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RustyM2001 04-12-2017 09:38 AM

:ugh2:Can we get back to dyno runs? GAINZ!

Nik@SOHO 04-12-2017 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustyM2001 (Post 3639826)
:ugh2:Can we get back to dyno runs? GAINZ!

We will be updating this thread this week with the most recent cars we have tuned! :)

Nik@SOHO 04-25-2017 02:28 PM

29. Vehicle: 2014 Nissan 370Z
Transmission: Manual
Modifications: Z1 upper plenum, Z1 intakes, Fast Intentions high flow cats and Fast Intentions catback exhaust
Fuel Octane: 93

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...psjcwfcnfh.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...sj8zpcyua.jpeg

Nik@SOHO 04-25-2017 02:43 PM

30. Vehicle: 2016 Nissan 370Z
Transmission: Auto
Modifications: Stillen Gen 3 Intakes, AAM Test Pipes, Gutted mufflers
Fuel Octane: 93

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...pstyk91j9v.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...psgklcl2kl.png

Spooler 04-26-2017 12:05 PM

What is the main reason you install a water/meth kit on TT cars. What benefit do you get out of it. How does it aid you in tuning?

BC416 04-26-2017 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3645650)
What is the main reason you install a water/meth kit on TT cars. What benefit do you get out of it. How does it aid you in tuning?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but in simple terms, its almost like running higher octane gas. It helps with temps, pre-detonation/knock, and allows you to up the boost or timing to make more power.

Spooler 04-26-2017 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3645673)
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but in simple terms, its almost like running higher octane gas. It helps with temps, pre-detonation/knock, and allows you to up the boost or timing to make more power.

Yeap, I already know this. I wanted to hear from Nik to see what he had to say.

Chuck33079 04-26-2017 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3645688)
Yeap, I already know this. I wanted to hear from Nik to see what he had to say.

My wild *** guess would be that the customer doesn't have access to E85.

Hotrodz 04-26-2017 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3645673)
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but in simple terms, its almost like running higher octane gas. It helps with temps, pre-detonation/knock, and allows you to up the boost or timing to make more power.

I understand that it can have that impact and it adds in cooling but they also use it on e85 systems as well. He tuned a car running e90 which is 114 octane and added meth to it so I'm also curious about the use of meth with e85 as it does not require additional cooling and you can remove a heck of a lot of timing using Ignite 114. I know, I'm tuned on it lol!

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Chuck33079 04-26-2017 01:13 PM

Meth + E85 makes no sense to me. E85 is already a higher octane than meth and burns just as cool. I must be missing something.

Hotrodz 04-26-2017 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3645701)
Meth + E85 makes no sense to me. E85 is already a higher octane than meth and burns just as cool. I must be missing something.

And that is the million dollar question!

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Nik@SOHO 04-26-2017 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3645650)
What is the main reason you install a water/meth kit on TT cars. What benefit do you get out of it. How does it aid you in tuning?

Water meth = Unicorn Tears :rofl2:

In all seriousness, the benefit of adding a water methanol injection systems aids in providing cooler intake charge temperature, increases octane, provides an additional 200 cc of fuel flow (depending on nozzle sizing), and is a great knock suppressant. In regards to how it aids in tuning, if it used with any fuel it will increase the octane rating even with E85 as the tendency for knock to occur is minimized. Consistency in power is another reason, with most fuels, especially on hot days you will notice a drop in power, the water is able to evaporate under the high temperatures in the cylinder and as it evaporates it is able to take the heat away with it. Where we are located a lot of gas stations do no have E85 so going with the 93 and water/meth is a great substitute as we have seen very similar numbers if not more power than E85. Hopefully this is able to answer your initial question. :)

Hotrodz 04-26-2017 05:50 PM

Thanks Nik!

