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Old 11-06-2014, 12:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 11-06-2014, 12:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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In my experience, custom delrin offset bushings cost more to have made, than the available control arms. If you have a lathe and can DIY that's different - but most of us don't.

That said, I'm surprised ES or Whiteline or Prothane don't have poly bushing kits for our cars? All I see is the diff and subframe stuff. I don't see uprated (but non-metal) bushings for the front or rear lower control arms anywhere?
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Old 11-06-2014, 12:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I didn't think it would cost more than $150 to get them made but who knows. I can't find a shop in my area to do it. You are right though its shocking how no one is making anything like this for our car. I would really like to see something like this:
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Yep - costs for a volume-produced part are going to be a fraction of the one-off price, because the manufacturer gets to spread their design and tooling/setup costs out over a much larger number of parts. To have a fabricator make you one set of bushings, you're looking at $100-200 per unique bushing.
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I don't DD as much any more. Still put miles on it.

Don't forget. I'm running 275's in the front, and 345's in the rear. Mich PSS's.
Front camber at -2, caster at +6, zero toe.
Rear camber at -1.75. Going to change that to -1.5. Toe, a hair in.
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Joining up for the first time! Looking to get going on this in the spring.

My Z is currently my DD and I'm looking at doing wheels/tires/new fluids by the time the season picks back up.

For starters, would it be worth it to pick up a set of stock base 18s and throw sticky tires on them or use my sport wheels with new rubber and DD on the 18s?
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For starters, would it be worth it to pick up a set of stock base 18s and throw sticky tires on them or use my sport wheels with new rubber and DD on the 18s?
If you're going to run SCCA B Street class, the base model 18" wheels are not technically legal on a sport package car due to the different offset and width. That being said, I highly doubt anyone would protest you since they are a clear downgrade. The Sport package wheels are wider, so you'd definitely be better off using them with good rubber. I personally just drive around on my competition tires, that's the beauty of street classes.
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If you're going to run SCCA B Street class, the base model 18" wheels are not technically legal on a sport package car due to the different offset and width. That being said, I highly doubt anyone would protest you since they are a clear downgrade. The Sport package wheels are wider, so you'd definitely be better off using them with good rubber. I personally just drive around on my competition tires, that's the beauty of street classes.
With all the hate towards the 370Z this last year I don't know if I'd count on this. Locally you'd probably be fine but nationally there's just too many people that want to stir the pot for no reason.

Who know's maybe now that the car is in BS no one will care.
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How much camber are the guys who DD their autox cars running?

My z is my DD but I want to step the front camber up and dunno how much will be OK before I start eating up my tires. I'm thinking maybe -2.2 will be OK. Any thoughts?
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How much camber are the guys who DD their autox cars running?

My z is my DD but I want to step the front camber up and dunno how much will be OK before I start eating up my tires. I'm thinking maybe -2.2 will be OK. Any thoughts?
Assuming you're prepping for STR or higher? There's no front camber adjustment with the stock suspension (i.e. no front camber for a B Street car)

Tire wear resulting from autocross will vastly outweigh tire wear from DDing, so I wouldn't worry about that too much... Unless you have some crazy front toe or something...
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Assuming you're prepping for STR or higher? There's no front camber adjustment with the stock suspension (i.e. no front camber for a B Street car)

Tire wear resulting from autocross will vastly outweigh tire wear from DDing, so I wouldn't worry about that too much... Unless you have some crazy front toe or something...
Yup I will be doing ASP for this year since my rims are too big for STR. My club has ASP on street tires so works great for me. I have 0 toe up front and kenetix camber arms. I would love to run as much front camber as possible.
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I am running - 2.0 and my tires are fine on the inside. The toe out is what's killing my outer side of the tire. But, I love the way it handles and I don't daily it anymore.
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I am running - 2.0 and my tires are fine on the inside. The toe out is what's killing my outer side of the tire. But, I love the way it handles and I don't daily it anymore.
-2 or 2.2 is was I was thinking about. How much toe out you got?
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Don't know about autocross. I track and DD 18 track days and 10,000 miles. Front -2 camber and zero toe. Tires look fine. The rear. -1.75 and a hair in for toe. No toe wear, but the insides took a beating. Going to -1.5 for rear camber.
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Don't know about autocross. I track and DD 18 track days and 10,000 miles. Front -2 camber and zero toe. Tires look fine. The rear. -1.75 and a hair in for toe. No toe wear, but the insides took a beating. Going to -1.5 for rear camber.
Thnx I feel much better about running -2.0 up front and not tearing up my tires. FWIW I have -1.6 now 1/8th toe in the rear and my wear is good.
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