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carlitos_370z 01-28-2014 08:49 AM

Im not an expert my friend but i think you have to put the SS lines if you can to track your car. Today i buy mines from Z1 with the Motul Brake fluid!!! because i want to put my car ready for a track day in March.

wstar 01-28-2014 09:42 AM

The SS lines are mostly for pedal feel/response. Less mush in the system than having the rubber expand against the pressure. They're not strictly necessary right off the bat.

Masterbeatty 01-28-2014 11:12 AM

When I cooked my fluid for the first time I changed the fluid and got some confidence back. But the SS lines I got full confidence back.

GSS138 01-28-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 2669394)
I have to say thank you all for putting all this information in one place. I have read through almost all of this thread and I have come up with the following items I still think I need.
Carbotech Brake Pads Sport Front - Pads XP10
$199.00
Carbotech Brake Pads Sport Rear - Pads XP10
$166.00
Motul RBF 600 Performance Brake Fluid 2 Qts
$34.50

I am going to try to make it out to NJ Motorsports Park a few times this year. It will be my first time a track, and I want to have a good safe track car.

My car is a 2011 Nismo with the Nismo pads but I don't want to test them on the track. I have already installed a 24 row oil cooler and soon will have installed the CJM Fuel starvation kit. The only other performance changes are Stillen G3 intake and Berk Test pipes. The rest of the car is OEM.

My one question is since I will be already draining all the brake fluid should I change out the brake lines to SS or is there really no benefit since the car isn't old and doesn't have many miles on it?

Just go Motul 660 not the 600, or even Endless fluid. You will cook the 600 easily with those pads. Mushy horrible brakes is something you will experience inevitably, but the less the better.

The SS brakelines are a quick cheap safety upgrade, first thing a lot of guys do. I would highly recommend it. If a $25.00 brake line is the difference between a rubber line exploding and a SS line not exploding, then it's a definite buy at $25.00.

2011 Nismo#91 01-28-2014 12:08 PM

Thanks guys!

Sh0velMan 01-28-2014 12:18 PM

FWIW, you need to be sure flush and bleed the system more often with 660. It is even more hydroscopic than 600 is. Once the water content gets above a very very low percentage, its boil point comes way way down.

wstar 01-28-2014 12:30 PM

Has anyone actually burst a brake line? I've never heard of it. I could see it if the lines were old and the rubber was dry and weak. But surely not a line in good shape on a well-maintained or relatively-new car?

Sh0velMan 01-28-2014 12:49 PM

I've never heard of anyone actually rupturing an OEM brakeline that wasn't a million years old. Could happen though I suppose.

cossie1600 01-28-2014 01:10 PM

Yup I flew off the track at pocono. I was less than 3 feet from the wall once I stopped, never been the same since

Chuck33079 01-28-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2669757)
Yup I flew off the track at pocono. I was less than 3 feet from the wall once I stopped, never been the same since

From a blown brake line? That's a serious Code Brown moment. :eek:

cossie1600 01-28-2014 01:16 PM

0507 350z Pocono North Big Spin No Brakes - YouTube

Chuck33079 01-28-2014 01:18 PM

Your lack of swearing is absolutely remarkable.

Masterbeatty 01-28-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2669770)

Holy **** dude! I would of **** my pants. Glad your ok and back at it.

carlitos_370z 01-29-2014 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2669770)

:eek: man thanks to god that you and your car dont crash!!!

synolimit 01-29-2014 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2669665)
Just go Motul 660 not the 600, or even Endless fluid. You will cook the 600 easily with those pads. Mushy horrible brakes is something you will experience inevitably, but the less the better.

The SS brakelines are a quick cheap safety upgrade, first thing a lot of guys do. I would highly recommend it. If a $25.00 brake line is the difference between a rubber line exploding and a SS line not exploding, then it's a definite buy at $25.00.

Is a dry 23 degrees really worth it? The wets actually 1 degree lower. To me, for price, the 600 seems better.


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