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cossie1600 09-27-2013 01:51 AM

KW is $2K and PSS10 Bilsteins are $2.5K. I am going to sleep on it to make sure they are really worth it. Worst case scenario, I might just pop a set of sway bars in to see if it will get me through the winter.

IGoFast1589 09-27-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2506794)
KW is $2K and PSS10 Bilsteins are $2.5K. I am going to sleep on it to make sure they are really worth it. Worst case scenario, I might just pop a set of sway bars in to see if it will get me through the winter.

Can't really go wrong with thicker sway bars. If your dampers are toast though it will be a little like putting a band-aid on a broken arm. Ask around, see what others think, try and get a ride or drive a car that's running that suspension. KW is more proven on the 370Z platform than the Bilstein, but that doesn't mean it's better though. :tup:

vividracing 09-27-2013 01:25 PM

[QUOTE=dAvenue;2501570]"I don't know but I guess anything is possible if you squint your eyes and wish really hard."

^ made my day

Apollo8642 09-27-2013 03:00 PM

Have you checked your dampers yet see if any of them are leaking?
It's could also be a suspension bushing issue. You said it was leaning all over the place in the turns, was the car loose at all?
Also if your having diff issue that could be a cause of loosing time. I would also go over the whole car, and check out everything before trying to band-aid it with sway bars which could lead to another issue.

My two cent is, I really like the Tein coils. Flex and Mono Flex, and the EDFC is awesome to play with. Though some racing syndicates won't allow you to run it on course, and I hear good things about their new EDFC active. You can also get custom valving and have them rebuilt here in the states when the time comes.

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IGoFast1589 09-27-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Apollo8642 (Post 2507491)
Have you checked your dampers yet see if any of them are leaking?
It's could also be a suspension bushing issue. You said it was leaning all over the place in the turns, was the car loose at all?
Also if your having diff issue that could be a cause of loosing time. I would also go over the whole car, and check out everything before trying to band-aid it with sway bars which could lead to another issue.

My two cent is, I really like the Tein coils. Flex and Mono Flex, and the EDFC is awesome to play with. Though some racing syndicates won't allow you to run it on course, and I hear good things about their new EDFC active. You can also get custom valving and have them rebuilt here in the states when the time comes.

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Agreed! Check everything first man. EDFC does seem pretty cool.

If you really want to be serious about your coilover selection check out the shock dynos for the dampers. If you don't know how to read them I will read them for you if you post them up so you can get a sense of their behavior. Not sure if anyone has plotted any shocks for out of the box 370Z coilover suspensions, but they're nice to look at and can give you some key insight into how they will feel.

binary0x01 09-27-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dAvenue (Post 2501929)
The fronts are adjusted on top of the strut tower; easy access. The rears have to be removed; the dampening is set with a pin that rotates the slotted adjuster.

Koni North America - ITT

You don't have to remove the rears. You need to jack the car or just the rear left then right. Adjustment is done with a tool, or 7/64th allen key.

GSS138 09-27-2013 05:08 PM

KW V3's are a good product, sort of like a super enthusiast product. Not sure they end up being any better than a set of Konis and some swift springs. Personally if I had to choose I would go with good shocks and springs over the V3's. Longer wear and less up front.

Sounds like you are fairly serious at going to the track, if that's the case you really want to explore your options on a suspension purchase and do your homework. Going straight to a coilover 2 way adjustable damper is going to be an enormous change-and it's a substantial purchase. I am a bit in the same boat myself, after 2 months of reading everything I can- I still can't decide.

What part of cali are you in? There are a few guys here that can tell you much much more about it than I can, but it is no minor thing to go from OEM suspension to 2 way adjustable coils. That being said, the KW's are a well tuned "one size fits all" product that I am sure you would be happy with. Do some research first though.

clintfocus 09-27-2013 05:24 PM

cant compare the V3s to a koni and swfit spring combo. The KW dampers have alot of control being a double adjustable that actually works unlike alot of dampers out there. Thing is most people dont know how to or when to adjust the compression and rebound settings for optimum performance on track or comfort on the street.

cossie1600 09-27-2013 08:53 PM

My ideal situation would be getting a set of used pss10 and have it revolved. Unfortnately there aren't many used ones for cheap for me to rebuild.

cv129 09-27-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by clintfocus (Post 2507650)
cant compare the V3s to a koni and swfit spring combo. The KW dampers have alot of control being a double adjustable that actually works unlike alot of dampers out there. Thing is most people dont know how to or when to adjust the compression and rebound settings for optimum performance on track or comfort on the street.

:iagree:

Cossie, I wonder if any 370z in the US actually runs pss10. Are you thinking getting a used set from the 350 crowd then modify to fit? Can't see that to be a cheap option revalved + refit.

Good luck!

jooonnn 09-27-2013 11:45 PM

What sway bars are you looking to add?

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cossie1600 09-28-2013 03:10 AM

Cv129, they sell them new, so I assume that is different than the 350 ones? I just saw they are a little bit more than the kW, might be worth the extra cash. I also know u can rebuild the bilsteins, I haven't heard the same about kW

I am leaning toward hotchkis

Rusty 09-28-2013 04:09 AM

I asked on here awhile back about the PSS10's. Nobody here has them. Was told the S2000 crowd love them. The cheapest I found them for was about $2,500. Right now, I'm undecided on which coil-overs to get. :icon14:

Once I get my SPL arms and bushing done in the front. I'm thinking about getting the Hotchkiss bar in the front too.

cv129 09-28-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2508104)
Cv129, they sell them new, so I assume that is different than the 350 ones? I just saw they are a little bit more than the kW, might be worth the extra cash. I also know u can rebuild the bilsteins, I haven't heard the same about kW

I am leaning toward hotchkis

Yea they sell them new, I considered them once myself (bought something else on a good deal instead). I was referring to the idea of buying them used then revalved would be difficult, since almost no 370z runs them.

For KW, like takjak mentioned earlier, it may be worth to give Robi of Robispec a call, see if he valves V3. He ran a set on his own track 370z back in 09 or 10 (some ppl say its V3, some say it's clubsport version, I don't know), and he's very well known in the Evo community. Used V3 pop up here and there, used + revalve may still be cheaper than brand new V3.

cossie1600 09-28-2013 05:58 PM

I saw a set of v3 for 1200, was tempted except I want to find a place that can rebuild them first


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