associated with the car, it would trigger a failure. Could you clarify at all? It would just be strange that having the ECU repaired/updated at the dealer or a shop on any make/model of car could trigger a trip to MAC. Obviously some of us have something to hide (IE removed emissions equipment) but 99% of the people that auto failure would catch would be stock.


From how I understand it they are keeping track of everyone ecu id during testing, coming in with a different ID could trigger a failure


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crystalline 01-02-2014 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by visconti (Post 2634890)
From how I understand it they are keeping track of everyone ecu id during testing, coming in with a different ID could trigger a failure


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This might be a silly question but say I got tuned back in 2010 and it was revision A, and I went back for a retune in 2014 and now there is a revision E out. Would the tuner automatically update/change to the newest ID when they did a retune?

Evil Sports 01-03-2014 08:48 AM

Not silly at all. The more we know the better

visconti 01-03-2014 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by crystalline (Post 2634906)
This might be a silly question but say I got tuned back in 2010 and it was revision A, and I went back for a retune in 2014 and now there is a revision E out. Would the tuner automatically update/change to the newest ID when they did a retune?


That's up to the tuner


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crystalline 01-03-2014 06:18 PM

I was re tuned after 2 years and it did not trigger a failure last summer when I got a sticker...

Evil Sports 01-03-2014 08:01 PM

Visco, so if I want to get my car done without getting hassled what exactly would I be asking for or looking for them tell me.

visconti 01-03-2014 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Sports (Post 2636378)
Visco, so if I want to get my car done without getting hassled what exactly would I be asking for or looking for them tell me.

Who's "them" ?

Evil Sports 01-04-2014 08:01 AM

A Uprev tuning shop here in Mass, Norwalk is a bit too far for me

ANMVQ 01-04-2014 09:24 AM

OK to jump in also with what I was also told.. . .

So if your ECU was 1VZ2D, 1VZ2C, 1VZ2B, 1VZ2A , ETC and you have a factory update done it changes the last digit. I know this for sure because I had an update when I removed my SC and had to get a stock reflash. Since then I tried to have my "old" UPREV tune flashed back to my car but was told the ROM changed due to the factory reflash. An I again have I MA sticker..

From all I have heard and gathered there are NO G oR Z guys with UPREV not getting stickers, Again its the Subby and EVO guys that have sensors shut off. I was talking to a tuner "Yes" UPREV guy and Ecutek and all the issue cars where cars with O2's, EGR's and other sensors shut off. OR Euro ECU's ROMS Like John said earlier.
An I still think it funny that the guys who started this is trying to extract info. :/

Evil Sports 01-04-2014 11:41 AM

Why is it Funny that I dont want to fugg up my car. Its not like hoards of people have come in here to verify Ma stickers and Im ignoring them.

rich2342 01-05-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 2636893)
OK to jump in also with what I was also told.. . .

So if your ECU was 1VZ2D, 1VZ2C, 1VZ2B, 1VZ2A , ETC and you have a factory update done it changes the last digit. I know this for sure because I had an update when I removed my SC and had to get a stock reflash. Since then I tried to have my "old" UPREV tune flashed back to my car but was told the ROM changed due to the factory reflash. An I again have I MA sticker..

From all I have heard and gathered there are NO G oR Z guys with UPREV not getting stickers, Again its the Subby and EVO guys that have sensors shut off. I was talking to a tuner "Yes" UPREV guy and Ecutek and all the issue cars where cars with O2's, EGR's and other sensors shut off. OR Euro ECU's ROMS Like John said earlier.
An I still think it funny that the guys who started this is trying to extract info. :/


You didn't hear from me... :rolleyes:

I was sent to a MAC last year after being re-tuned for an ART pipe install that same year. I was re-tuned by "guess who" no longer in bidness. They simply piggy backed on of my maps for the swap of hfc to ART pipe and xyz -pipe.

I went for inspection failed and referred to a MAC. I had to revert to stock Cats and de-tune which I did. I went to MAC and then was passed.

I was speaking with the guy and supposedly the software can detect any flash of the cars ECU if the digits are changed.

My problem now is I am up for inspection next month and don't want to go through all again.

Evil Sports 01-05-2014 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rich2342 (Post 2638241)
You didn't hear from me... :rolleyes:

I was sent to a MAC last year after being re-tuned for an ART pipe install that same year. I was re-tuned by "guess who" no longer in bidness. They simply piggy backed on of my maps for the swap of hfc to ART pipe and xyz -pipe.

I went for inspection failed and referred to a MAC. I had to revert to stock Cats and de-tune which I did. I went to MAC and then was passed.

I was speaking with the guy and supposedly the software can detect any flash of the cars ECU if the digits are changed.

My problem now is I am up for inspection next month and don't want to go through all again.

ANMVQ, allot to laugh about here^^:ugh2:

mag_black 01-12-2014 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rich2342 (Post 2638241)
You didn't hear from me... :rolleyes:

I was sent to a MAC last year after being re-tuned for an ART pipe install that same year. I was re-tuned by "guess who" no longer in bidness. They simply piggy backed on of my maps for the swap of hfc to ART pipe and xyz -pipe.

I went for inspection failed and referred to a MAC. I had to revert to stock Cats and de-tune which I did. I went to MAC and then was passed.

I was speaking with the guy and supposedly the software can detect any flash of the cars ECU if the digits are changed.

My problem now is I am up for inspection next month and don't want to go through all again.

Did you do anything to check for readiness before inspection? Did your tuner turn off o2's?

I have an inspection coming in 3 months, but my sensors are showing as ready. I'm going to head to the tuner to have him take a look at my ROM just to confirm. I feel confident that I'll pass.

ANMVQ 01-13-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Sports (Post 2638506)
ANMVQ, allot to laugh about here^^:ugh2:


there was , Did he check for readiness? Did have the the 02's turned off for his test pipes. So I did have a good one here. You are in here and looks like your trying to cause problems for UPREV( Heard you are a competitor ) If you want you tune so bad just go with the SUPER GREAT :rofl2: Ecutek

And again my ROM ID changed . The last digit changed when I got my "Stock reflash" and I still have a sticker.

Evil Sports 01-14-2014 05:40 AM

So there are only 2 people that can get their cars inspected that have them tuned in Mass. This is a pretty big forum for only 2 people to be responding. I dont give two s hits about Uprev or EcuTek and now believe for my NA car its not worth doing.

ANMVQ 01-14-2014 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Sports (Post 2650205)
So there are only 2 people that can get their cars inspected that have them tuned in Mass. This is a pretty big forum for only 2 people to be responding. I dont give two s hits about Uprev or EcuTek and now believe for my NA car its not worth doing.

If you don't care then stop posting about it, and until you go FI( Which I think will never be) then talk about something else. :tiphat:


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