Fuel Starvation Control Product

travisjb · 02-24-2013, 06:32 PM

^ thx for the tip, I'm sure that will make more sense once I'm in there! lol

SPOHN · 02-24-2013, 06:35 PM

Definitely the hardest part. And then to get the O ring set in place and compressed. This is where I kept having a small gas leak.

wstar · 02-24-2013, 07:04 PM

Yeah I had a faint fuel smell still today during a test drive after I filled the tank (level sensor works, yay). Most likely either I screwed up one of the O-rings, or it's what Charles was talking about with putting Teflon on the 3 studs (which I didn't do). Either way those are easy things to mess with at this point, I'll probably go back in there and look at all that tomorrow.

takjak2 · 02-25-2013, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

And then to get the O ring set in place and compressed. This is where I kept having a small gas leak.

Picked up 2 new O-rings from Z1 before starting this.

SurfDog · 02-25-2013, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar

Re: the fuel pump ground, I just ran a short wire for that to a ring terminal, and then put that ring terminal on one of the 4 nuts on the very outer cover of the driver's side tank access plate (the one these wires are coming out of the grommet on). The grey paint all over everything in that area isn't very conductive, but the nut threaded on that post conducts fine:

Also, a trick worth sharing that really saved me some time/pain during the "Hard Part" in the instructions (hooking up the 3 hoses on the passenger side...): use little strips of duct tape to attach strings to the 3 hoses, and tie a nut to the other end of the strings to give them some weight so they don't get lost or sucked in easily. Then you can drop the hoses in the back/side of the tank, put in the canister, and then pull them back up into range via the strings. Then you can cut/remove the helper as you're installing each one:

Nice!

Mike · 02-25-2013, 09:40 AM

I didn't have any fuel leaks, but I got some aircraft fuel tank sealant and applied it over everything on both sides to be safe. I figured if the factory put some sealant over it, I should too.

Hopefully I never have to service the tank again though, I don't know how hard it will be to remove.

phunk · 02-25-2013, 11:11 AM

with some teflon paste on the threads for the 3 main studs, that should be all that is needed. any other leaks would be the stock o-rings which are, in theory, re-useable. but they tend to expand if you get them wet with gas, and it can make them trickier to reinstall.

Rusty · 02-25-2013, 12:13 PM

I used the string trick too. Also I put RTV around the 3 studs on the fuel pump to seal it.

wstar · 02-26-2013, 07:55 AM

So yeah my fuel smell was exactly what was expected: lack of sealant on those three studs, and there was a light sheen of fuel on the cover of that unit. The O-rings were still sitting right in their channels perfectly so I didn't touch them. Took me all of 10 minutes to fix it, doing one stud at a time and leaving the can assembled and attached (and another 10-15 minutes to lift each assembled can a little to check O-rings).

DR_ · 02-26-2013, 08:47 AM

^ would you help me install mine for some $$? I was going to be down there anyway to have my dad help me install it (he lives north of Houston) but I figure you would be able to knock it out faster and without any mistakes.

phunk · 02-26-2013, 02:23 PM

There are 2 left now. Based on a PM just sent to me, I believe we will be down to the last 1 within the next few hours.

Yes there will be another batch for sure. It will very likely be a couple months before we build it, as I am struggling to get these new GTR parts all wrapped up at the moment.

Thank you everybody. As with all products I have ever built and sold, I will stand behind these items and support them for as long as I am capable of coherent technical conversation. So for anyone who sells their's later, needs a replacement part, or needs technical help for re-configuring it for multiple pumps, etc... I will always take care of it. For as long as I have been in this business, I have always had a reputation for taking a long time to finish new products and always running out of stock... but I make it my first priority to take care of those who take care of me. I am currently shopping CNCs to hopefully resolve my inventory/production delays. I am also exploring some ways to possibly bring down the cost of this product.. but that isnt getting full time attention at the moment.

BTW if anyone jumps on the last one... I would prefer to be PM'd here first to make sure someone didnt already jump on it, before making a transaction on the website. Also note that it will be about 2 weeks before the last one can ship. One of the pieces has a big flaw in the anodizing and it has to be re-anodized (which looks 100% as good as first time anodizing, it get stripped before re-anodizing).

SPOHN · 02-26-2013, 03:24 PM

^ you the man.

