Nissan 370Z Forum  

KW v3 track set up?

if the car is a track car mostly then I wouldn't have gone with kw v3, the v3 are mainly a mild street car setup than a track setup. You

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Track / Autocross / Drifting / Dragstrip


Like Tree4Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-20-2014, 01:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
martin82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: los angeles
Posts: 2,636
Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MB M6
Rep Power: 21
martin82 has much to be proud ofmartin82 has much to be proud ofmartin82 has much to be proud ofmartin82 has much to be proud ofmartin82 has much to be proud ofmartin82 has much to be proud ofmartin82 has much to be proud ofmartin82 has much to be proud ofmartin82 has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to martin82
Default

if the car is a track car mostly then I wouldn't have gone with kw v3, the v3 are mainly a mild street car setup than a track setup. You will notice it is a bit too soft for track once push hard. Either way, it will work.
My alignment is at around -3.3- 3.5 front and toed out, rear is now also at -3.3 (previously -2.2 and 0 toe) and now 1/16 toe in. This has been working well for me for Hankook Rs3
martin82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2014, 02:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
JWillis72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Fort Myers FL
Posts: 2,002
Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT
Rep Power: 46
JWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by martin82 View Post
if the car is a track car mostly then I wouldn't have gone with kw v3, the v3 are mainly a mild street car setup than a track setup. You will notice it is a bit too soft for track once push hard. Either way, it will work.
My alignment is at around -3.3- 3.5 front and toed out, rear is now also at -3.3 (previously -2.2 and 0 toe) and now 1/16 toe in. This has been working well for me for Hankook Rs3
What kind of coilovers would you use?
JWillis72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2014, 02:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17153
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JWillis72 View Post
What kind of coilovers would you use?
He's using a $6-9k set of JRZs, LOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL
__________________
Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from?
( Click to show/hide )
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2014, 08:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
DR_
Track Member
 
DR_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Dallas
Posts: 981
Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG
Rep Power: 19
DR_ is a jewel in the roughDR_ is a jewel in the roughDR_ is a jewel in the rough
Default

I have the BC ER series, which are often compared to the KW v3. I'm currently on 275f/305r RS3

Front
-3.3 camber and 1/16 toe out +8 caster with 12k springs, Eibach front swaybar at full stiff. Compression and rebound towards the stiff end.

Rear
-2 camber and 1/16 toe in with 10k springs, Stillen rear swaybar at full soft. Compression and rebound about in the middle.
DR_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2014, 09:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
Track Member
 
GSS138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 769
Drives: '12 370Z 6M Sport
Rep Power: 15
GSS138 is a jewel in the roughGSS138 is a jewel in the roughGSS138 is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DR_ View Post
I have the BC ER series, which are often compared to the KW v3. I'm currently on 275f/305r RS3

Front
-3.3 camber and 1/16 toe out +8 caster with 12k springs, Eibach front swaybar at full stiff. Compression and rebound towards the stiff end.

Rear
-2 camber and 1/16 toe in with 10k springs, Stillen rear swaybar at full soft. Compression and rebound about in the middle.
That's almost my exact setup, cept I have 12k rear, and 10 k front. I am thinking though of swapping the springs around. Is the Eibach front stiffer than the stillen? I have stillen full stiff front full soft rear. I would say the front is still a bit soft with the stillen and 10K springs.
__________________
Current Mods: Vorpal Weapon +5.
GSS138 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2014, 10:51 AM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
speedfreek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Huntsville,AL
Posts: 1,724
Drives: '12 370Z PW 6sp
Rep Power: 20
speedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant future
Default

I have Fortune Auto and running 12k front and 10k rear. The front still isn't stiff enough I was bottoming out at AMP in turn 11. I am only lowered as much as the drop Swift springs would provide.
cossie1600 likes this.
__________________
Tomei|Berk|Takeda|ZSpeed|Fortune Auto|Swift|Eibach|SPL|Carbotech|Motul|Powertrix|Stillen|Aerojacket|Z1|Forgestar|Enkei|Project Kics|Nismo Ti|Llumar
speedfreek's journal
speedfreek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2014, 02:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
Track Member
 
GSS138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Posts: 769
Drives: '12 370Z 6M Sport
Rep Power: 15
GSS138 is a jewel in the roughGSS138 is a jewel in the roughGSS138 is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by speedfreek View Post
I have Fortune Auto and running 12k front and 10k rear. The front still isn't stiff enough I was bottoming out at AMP in turn 11. I am only lowered as much as the drop Swift springs would provide.
Good to hear. My opinion of 12k Rear is that it is a pretty good rate for the rear, but is maybe a tad on the stiff side. I was having the rear starting to brake loose at chuckwalla which has a lot of high speed sweepers. It wasn't anything too crazy, but it started to skate-was actually kind of fun but not ideal.