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Spooler 04-26-2017 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik@SOHO (Post 3645770)
Water meth = Unicorn Tears :rofl2:

In all seriousness, the benefit of adding a water methanol injection systems aids in providing cooler intake charge temperature, increases octane, provides an additional 200 cc of fuel flow (depending on nozzle sizing), and is a great knock suppressant. In regards to how it aids in tuning, if it used with any fuel it will increase the octane rating even with E85 as the tendency for knock to occur is minimized. Consistency in power is another reason, with most fuels, especially on hot days you will notice a drop in power, the water is able to evaporate under the high temperatures in the cylinder and as it evaporates it is able to take the heat away with it. Where we are located a lot of gas stations do no have E85 so going with the 93 and water/meth is a great substitute as we have seen very similar numbers if not more power than E85. Hopefully this is able to answer your initial question. :)


Thank You. I likes Unicorn tears.

Nik@SOHO 04-28-2017 01:53 PM

31. Vehicle: 2014 Nissan 370Z
Transmission: Auto
Modifications: Stillen Gen 3 Intakes, 1320 Test Pipes, TopSpeed Exhaust
Fuel Octane: 93

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...psgionjgbz.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...spocbshbc.jpeg

Nik@SOHO 04-28-2017 01:56 PM

32. Vehicle: 2014 Nissan 370Z
Transmission: Auto
Modifications: K&N short-ram intakes
Fuel Octane: 93

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...psbaukdrjr.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...szku1veqr.jpeg

Nik@SOHO 05-06-2017 10:49 AM

33. Vehicle: 2013 Nissan 370Z
Transmission: Manual
Modifications: Z1 Intakes, Z1 Test Pipes, Fast Intentions TDX Exhaust
Fuel Octane: 93

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...psrczbi1ea.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...slnljutzp.jpeg

Nik@SOHO 05-24-2017 01:09 PM

*I know, I know its not a 370z :(*
34. Vehicle: 2014 Infiniti Q50S
Transmission: 7AT
Modifications: Takeda Intakes & Infiniti Axle Back
Fuel Octane: 93

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...psnesyebbn.jpg

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...sqbmjyze7.jpeg

takjak2 06-02-2017 04:41 PM

All these Zs with 8k revs... Those poor oil pump gears :/

Nik@SOHO 06-07-2017 08:14 AM

35. Vehicle: 2015 Nissan 370Z
Transmission: Manual
Modifications: Silicone intake tubes, K&N Drop ins, Fast Intentions resonated HFC, Fast Intentions Catback Exhaust
Fuel Octane: 93

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...psocivsazw.jpg

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...psdg7r5lln.jpg

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...scvylr9cp.jpeg

Final Numbers: (4th Gear)
313 rwhp
251 ft-lbs

Nik@SOHO 06-09-2017 06:05 PM

36. Vehicle: 2010 Nissan 370Z
Transmission: Manual
Modifications: Fast Intentions HFC, Fast Intentions Catback Exhaust, Stillen Gen 3
Fuel Octane: 93

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...psipabmn4m.jpg

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...sbcsdiuox.jpeg

Final Numbers: (4th Gear)
321 rwhp
251 ft-lbs

Kzonts 06-09-2017 08:20 PM

Temps were a bit warm today. I assume there would be a few more ponies with cooler temps?

Nik@SOHO 06-13-2017 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kzonts (Post 3662709)
Temps were a bit warm today. I assume there would be a few more ponies with cooler temps?

You are correct sir...it was close to 90 degrees in the dyno room :(

Nik@SOHO 06-20-2017 09:31 AM

37. Vehicle: 2012 Nissan 370Z
Transmission: Manual
Modifications: Fast Intentions Catback Exhaust, Stillen Gen 3
Fuel Octane: 93

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...psihrylgez.jpg

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...psxfht0sn9.jpg

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...s5uytgh2t.jpeg

Final Numbers: (4th Gear)
316 rwhp
247 ft-lbs

Nik@SOHO 06-30-2017 10:39 AM

Hang tight guys we are trying to resolve the issue with out photo hosting site :(

Nik@SOHO 07-25-2017 09:35 AM

38. Vehicle: 2009 Nissan 370Z
Transmission: Manual
Modifications: Fast Intentions Catback Exhaust, K&N Drop Ins
Fuel Octane: 93

** 189,000 miles**

https://i1.wp.com/sohomotorsports.co...792045_o-1.jpg

https://i2.wp.com/sohomotorsports.co...hare_0-17.jpeg


**Red line is a fourth gear pull and the blue line is a fifth gear pull**

SG4247 07-25-2017 08:37 PM

189K on the original long block?

