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You will probably go faster with slicks, but the car will probably feel better with the LSD even though your lap times won't show it.

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Old 07-01-2013, 05:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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You will probably go faster with slicks, but the car will probably feel better with the LSD even though your lap times won't show it.
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You will probably go faster with slicks, but the car will probably feel better with the LSD even though your lap times won't show it.
really depends on the scenario, from on track testing ive been involved with over here at Buttonwillow raceway park in socal, A properly setup Clutch type LSD on a 2WD car is anywhere from 1 to 2 seconds faster then a torsen gear type LSD on a 2 min average lap time track. Compared to a open diff the time improvement should be more. Of course slicks over stock tires would prolly be a 4-5 second improvement, but good diff AND good tires would be a huge jump.
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really depends on the scenario, from on track testing ive been involved with over here at Buttonwillow raceway park in socal, A properly setup Clutch type LSD on a 2WD car is anywhere from 1 to 2 seconds faster then a torsen gear type LSD on a 2 min average lap time track. Compared to a open diff the time improvement should be more. Of course slicks over stock tires would prolly be a 4-5 second improvement, but good diff AND good tires would be a huge jump.
That's what I meant. LSD is faster than the open diff, but the slicks help your times way more.
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Once I get more consistent I will step up to slicks but for now I need to get better on street tires. I am having a lot of fun in ASP right now.
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OS giken are really good and smooth, also the off the shelf settings are more then fine for most. Easy to install and just get out there and be happy. I have the Cusco RS 1.5, the off the shelf settings are too aggressive in my opinion, but when setup different it's quite nice. Also the cusco can be dissasembled and tuned in your garage, OS giken's need to be spent out to them to be retuned
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OSG FTW. Love the 100% lock and 50% lock under deceleration the most. Mine has never made one peep. Always use there fluid though.
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I need to find somewhere to get it installed. I have never installed a diff before. Having a base car will make things easy though! I will finish out this season and probably order the OS Gilken over the winter. How often do you have to change the clutches in it?
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As far as they're concerned you should never have to rebuild the clutch.

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I have heard horror stories about clutch style LSD's from the local club but no one runs OS Gilken parts. I need to deploy again so I can save up for more parts! Looks like this will be before my new suspension and I need to see of I change classes. I like ASP but if this puts me into modified then so be it!
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I have heard horror stories about clutch style LSD's from the local club but no one runs OS Gilken parts. I need to deploy again so I can save up for more parts! Looks like this will be before my new suspension and I need to see of I change classes. I like ASP but if this puts me into modified then so be it!
lsd's are ASP legal. I plan on doing this mod this coming winter.
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If my LSD fails the forums will be the second to know, I'll be crying to my mechanic first. lol
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Finding a good installer will be my biggest challenge. There is one near me that deals with the local exotics and GTR's that I know does great work. Otherwise it's a road trip to Dallas
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Finding a good installer will be my biggest challenge. There is one near me that deals with the local exotics and GTR's that I know does great work. Otherwise it's a road trip to Dallas
You definitely want someone that knows what they are doing to install it. I am no mechanic but am old enough (39) to have dealt with some transmission issues. The Giken lsd is f0ck1ing fast. But have it installed properly. Find the right people and pay them.
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Finding a good installer will be my biggest challenge. There is one near me that deals with the local exotics and GTR's that I know does great work. Otherwise it's a road trip to Dallas
Get it done near you as there is a significant chance you will have some whine and you will need to take it back in for adjustment.
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