I really like the way 12k rear feels in terms of grip and controllability, but I am also wishing I had a wing to keep it planted. I had thought about swapping from 10/12 to 12/10, but I am thinking that more like 15/12 is what I am going to do. My guess is that I might have the same problem in the front once I do that and then require some downforce up there as well.

I would say that overall 10/12 is not a bad setup and is a pretty good stepping stone. However it's not really great either. Front is still to rolly polly, and the rear is actually really darn good, but yeah needs aero to tame it a bit on the high speed stuff.
__________________
Current Mods: Vorpal Weapon +5.
GSS138 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2014, 02:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
speedfreek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Huntsville,AL
Posts: 1,724
Drives: '12 370Z PW 6sp
Rep Power: 20
speedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant futurespeedfreek has a brilliant future
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GSS138 View Post
Good to hear. My opinion of 12k Rear is that it is a pretty good rate for the rear, but is maybe a tad on the stiff side. I was having the rear starting to brake loose at chuckwalla which has a lot of high speed sweepers. It wasn't anything too crazy, but it started to skate-was actually kind of fun but not ideal.

I really like the way 12k rear feels in terms of grip and controllability, but I am also wishing I had a wing to keep it planted. I had thought about swapping from 10/12 to 12/10, but I am thinking that more like 15/12 is what I am going to do. My guess is that I might have the same problem in the front once I do that and then require some downforce up there as well.

I would say that overall 10/12 is not a bad setup and is a pretty good stepping stone. However it's not really great either. Front is still to rolly polly, and the rear is actually really darn good, but yeah needs aero to tame it a bit on the high speed stuff.
Without the added downforce I think 10k is good in the rear, at least for me. I am thinking of going up to 14k in the front and see how that works. I do not have to revalve if I only change the spring rate by 2K+/-. I am more of a beginner in this track setup so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I can only comment on how my setup is performing. I am sure you are way faster than I am with more experience in this arena.
__________________
Tomei|Berk|Takeda|ZSpeed|Fortune Auto|Swift|Eibach|SPL|Carbotech|Motul|Powertrix|Stillen|Aerojacket|Z1|Forgestar|Enkei|Project Kics|Nismo Ti|Llumar
speedfreek's journal
speedfreek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2014, 01:17 PM   #9 (permalink)
DR_
Track Member
 
DR_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Dallas
Posts: 981
Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG
Rep Power: 19
DR_ is a jewel in the roughDR_ is a jewel in the roughDR_ is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GSS138 View Post
That's almost my exact setup, cept I have 12k rear, and 10 k front. I am thinking though of swapping the springs around. Is the Eibach front stiffer than the stillen? I have stillen full stiff front full soft rear. I would say the front is still a bit soft with the stillen and 10K springs.
Yes the Eibach front is much stiffer than the Stillen, which is what I before the Eibach. However I want to try even stiffer in the front so I'm considering the Progress front bar next, and/or go up to 14k front springs. I would like to also try the Hotchkis but it is barely stiffer than the Progress and you have to buy the worthless rear.
DR_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2014 MVP Track Time Road Atlanta Track Dates Feffman South East Region 1 06-11-2014 05:27 PM
MVP Track Time 2014 Midwest Track Dates Feffman Mid Western Region 5 05-31-2014 06:38 AM
2013 Road Atlanta Track Dates - MVP Track Time Feffman South East Region 3 10-05-2013 08:22 AM
$125 Track Day@Willow Springs-Big Track- April 20 in SoCal Extremespeed Track / Autocross / Drifting / Dragstrip 0 03-30-2013 01:12 AM
United touge/track drivers Streets of Willow Track Day K.R.O.P.S. Southern California Region 0 10-05-2011 07:25 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2