The Official 370Z Autocross Thread

[PharmDZ]

Originally Posted by zpower86

I posted on FB to bring up the "370Z should be in STU" discussion again. If there's nothing in the works I'm probably going to sell. :/

Feel free to chime in to help move the 370 to STU.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204...5523274274255/


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I'll put my 2 cents in again, but I agree, I think it's hopeless. I really was hoping for that as well since my car is basically fully built for ST except for having to change my test pipes to high flow cats and pick up a set of 285 RE71R's

[zpower86]

The purpose of the post is to find out what's going on. I'd hate to sell the Z for it just to be moved to STU in a year or so.


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[zpower86]

Looks like there will be an SCCA Town Hall webinar for STREET TOURING on June 6th. Register here to discuss the 370Z moving from STR to STU.

https://register.gotowebinar.com/reg...02247773760259

[PharmDZ]

Originally Posted by zpower86

Looks like there will be an SCCA Town Hall webinar for STREET TOURING on June 6th. Register here to discuss the 370Z moving from STR to STU.

https://register.gotowebinar.com/reg...02247773760259

Anyone participate and bring up the classing for ST?

[Brendan]

I was talking to a friend who owns an sti and he brought up the idea of giving the higher power coupes their own class. So essentially move the the z34, z33, corvette and maybe cayman to a supplement class of their own. I think that would be a good solution as well.

[gomer_110]

Originally Posted by Brendan

I was talking to a friend who owns an sti and he brought up the idea of giving the higher power coupes their own class. So essentially move the the z34, z33, corvette and maybe cayman to a supplement class of their own. I think that would be a good solution as well.

IMHO, supplemental classes are just stupid. Either make a "real" class or don't. The use of supplemental (and/or regional only) classes just makes it all that much harder to go from regional to national level competition.

The real answer to all this is the argument:

Currently in STU with no boost adjustment allowed,
350Z performance = STI and EVO performance

Starting next year in STU with open boost,
350Z performance < STI and EVO performance

and to return some parity to the class add the 370Z so that
370Z performance = STI and EVO performance

[gomer_110]

I sat through it. While the 370z classing wasn't a discussion point, classing was mentioned briefly. It was mostly to do with making ST more "all inclusive" so that it can act as a step between street and street prepared. The STAC and SEB members in attendance basically punted and said something to the effect of "if the membership wants this then we could look into it".

TLDR; sitting through it was a huge waste of time.

[cjwsrt6]

Has anyone else accidentally wandered onto the Z forum on Facebook and just sat there wondering if it's easier to sell or burn their car?

[gomer_110]

New fasttrack has come out,
(July Fasttrack) and moving the 370z from STR to STU has finally made it to the stage of going out for member input. Now is the time to flood the STAC with letters on why this is a good idea. Best bet is probably still to go with the argument that the boost buggies are getting faster with the open boost allowance and the 370z could be used to restore parity to the class.

Edit:

Here's the letter I wrote in support of the move. Feel free to steal any of it for your own letters.

1) The 370z is in line with the overall philosophy of the class.

2) The reason 370z's are not currently showing up in the ST category is that the car is currently severely hobbled with the narrower than even stock wheel and tire restrictions. The car needs STU wheel and tire widths to be any fun.

3) Numerous 370z owners left when the car was moved from CS to BS in the street category. Many of these owners could be lured back if the 370z was moved to STU.

4) With the upcoming change to "open" ECU's it can be anticipated that the boost buggies will get faster and ruin the current parity in the class. By moving the 370z into STU this parity can be restored.

5) With regards to "screwing" those that have recently built an STU 350z, precedant has previously been set that adding a newer generation of a car model to the same class as its previous generation is ok. A recent example of this is placing the ND Miata in STR which immediately obsoleted the NC Miata.

6) As I've seen false information regarding the possible power the 370z makes with ST legal mods I would refer the STAC to the numerous data points that are available online showing that the whp with legal ST mods is approximately 330-335 whp.

7) and finally, Bryan Heitkotter doesn't see the 370z upsetting the competitive balance of the class and believes the 370z should be moved into STU.

[Brendan]

Originally Posted by gomer_110

New fasttrack has come out,
(July Fasttrack) and moving the 370z from STR to STU has finally made it to the stage of going out for member input. Now is the time to flood the STAC with letters on why this is a good idea. Best bet is probably still to go with the argument that the boost buggies are getting faster with the open boost allowance and the 370z could be used to restore parity to the class.

Edit:

Here's the letter I wrote in support of the move. Feel free to steal any of it for your own letters.

W.here do we send our letters?

here you go guys. spam away

https://www.crbscca.com/

[gomer_110]

Originally Posted by Brendan

W.here do we send our letters?

Where to submit your letters

[Brendan]

Originally Posted by gomer_110

Where to submit your letters

thank you.

[gomer_110]

Fun from this last weekend:

[gomer_110]

This last weekend's Toledo Champ Tour:

Fastest Saturday Run:



Fastest Sunday Run:



And the run with the most interesting finish I've ever had:

[P's_Z]

Originally Posted by gomer_110

This last weekend's Toledo Champ Tour:

Fastest Saturday Run:



Fastest Sunday Run:



And the run with the most interesting finish I've ever had:

Nice runs, man