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osbornsm 07-08-2015 10:31 AM

ECUTEK - Everything
 
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- ECUTEK Wiki for the 370z -
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There are two different versions of ECUTEK software:
  1. ProECU - Tuning Suite - you want this version
  2. ProECU - Programming kit not avail for 370z
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1. Off-the-Shelf Tune
- Suitable for a 370Z/G37/Q50 w or w/o a cat-back exhaust and stock-sized intakes.
- Price: $650

Features:
  • Raises RPM Limit
  • Improves Fuel Economy
  • Adjusts Ignition Timing
  • Adjusts VVT Timing
  • Removes Speed Limiter
  • Raises MAX Cruise Control Thresholds
  • RaceRom Launch Control
  • RaceRom Flat Foot Shifting
  • Four Way Map Switching - 2x 91OCT & 2x 93OCT Maps
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2. Custom Tune - RaceROM
- Suitable for any modded 370Z/G37/Q50.
- Fine-tune adjustments based on data logs generated while on dyno.
- Price: $850

Features include all of the previous ^^, plus ++:
  • Map Switching - Rev counter indication of the four different map switch modes
  • Speed Density - MAP sensor based tuning with VVEL compensation
  • RaceROM Controller - Use the cruise control switch gear for adjusting calibration
  • Knock Warning - Check engine light flashes when knocking is detected
  • Per Gear Rev Limit - A customizable Rev limit for each gear
  • Launch Control - Adjustable Launch RPM using the cruise control (Manual Transmission models only)
  • Traction Control - Adjustable traction control using custom maps
  • Boost Control - Closed loop boost control using custom maps
  • Flex-Fuel - Ethanol flex-fuel tuning using custom maps
  • AFR Control - Closed loop target AFR control using custom maps
  • Fail-Safe - Protect the engine from any dangerous situations
  • Gauge Hijack - Display lambda, AFR, fuel trims or ethanol content on the oil temp gauge
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If the Custom features are something you NEED. Then tell your tuner you want THAT version.
The Off-the-Shelf tune, does NOT include all features.

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- ECUTEK Tips -
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Make sure you have a good working relationship with the tuner you select.
  • Sebastian @ Specialty Z does an excellent job of tuning and customer service.
  1. Take advantage of the Adjustable traction control option, via Temp gauge hi-jack.
  2. Take advantage of low / med / high tune for different temperatures
  3. Have the throttle response changed to linear (stock is wacky)
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Deans Performance hosted dyno - Tune by Seb @ SpecialtyZ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZj-rLdWWuc

Blighter 07-08-2015 10:44 AM

Noob question, so can you use flex fuel / e85 after a custom tune?

Elmo370z 07-08-2015 10:58 AM

Any pro tuners in florida

osbornsm 07-08-2015 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3250586)
Any pro tuners in florida

EcuTek - Find a Tuner

Select 370z off the drop-down @ the left.
There's 2 in Florida.

Chuck33079 07-08-2015 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm (Post 3250594)
This is correct, presuming you have a map tuned for said fuels.

And a flex fuel sensor, right?

Awgd8 07-08-2015 11:07 AM

Thanks for posting OP!

Awgd8 07-08-2015 11:29 AM

just wondering if you can transition from " Off The Shelf Tune " to " Custom tune " by just paying the difference in price and using the same tuning software kit?

Let say I am all stock now with Off the shelft tune, then after a few months , I decided to modify performance hardware and want a custom tune.

Meulen 07-08-2015 11:29 AM

Sean! if you're going to do this will you LMK how it goes? They REALLY alienated the Midwest! Not sure how that street tune works

Hotrodz 07-08-2015 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3250597)
And a flex fuel sensor, right?

That is correct...

Mozen 07-08-2015 12:34 PM

Im headed to have PTuning tune and dyno my 370z on the 25th. Ill post the results and info.

PWR Mods are: NST Pullies, Gen3 CAI, Stillen Headers, Z1 HFC, Motordyne CBE, Z1 Int. Mani, Polished TBs.

TerribleONE 07-08-2015 12:35 PM

I am curious what they mean by adjustable traction control. I wonder if they are able to adjust it to allow a little more slip? Would be nice for those damp cold mornings since right now it is so invasive the first thing I do when I get in the car is turn it off.

