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Chicago Region ALWAYS has 6 runs...always. Which region do you run? Only 3 runs, and I would be a bit put off also... Tracy Ramsey

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Chicago Region ALWAYS has 6 runs...always. Which region do you run? Only 3 runs, and I would be a bit put off also...

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Are you only attending national-level events where contingencies are on the line, or are you actually running into this stuff at local SCCA-affiliated events?
I have done them all and didnt enjoy most of them. I have had to work 2.5 hours for less than 3 minutes of seat time. I have had to work at night because the event went too long. I had an event that was cancelled with no refund due to heavy rain, this was after I sat out for 2 hours. There were also quirky politics and rules too. It's not everyone's cup of tea. If you like it, more power to you.

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Chicago Region ALWAYS has 6 runs...always. Which region do you run? Only 3 runs, and I would be a bit put off also...

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I don't think 6 run is the norm for most SCCA clubs, simply too many people.

I had posted this before, but they need to start having paid corner workers or at least minimize the working time. Its pathetic to be standing in the hot sun for such a long time for little seat time. I might as well do an amusement park ride if that is the case.
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I have done them all and didnt enjoy most of them. I have had to work 2.5 hours for less than 3 minutes of seat time. I have had to work at night because the event went too long. I had an event that was cancelled with no refund due to heavy rain, this was after I sat out for 2 hours. There were also quirky politics and rules too. It's not everyone's cup of tea. If you like it, more power to you.
The quirky rules got a lot better this year when they changed the rules to where street tires will probably become the norm and most race tires will be on science-project cars. They still fret over small stuff in the rule book but the race tires in "stock" classes was the elephant in the room.

As far as work time goes, try a test and tune if you want seat time. At our events, it's not uncommon for people to get 10 runs or more on a test and tune day. A LOT of seat time is available at our novice school (10-15 runs before lunch) and the test and tune course on the other side uses 30-min work intervals for a pair of runs. Rinse, repeat.

Competition days have less seat time because of more people, but when attendance is light, we offer as many as six runs.
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There will be even more people, that means more time sitting out on course watching some noisy Honda Civic going 30mph. I would rather stay home and watch porn and sleep.

I used to run with a local club back east, had fun because it was relatively stress and politics free. You can just go and enjoy yourself for the day. I moved out west. Things got super serious and there are just tons and tons of people. If I am going to waste $100 and one day of my time at an autox, I might as well spend an extra $150 and run a track day instead. It's the reason why I want to get rid of my Hoosier A6s because I know I can never go back to it. It's just my opinion, I know some people really value the competition.

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The quirky rules got a lot better this year when they changed the rules to where street tires will probably become the norm and most race tires will be on science-project cars. They still fret over small stuff in the rule book but the race tires in "stock" classes was the elephant in the room.

As far as work time goes, try a test and tune if you want seat time. At our events, it's not uncommon for people to get 10 runs or more on a test and tune day. A LOT of seat time is available at our novice school (10-15 runs before lunch) and the test and tune course on the other side uses 30-min work intervals for a pair of runs. Rinse, repeat.

Competition days have less seat time because of more people, but when attendance is light, we offer as many as six runs.
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