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because you won't use a lot of the bolt on parts and you won't be able to sell it 50% of what you paid. so it's considered a waste of
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because you won't use a lot of the bolt on parts and you won't be able to sell it 50% of what you paid. so it's considered a waste of money to buy those parts when you know for sure you'll boost it.
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Definitely not a waste man, its all about the journey with modding. Trying different things, better stuff comes out, personal preference in performance levels...every single car ive ever owned ive changed my mind on parts and routes from the original idea when first got the car
Just saw your build thread too. Very nice
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Agree with Nick , here.
The VQ has been refinded from the factory, You get some WHP out of bolt ons and tune, but one thing I wouldnt invest in is headers, The PIA of install, cost of them, and added noise ( Long tubes) isnt worth it, Ex my buddy is fully bolted and tuned and he made 316 WHP ( 370 Z 6 spd) on a high? Dyno. I made 302 WHP on a "low" dyno and I have a auto AWD sedan, I'm would bet you strap his car to my dyno and we'll make very close numbers and for 5-6 WHP the headers are worth the $800 they cost + install :/ Just my .02
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Please... If you can open up a DE, you can open up a VHR. In this case if the high flow cats and crappy stillen headers were replaced with FI LTH plus a retune there would absoluty be gains. Nothing insane, but about 8-10rwhp is very feasible. This motor is not tapped out from the factory, but what are you expecting here? Cam gains on a pushrod?? No... Motordyne is also working on a lth... You dont think gains will be made there... A couple years ago 315-320 was the norm this motor made FB....Fast forward, im seeing 325-330. This motor imho will be close to its limits na around 340-350 with its heads and considering they dyno stock around 280,... Even being at 330rwhp is a 50rwhp gain. Again. Far from tapped out
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And to the comment about this not being a coyote 5.0 motor, my 13 5.0 made 382 rwhp bonestock and after full bolts and tune i managed to squeeze out 430rwhp and thats without tearing into the motor of doing cams or heads... Very on par with FBO gains from VHR.
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Either way, only way to solve this is to so back to back testing with someone's car at this level and see. If be game if ppl want to pay for it? Lol
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Those are solid results Dreamer but i think the general question or dispute is over gains when the car is near maxed out for add ons. When i first saw those i really wanted to get LTH, then i got that deal on the headers and cats and here we are. FI makes great stuff tho and if i cant fabricate a way to keep my exhaust with the turbo system next year ill be getting an exhaust from them.
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the BP kit, i saw a photo with the Motordyne exhaust hooked up but then later read it hooked to FI. idk, i can sorta weld(still learning and will practice more) and have the equipment. Was going to talk to Sasha when i dropped the money on his kit and see if he had a solution or if id need to fabricate.
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Mozen is correct though, curious to see results with key changes when going full tilt on bolt ons, but with out motors it is tight to really push farther & farther and be reasonable about cost when for equal you can add boost and have all the power you want (which is what I ended up doing).
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