Meulen 07-08-2015 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3250675)
I am curious what they mean by adjustable traction control. I wonder if they are able to adjust it to allow a little more slip? Would be nice for those damp cold mornings since right now it is so invasive the first thing I do when I get in the car is turn it off.


yeah, I'm not boosted and anytime I drive hard my lights are flashing and it slows down the motor. Even if there is very minimal slip. Seems the VDC is VERY conservative.

osbornsm 07-08-2015 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meulen (Post 3250692)
yeah, I'm not boosted and anytime I drive hard my lights are flashing and it slows down the motor. Even if there is very minimal slip. Seems the VDC is VERY conservative.

You're right, it is.

And yes, if you get the custom tune version you can have an adjustable-level traction-control system. Seems almost worth it just for that. *scratches chin

I will def let the group know how the e-tune goes, presuming i find the $650 anytime soon. Just hope i'm not another beta tester for products. :tup:

Mozen 07-08-2015 01:40 PM

I've been etuned for a while and was not happy...more with the tuner tho but I'm not going to bash. I have heard of great results from Visconti tho

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Meulen 07-08-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mozen (Post 3250773)
I've been etuned for a while and was not happy...more with the tuner tho but I'm not going to bash. I have heard of great results from Visconti tho

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my worry is the tune you will get through emailing files vs. a tuner on a dyno

Mozen 07-08-2015 01:56 PM

If you log like they want you to you shod be fine...my issue was with the tuner and the amount of effort/care they put into my file and business. Again I have heard great things about e tune with Visconti tho

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VincentLe 07-08-2015 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Awgd8 (Post 3250621)
just wondering if you can transition from " Off The Shelf Tune " to " Custom tune " by just paying the difference in price and using the same tuning software kit?

Let say I am all stock now with Off the shelft tune, then after a few months , I decided to modify performance hardware and want a custom tune.

I have the same question. ^

ANMVQ 07-08-2015 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mozen (Post 3250773)
I've been etuned for a while and was not happy...more with the tuner tho but I'm not going to bash. I have heard of great results from Visconti tho

Sent from my XT1032 using Tapatalk

He is good I'm very happy with my Etune from him. 105 MPH traps in a full weight AWD Auto sedan FTW :)

visconti 07-09-2015 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm (Post 3250514)
Hello all and welcome to the most coherent knowledge i was able to piece together while being jet-lagged.

== ECUTEK ==
http://www.ecutek.com/getattachment/...lackColour.png

There are two different versions of ECUTEK software:
  1. ProECU - Tuning Suite - you want this version
  2. ProECU - Programming kit not avail for 370z
---------------------------------------------------------------

Moving right along, there are a further two versions of the Tuning Suite software.
  1. Off-the-Shelf Tune
    • Suitable for a 370Z/G37/Q50 w or w/o a cat-back exhaust and stock-sized intakes.
  2. Custom Tune
    • Suitable for any modded 370Z/G37/Q50.
    • Fine-tune adjustments based on datalogs generated while on the street or dyno.
---------------------------------------------------------------

1. Off-the-Shelf Tune
- Price: $650
- Features:
  • Raises RPM Limit
  • Improves Fuel Economy
  • Adjusts Ignition Timing
  • Adjusts VVT Timing
  • Removes Speed Limiter
  • Raises MAX Cruise Control Thresholds
  • RaceRom Launch Control
  • RaceRom Flat Foot Shifting
  • Four Way Map Switching - 2x 91OCT & 2x 93OCT Maps
---------------------------------------------------------------

2. Custom Tune - RaceROM
- Price: $850
- Features include all of the previous ^^, plus ++:
  • Map Switching - Rev counter indication of the four different map switch modes
  • Speed Density - MAP sensor based tuning with VVEL compensation
  • RaceROM Controller - Use the cruise control switch gear for adjusting calibration
  • Knock Warning - Check engine light flashes when knocking is detected
  • Per Gear Rev Limit - A customizable Rev limit for each gear
  • Launch Control - Adjustable Launch RPM using the cruise control (Manual Transmission models only)
  • Traction Control - Adjustable traction control using custom maps
  • Boost Control - Closed loop boost control using custom maps
  • Flex-Fuel - Ethanol flex-fuel tuning using custom maps
  • AFR Control - Closed loop target AFR control using custom maps
  • Fail-Safe - Protect the engine from any dangerous situations
  • Gauge Hijack - Display lambda, AFR, fuel trims or ethanol content on the oil temp gauge
---------------------------------------------------------------

If the Custom features are something you NEED. Then tell your tuner you want THAT version.
The Off-the-Shelf tune, does NOT include all features.

