Help with Classing? Solo

takjak2 · 07-08-2013, 10:04 PM

I heard from Learic Cramer that she is planning on abandoning the 370Z next due to the changes to Stock.

STR, and in particular the specific exclusion of the Nismo is a joke. They even amended the rules at the same time to clarify that larger than 255 stock tires were not allowed. First thing a Z owner has to do to run in a decent class is downgrade.

I think STU would be ideal for the 370Z but have had no luck in petitioning the boards.

Onelownismo, in the meantime, as a novice, you should put your cats back on and quietly run in C-Stock. I'll see you at VAC?

PharmDZ · 07-09-2013, 12:18 AM

Hmmm I'm still a little lost on the classing. After reading this thread it looks like I'd be in ASP? Could someone help me out and take a look at my mod list / give me a little direction?Thanks! Actually have my second event ever with the Z coming up this Sunday. Placed 3rd out of 19 in novice my first time around 2-3 weeks ago. So pumped to do it again!

Doc V's Project

synolimit · 07-09-2013, 12:32 AM

Anyone have a nice guideline rule list of parts and what nots?

gomer_110 · 07-09-2013, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PharmDZ

Hmmm I'm still a little lost on the classing. After reading this thread it looks like I'd be in ASP? Could someone help me out and take a look at my mod list / give me a little direction?Thanks! Actually have my second event ever with the Z coming up this Sunday. Placed 3rd out of 19 in novice my first time around 2-3 weeks ago. So pumped to do it again!

Doc V's Project

ASP. Get yourself a set of sticky R-Comps and have fun.

Just curious, what class you were running for that first event you did?

Onelownismo · 07-09-2013, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by takjak2

I heard from Learic Cramer that she is planning on abandoning the 370Z next due to the changes to Stock.

STR, and in particular the specific exclusion of the Nismo is a joke. They even amended the rules at the same time to clarify that larger than 255 stock tires were not allowed. First thing a Z owner has to do to run in a decent class is downgrade.

I think STU would be ideal for the 370Z but have had no luck in petitioning the boards.

Onelownismo, in the meantime, as a novice, you should put your cats back on and quietly run in C-Stock. I'll see you at VAC?

I really don't like the idea of downgrading my car. I think I'll take my chance with ASP and get some R-comps next time I get tires.

I'm on the waiting list for the VAC (if you're talking about the same thing that I think you are). If I don't get into it I may just go and spectate.

PharmDZ · 07-09-2013, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110

ASP. Get yourself a set of sticky R-Comps and have fun.

Just curious, what class you were running for that first event you did?

Ah crap lol I was running novice STR. Obviously it's not such a big deal unless you're really competing seriously? Will it make a difference if I do novice STR vs ASP this time around? Thanks again!

Onelownismo · 07-09-2013, 10:31 AM

Don't most clubs prefer you run novice a few times before switch anyways?

gomer_110 · 07-09-2013, 11:26 AM

Here in my region everyone runs in the normal class they're supposed to be in. After the event they just take the Novices and out of they're class and do results based on the PAX index.

03threefiftyz · 07-09-2013, 12:55 PM

Buying off the shelf stuff will only get you about 90% of the way there to a full prep SP car...

Order of importance:
1) Instruction
2) Seat Time
3) Better Instruction
4) Seat Time
5) Seat Time
6) A6's or R1S-if you have a codriver and live in the desert
7) Real Diff
8) Suspension
9) Power
10) Weight
11) Aero

gomer_110 · 07-09-2013, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz

Buying off the shelf stuff will only get you about 90% of the way there to a full prep SP car...

Order of importance:
1) Instruction
2) Seat Time
3) Better Instruction
4) Seat Time
5) Seat Time
6) A6's or R1S-if you have a codriver and live in the desert
7) Real Diff
8) Suspension
9) Power
10) Weight
11) Aero

You coming to the Toledo ProSolo this year?

03threefiftyz · 07-09-2013, 07:45 PM

Yes. Someone has to keep the DSP Bimmers honest...

Car hasn't run since April due to some breakage at the Dover Tour. That said, the front aero is now done, car will be on the dyno next week for an E85 tune, and I've made some other set-up changes as well. Going to have to relearn the car during the Sat morning session.

Apollo8642 · 07-11-2013, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onelownismo

Don't most clubs prefer you run novice a few times before switch anyways?

There is the Tuner Car Challenge (CHA) class. That's for drivers with less than 3 years Solo competition experience and cars that do not naturally fit into open classes, and the year end champion will not be eligible for this class in subsequent years.
We have a pretty good sized CHA class here in my my region and they like to push you into an actual class after a year of running that champion or not. I never run CHA, I started right off in DSP in my S14.