Wow!

Gregor12 07-26-2017 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3678695)
189K on the original long block?

Wow!



Yup, original long block!


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Nik@SOHO 07-27-2017 06:54 AM

39. Vehicle: 2014 Nissan 370Z
Transmission: Manual
Modifications: AAM Twin Turbo Kit,Fast Intentions Catback Exhaust, Z1 Motorsports ported lower and upper
Fuel Octane: 93

https://i0.wp.com/sohomotorsports.co...836054_o-1.jpg

https://i2.wp.com/sohomotorsports.co...c3a2a-1-1.jpeg

*Fourth Gear pull*

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/eUBIwOCg1O4

jwick 07-27-2017 07:56 AM

That torque curve is flat like a table top. That's got to be a ton of fun to drive!

Nismodean 07-28-2017 12:19 PM

I don't get the 4th gear pulls, 5th is 1:1....

Nik@SOHO 07-28-2017 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismodean (Post 3680119)
I don't get the 4th gear pulls, 5th is 1:1....

Less load on the clutch

Jayhovah 07-28-2017 12:28 PM

Revving all the way to 7800 on boost? What are your thoughts on that Nik?

Nik@SOHO 07-28-2017 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3680130)
Revving all the way to 7800 on boost? What are your thoughts on that Nik?

Stock throttle cut is 7500, we set the rev limiter to 7700 (stock rev limiter is 7650), we have not seen any issues in regards to revving up to that RPM. I know there are a number of guys who have run into issues with their oil pumps failing before then or slightly after that range. Then again it is a stock component that was not made to see these RPM levels over an extended period of time, with that being said there is additional stress that is being put on this component.

Jayhovah 07-28-2017 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik@SOHO (Post 3680141)
Stock throttle cut is 7500, we set the rev limiter to 7700 (stock rev limiter is 7650), we have not seen any issues in regards to revving up to that RPM. I know there are a number of guys who have run into issues with their oil pumps failing before then or slightly after that range. Then again it is a stock component that was not made to see these RPM levels over an extended period of time, with that being said there is additional stress that is being put on this component.

Thanks! I know (at least in layman's terms) that revs stress a motor more than boost does so I have often seen tuners actually lower the rev limit on boosted cars.. You guys have a good rep though so just wanted to your thoughts on it. :tup:

Nismodean 07-28-2017 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik@SOHO (Post 3680125)
Less load on the clutch

Get a clutch that's worth a damn then, when you showed the 4th vs 5th gear pull it's clear that 4th gear pulls are not truly representative of your tuning capability.

Hotrodz 07-28-2017 02:56 PM

5th gear pulls are just about numbers and are known as glory pulls. The tuning will still be done in 4th gear! Numbers don't really mean much other than bragging rights. I and many that actually use car at the track or for pure pleasure are most concerned in how the car performs over baseline on the road and track.

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jwick 07-28-2017 03:13 PM

SOHO Motorsports & Ecutek Tuning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3680195)
5th gear pulls are just about numbers and are known as glory pulls. The tuning will still be done in 4th gear! Numbers don't really mean much other than bragging rights. I and many that actually use car at the track or for pure pleasure are most concerned in how the car performs over baseline on the road and track.

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Yup. Dude doesn't realize that 99% of the dyno graphs on this site are 4th gear pulls.

Hotrodz 07-28-2017 04:18 PM

There seems to be a lot of I know what I don't know going around!

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Elmo370z 07-28-2017 06:55 PM

2nd that.


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