Just wanted to chime in, most of this information is actually from my website - Nissan 370Z/G37/Q50 Tune – Visconti Tuning

What's important to understand is EcuTek does not provide any type of Flash&Go / Basemaps / OFF-THE-SHELF maps like COBB does. All off-the-shelf maps for 370z that can be purchased from my website is something that I've personally worked on over the past two years. These tunes are designed for someone who doesn't have all their bolt-ons installed yet but want advanced logging ability, improved throttle response or some of the features like Launch Control / Flat Foot Shifting. I strongly recommend that when you finish purchasing all your bolt-ons that you get a custom tune. Several people have actually opted for custom tune right from the start, later if they add more mods there will be a small fee to update the tune.

Not all EcuTek Dealers are going to offer services the same way I do, but from working with other platforms I found this approach to work the best for everyone.

EcuTek's Custom Code called "RaceRom" includes both hard coded features like Map Switching, Valet Mode, Launch Control, Flat Foot Shifting, Gauge Hijack and something called Custom Maps. Custom Maps is exactly how it sounds, it's a blank map that can be re-purposed for different things - Flex Fuel , Boost Control, or Fuel System Fail safe. This is something that the tuner has to spend a good amount of time setting up correctly. To setup Flex Fuel you'll need about 5 custom maps, it's a lot of work and although EcuTek does provide some example data it still requires the tuner to know what they are doing.. There's no way for Tuner A's Flex Fuel setup to be the same as Tuner B's.. Tuner A might have a better approach to flex fuel or traction control - you just never know and to me that's the beauty of custom maps, flexible and makes the good tuners really shine.


Advanced Custom Features like Flex Fuel, Traction Control, Fuel System Failsafes can be part of any custom tune, if your getting a tune from me it'll be at a added expense.

Let me know if you have anymore questions

John

AnthonyD1978 07-09-2015 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visconti (Post 3251672)
Just wanted to chime in, most of this information is actually from my website - Nissan 370Z/G37/Q50 Tune – Visconti Tuning

What's important to understand is EcuTek does not provide any type of Flash&Go / Basemaps / OFF-THE-SHELF maps like COBB does. All off-the-shelf maps for 370z that can be purchased from my website is something that I've personally worked on over the past two years. These tunes are designed for someone who doesn't have all their bolt-ons installed yet but want advanced logging ability, improved throttle response or some of the features like Launch Control / Flat Foot Shifting. I strongly recommend that when you finish purchasing all your bolt-ons that you get a custom tune. Several people have actually opted for custom tune right from the start, later if they add more mods there will be a small fee to update the tune.

Not all EcuTek Dealers are going to offer services the same way I do, but from working with other platforms I found this approach to work the best for everyone.

EcuTek's Custom Code called "RaceRom" includes both hard coded features like Map Switching, Valet Mode, Launch Control, Flat Foot Shifting, Gauge Hijack and something called Custom Maps. Custom Maps is exactly how it sounds, it's a blank map that can be re-purposed for different things - Flex Fuel , Boost Control, or Fuel System Fail safe. This is something that the tuner has to spend a good amount of time setting up correctly. To setup Flex Fuel you'll need about 5 custom maps, it's a lot of work and although EcuTek does provide some example data it still requires the tuner to know what they are doing.. There's no way for Tuner A's Flex Fuel setup to be the same as Tuner B's.. Tuner A might have a better approach to flex fuel or traction control - you just never know and to me that's the beauty of custom maps, flexible and makes the good tuners really shine.


Advanced Custom Features like Flex Fuel, Traction Control, Fuel System Failsafes can be part of any custom tune, if your getting a tune from me it'll be at a added expense.

Let me know if you have anymore questions

John

One thing that John uses that sets him apart from others is his Tuner Assist software. It's very convenient for customers to manage their tunes and logs during the eTune process. I'm currently working with John on my tune now and it works great.

John, can you speak to the traction control feature? Is there anyway to disable the yaw sensor via tune? Many track people manually disable this sensor to get rid of "ice mode". This is done by physically pulling the yaw sensor harness. I would love to have a "track" map I can select that disables the yaw sensor and VDC at the same time. It should still keep ABS active though.