Also the word I've been hearing is that the stock class will no longer run race tires, and will be street tire class next year, hopefully I've heard this right.

gomer_110 · 07-11-2013, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apollo8642

There is the Tuner Car Challenge (CHA) class. That's for drivers with less than 3 years Solo competition experience and cars that do not naturally fit into open classes, and the year end champion will not be eligible for this class in subsequent years.
We have a pretty good sized CHA class here in my my region and they like to push you into an actual class after a year of running that champion or not. I never run CHA, I started right off in DSP in my S14.

Also the word I've been hearing is that the stock class will no longer run race tires, and will be street tire class next year, hopefully I've heard this right.

First off, the CHA class is not a normal class that is run everywhere. Some SCCA regions create their own classes to fit their specific needs. In my region, since we have a lot of national level competitors we tend to follow the national level rules pretty strictly.

Secondly the Stock classes being moved to street tires for next year is correct. It is possible that SS will continue to use R-Comps although that doesn't affect us and our Z's. Additionally allowed modifications for Stock classes will possibly change next year as well.

takjak2 · 07-11-2013, 02:52 PM

Off topic: anyone else see where they moved the FRS/BRZ? what a gift

AutoX Z · 07-11-2013, 05:19 PM

For next year (2014) there will be BOTH Stock as it exists now and the new Street (stock w/ street tires and lots of classing changes). In 2015 Stock goes completely away and we are left with Street.

The FRS/BRZ move is just a proposal. If you disagree with the move you should let the SAC/SEB know. SEB Letter Submission Form

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takjak2 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 1,922 Drives: Legit Racecar 370Z Rep Power: 142	I heard from Learic Cramer that she is planning on abandoning the 370Z next due to the changes to Stock. STR, and in particular the specific exclusion of the Nismo is a joke. They even amended the rules at the same time to clarify that larger than 255 stock tires were not allowed. First thing a Z owner has to do to run in a decent class is downgrade. I think STU would be ideal for the 370Z but have had no luck in petitioning the boards. Onelownismo, in the meantime, as a novice, you should put your cats back on and quietly run in C-Stock. I'll see you at VAC? __________________ Mods \| Stuff \| Things \| Seat Time \| Nismo facebook.com/TeamSparrowSpeed Last edited by takjak2; 07-08-2013 at 10:06 PM. Reason: c-stock,

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03threefiftyz Track Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: MD Posts: 536 Drives: 03 350z 6mt Rep Power: 16	Buying off the shelf stuff will only get you about 90% of the way there to a full prep SP car... Order of importance: 1) Instruction 2) Seat Time 3) Better Instruction 4) Seat Time 5) Seat Time 6) A6's or R1S-if you have a codriver and live in the desert 7) Real Diff 8) Suspension 9) Power 10) Weight 11) Aero gomer_110 likes this.

07-09-2013, 12:18 AM	#17 (permalink)
PharmDZ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 997 Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 13	Hmmm I'm still a little lost on the classing. After reading this thread it looks like I'd be in ASP? Could someone help me out and take a look at my mod list / give me a little direction?Thanks! Actually have my second event ever with the Z coming up this Sunday. Placed 3rd out of 19 in novice my first time around 2-3 weeks ago. So pumped to do it again! Doc V's Project

07-09-2013, 07:45 PM	#26 (permalink)
03threefiftyz Track Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: MD Posts: 536 Drives: 03 350z 6mt Rep Power: 16	Yes. Someone has to keep the DSP Bimmers honest... Car hasn't run since April due to some breakage at the Dover Tour. That said, the front aero is now done, car will be on the dyno next week for an E85 tune, and I've made some other set-up changes as well. Going to have to relearn the car during the Sat morning session. Last edited by 03threefiftyz; 07-09-2013 at 07:48 PM.

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takjak2 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 1,922 Drives: Legit Racecar 370Z Rep Power: 142	Off topic: anyone else see where they moved the FRS/BRZ? what a gift __________________ Mods \| Stuff \| Things \| Seat Time \| Nismo facebook.com/TeamSparrowSpeed

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AutoX Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 314 Drives: 370Z Base, Sport Rep Power: 15	For next year (2014) there will be BOTH Stock as it exists now and the new Street (stock w/ street tires and lots of classing changes). In 2015 Stock goes completely away and we are left with Street. The FRS/BRZ move is just a proposal. If you disagree with the move you should let the SAC/SEB know. SEB Letter Submission Form __________________ 2013 SCCA Solo National Champion VVV For Sale VVV

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