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I've tried many staggered tire combinations on this car. 245/275 stock 275/305 RE-11 275/315 NT-01 315/345 V710 - For the extreme guys On all the setups I've dialed the car

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Old 07-05-2012, 05:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've tried many staggered tire combinations on this car.

245/275 stock
275/305 RE-11
275/315 NT-01
315/345 V710 - For the extreme guys

On all the setups I've dialed the car in to feel pretty balanced, but front tire wear is twice that of the rear. I'm considering a square setup next to see how that goes for front tire wear.

As far as understeer goes on track it can often be driver induced, such as trying to combine too much turning and acceleration. With Auto-X it's inevitable, you just have to manage it.
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I've tried many staggered tire combinations on this car.

245/275 stock
275/305 RE-11
275/315 NT-01
315/345 V710 - For the extreme guys

On all the setups I've dialed the car in to feel pretty balanced, but front tire wear is twice that of the rear. I'm considering a square setup next to see how that goes for front tire wear.

As far as understeer goes on track it can often be driver induced, such as trying to combine too much turning and acceleration. With Auto-X it's inevitable, you just have to manage it.
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As far as understeer goes on track it can often be driver induced, such as trying to combine too much turning and acceleration.

This is my issue right now. I need to stop it..
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With Auto-X it's inevitable, you just have to manage it.
I'd have to say with my Nismo it's rare case that I experience understeer in AX. On track never.

Maybe it's because I come from mid engine cars but honestly I rarely understeer with Z in AX. But I'm a consummate late apexer and have no fear of using power oversteer to rotate the car if needed.

But then I'm putting down a 295 Hoosier up front. When I go to 275 front and 285 rear street the car is an oversteering monster! But its very controlable oversteer. I just drift entire ax when I drive streets! Lol!
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I'd have to say with my Nismo it's rare case that I experience understeer in AX. On track never.

Maybe it's because I come from mid engine cars but honestly I rarely understeer with Z in AX. But I'm a consummate late apexer and have no fear of using power oversteer to rotate the car if needed.

But then I'm putting down a 295 Hoosier up front. When I go to 275 front and 285 rear street the car is an oversteering monster! But its very controlable oversteer. I just drift entire ax when I drive streets! Lol!
At auto-x the car will only rotate under power if you have 2 things, enough front grip, and enough power to break traction at the rear. At higher speed auto-x is can be harder to break the rear-end free under acceleration especially when I run the 345's in the summer and they're nice and sticky
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