Thanks.

visconti 07-09-2015 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyD1978 (Post 3251704)
One thing that John uses that sets him apart from others is his Tuner Assist software. It's very convenient for customers to manage their tunes and logs during the eTune process. I'm currently working with John on my tune now and it works great.

John, can you speak to the traction control feature? Is there anyway to disable the yaw sensor via tune? Many track people manually disable this sensor to get rid of "ice mode". This is done by physically pulling the yaw sensor harness. I would love to have a "track" map I can select that disables the yaw sensor and VDC at the same time. It should still keep ABS active though.

Thanks.

I completely forgot about Tuner Assist!

Yes I have built a desktop application that helps you manage both your Tune and Log files.. No searching for emails or trying to figure out where firefox saved your Tune file - everything is in Tuner Assist!


As for the OEM Traction Control, EcuTek has figured out how to disable the factory traction control system on some of the ROMs... If anyone is having to unpug a yaw sensor to prevent traction control from working this might be something to have your tuner to try.. If it's not defined on your ROM I'm sure a case can be made to EcuTek to have them look for the needed Maps in the ROM


John

AnthonyD1978 07-09-2015 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visconti (Post 3251714)
I completely forgot about Tuner Assist!

Yes I have built a desktop application that helps you manage both your Tune and Log files.. No searching for emails or trying to figure out where firefox saved your Tune file - everything is in Tuner Assist!


As for the OEM Traction Control, EcuTek has figured out how to disable the factory traction control system on some of the ROMs... If anyone is having to unpug a yaw sensor to prevent traction control from working this might be something to have your tuner to try.. If it's not defined on your ROM I'm sure a case can be made to EcuTek to have them look for the needed Maps in the ROM


John

Yeah, we have to pull the yaw sensor to fully disable traction control. Otherwise if you have oversteer or understeer in a turn and try to use the brakes to correct your angle the car goes into "ice mode" thinking you're losing control. It tries to straighten the car out mid-corner which is very obtrusive and borderline dangerous (in an understeer situation).

Maybe the current RaceRom traction control already disables it????

If you can figure out a way to disable the yaw sensor via a map that would be a big win.

abm89 07-09-2015 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyD1978 (Post 3251720)
Yeah, we have to pull the yaw sensor to fully disable traction control. Otherwise if you have oversteer or understeer in a turn and try to use the brakes to correct your angle the car goes into "ice mode" thinking you're losing control. It tries to straighten the car out mid-corner which is very obtrusive and borderline dangerous (in an understeer situation).

Maybe the current RaceRom traction control already disables it????

If you can figure out a way to disable the yaw sensor via a map that would be a big win.

I'm with you on this. I would like to have better control of my braking system instead of the car thinking I'm on ice.

Memphis370Z 07-09-2015 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visconti (Post 3251714)
I completely forgot about Tuner Assist!

Yes I have built a desktop application that helps you manage both your Tune and Log files.. No searching for emails or trying to figure out where firefox saved your Tune file - everything is in Tuner Assist!

John

This. Tuner Assist made the process extremely easy and, essentially, idiot-proof. Kudos to you, John, for developing the application.

avery370z 07-09-2015 11:35 PM

[QUOTE=Mozen;3250673]Im headed to have PTuning tune and dyno my 370z on the 25th. Ill post the results and info.

PWR Mods are: NST Pullies, Gen3 CAI, Stillen Headers, Z1 HFC, Motordyne CBE, Z1

I hope you have a great experience with PTuning. They did my Z and i was pleased with the Ecutek race rom.

hjo1078 07-14-2015 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3252127)
This. Tuner Assist made the process extremely easy and, essentially, idiot-proof. Kudos to you, John, for developing the application.

Its so easy, my wife does all the data logging for me and sets up my tuner assist for me. Lol. :tup:

Mozen 07-14-2015 11:08 AM

[QUOTE=avery370z;3252456]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mozen (Post 3250673)
Im headed to have PTuning tune and dyno my 370z on the 25th. Ill post the results and info.

PWR Mods are: NST Pullies, Gen3 CAI, Stillen Headers, Z1 HFC, Motordyne CBE, Z1

I hope you have a great experience with PTuning. They did my Z and i was pleased with the Ecutek race rom.

I can't wait. Car is at a local shop to get the exhaust right. Stillen gen 1 headers are lower than they should be and its causing a slight exhaust leak. After that though I'm ready to go. Very excited.

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Awgd8 07-14-2015 07:24 PM

So John, my only mods are 10 Ibs weight loss , 17" lighr rims (17.5 Ibs) and a pair of Pro dry air filter. If i get the custom tune, do I have a free 1 year update or etune when I added bolts on pars within that year ? How much do yoy charge to retune after new bolts on added?

visconti 07-15-2015 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Awgd8 (Post 3256795)
So John, my only mods are 10 Ibs weight loss , 17" lighr rims (17.5 Ibs) and a pair of Pro dry air filter. If i get the custom tune, do I have a free 1 year update or etune when I added bolts on pars within that year ? How much do yoy charge to retune after new bolts on added?

We offer free tune updates for our off-the-shelf maps, if we find a way to make more power or improve throttle response we'll update our off-the-shelf mapping.
We also will update the tune if EcuTek has improved some kind of feature or datalogging.

This doesn't mean we retune you every time you add parts, I would love to promise something like that but I would quickly go out of business working for free!

For anyone who has purchased a custom tune and wants their tune refreshed they can purchase a "tune update" on our website

Let me know if you have anymore questions

John

Irishrogue 07-15-2015 02:39 PM

So am I understanding this right, with ECUTEK I can't physically change or tune anything myself, I just gather data logs that are sent to a tuner who then makes a tune for me? Is there any options where I can have access to the software myself, if for example, I have experience tuning with similar software or know a tuner who is not yet an official ECUTEK 'master tuner'?

visconti 07-15-2015 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishrogue (Post 3257716)
So am I understanding this right, with ECUTEK I can't physically change or tune anything myself, I just gather data logs that are sent to a tuner who then makes a tune for me? Is there any options where I can have access to the software myself, if for example, I have experience tuning with similar software or know a tuner who is not yet an official ECUTEK 'master tuner'?

EcuTek currently does not have enduser software for the 370z platform.

Only an EcuTek dealer who has purchased the tuning suit can edit 370Z maps.

John

Irishrogue 07-15-2015 05:16 PM

I see, thanks for clearing that up for me, I appreciate it.

Awgd8 07-18-2015 10:53 PM

I am curious about the " Guage Hijack " feature. Do all ROM have this? I am more interested to see AFR on my dash... (Q40 awd sedan)

Mozen 07-26-2015 01:29 PM

Just got a full tune yesterday from Ptuning using Ecutek and love it Car is completely different and all the small mods finally make sense and perform. Check out Ptuning or Visconti. You will not be disappointed!

Awgd8 07-26-2015 03:34 PM

So for the G37x sedan , what is the ideal safe redline RPM to hit the fastest 0-60 on 1st and 2nd gear only. Is this Per gear max RPM feature applicable to the sedan like my 2015 Q40? I will soon get the ECUtek kit and I still need to ROM Dump..

avery370z 07-26-2015 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mozen (Post 3267519)
Just got a full tune yesterday from Ptuning using Ecutek and love it Car is completely different and all the small mods finally make sense and perform. Check out Ptuning or Visconti. You will not be disappointed!

Did you get any gains from switching over?

Mozen 07-26-2015 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avery370z (Post 3267752)
Did you get any gains from switching over?

Absolutely however not sure how much. Since all my original tunes were e tunes and no dyno its hard to qualify. That said, its night and day difference. Power is on demand and there immediately and smooth through all gears. No complaints!

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abm89 07-26-2015 10:26 PM

One of my friends got a re-tune with EcuTek.. There were increasing gains as you go higher in the rev range. He also noted the car was more responsive.

ANMVQ 07-27-2015 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Awgd8 (Post 3267576)
So for the G37x sedan , what is the ideal safe redline RPM to hit the fastest 0-60 on 1st and 2nd gear only. Is this Per gear max RPM feature applicable to the sedan like my 2015 Q40? I will soon get the ECUtek kit and I still need to ROM Dump..

I'm was hitting 7800 ( RPM Gauge) on every WOT shift @ the track. :driving:

avery370z 07-27-2015 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mozen (Post 3267803)
Absolutely however not sure how much. Since all my original tunes were e tunes and no dyno its hard to qualify. That said, its night and day difference. Power is on demand and there immediately and smooth through all gears. No complaints!

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Im glad everything worked out good for you Mozen.


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