Mr&Mrs · 02-26-2013, 03:28 PM

Glad you will be making more! With the new home build im trying to not touch any accounts they are watching, stupid lenders, wish I could pay cash for a house lol.

phunk · 02-26-2013, 03:54 PM

annnnnd it looks like the last one may be gone.

i will post up if anything changes. there is one with dibs from PM contact the last few days.. if he changes his mind on that one, i will post up.

otherwise, as far as i can tell so far, we are out of them!

thanks everyone

wstar · 02-27-2013, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DR_

^ would you help me install mine for some $$? I was going to be down there anyway to have my dad help me install it (he lives north of Houston) but I figure you would be able to knock it out faster and without any mistakes.

Yeah we could probably knock it out in one long day at my garage sometime if you want. I moved to the north side, I'm up along 249 near Pinehurst now. The tricky thing would be scheduling probably. If you're gonna be at TWS this weekend we can talk about it there.

02-24-2013, 06:32 PM	#451 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	^ thx for the tip, I'm sure that will make more sense once I'm in there! lol __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

02-24-2013, 06:35 PM	#452 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	Definitely the hardest part. And then to get the O ring set in place and compressed. This is where I kept having a small gas leak. __________________

02-24-2013, 07:04 PM	#453 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Yeah I had a faint fuel smell still today during a test drive after I filled the tank (level sensor works, yay). Most likely either I screwed up one of the O-rings, or it's what Charles was talking about with putting Teflon on the 3 studs (which I didn't do). Either way those are easy things to mess with at this point, I'll probably go back in there and look at all that tomorrow. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

02-25-2013, 09:40 AM	#456 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	I didn't have any fuel leaks, but I got some aircraft fuel tank sealant and applied it over everything on both sides to be safe. I figured if the factory put some sealant over it, I should too. Hopefully I never have to service the tank again though, I don't know how hard it will be to remove. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

02-25-2013, 11:11 AM	#457 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,657 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 947878	with some teflon paste on the threads for the 3 main studs, that should be all that is needed. any other leaks would be the stock o-rings which are, in theory, re-useable. but they tend to expand if you get them wet with gas, and it can make them trickier to reinstall. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

02-25-2013, 12:13 PM	#458 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 34,908 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684436	I used the string trick too. Also I put RTV around the 3 studs on the fuel pump to seal it. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

02-26-2013, 07:55 AM	#459 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	So yeah my fuel smell was exactly what was expected: lack of sealant on those three studs, and there was a light sheen of fuel on the cover of that unit. The O-rings were still sitting right in their channels perfectly so I didn't touch them. Took me all of 10 minutes to fix it, doing one stud at a time and leaving the can assembled and attached (and another 10-15 minutes to lift each assembled can a little to check O-rings). phunk likes this. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

02-26-2013, 08:47 AM	#460 (permalink)
DR_ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 981 Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG Rep Power: 16	^ would you help me install mine for some $$? I was going to be down there anyway to have my dad help me install it (he lives north of Houston) but I figure you would be able to knock it out faster and without any mistakes.

02-26-2013, 02:23 PM	#461 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,657 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 947878	There are 2 left now. Based on a PM just sent to me, I believe we will be down to the last 1 within the next few hours. Yes there will be another batch for sure. It will very likely be a couple months before we build it, as I am struggling to get these new GTR parts all wrapped up at the moment. Thank you everybody. As with all products I have ever built and sold, I will stand behind these items and support them for as long as I am capable of coherent technical conversation. So for anyone who sells their's later, needs a replacement part, or needs technical help for re-configuring it for multiple pumps, etc... I will always take care of it. For as long as I have been in this business, I have always had a reputation for taking a long time to finish new products and always running out of stock... but I make it my first priority to take care of those who take care of me. I am currently shopping CNCs to hopefully resolve my inventory/production delays. I am also exploring some ways to possibly bring down the cost of this product.. but that isnt getting full time attention at the moment. BTW if anyone jumps on the last one... I would prefer to be PM'd here first to make sure someone didnt already jump on it, before making a transaction on the website. Also note that it will be about 2 weeks before the last one can ship. One of the pieces has a big flaw in the anodizing and it has to be re-anodized (which looks 100% as good as first time anodizing, it get stripped before re-anodizing). M.Bonanni, sig11 and Mr&Mrs like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph Last edited by phunk; 02-26-2013 at 02:26 PM.

02-26-2013, 03:24 PM	#462 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	^ you the man. phunk likes this. __________________

02-26-2013, 03:28 PM	#463 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,195 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 25229	Glad you will be making more! With the new home build im trying to not touch any accounts they are watching, stupid lenders, wish I could pay cash for a house lol. __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

02-26-2013, 03:54 PM	#464 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,657 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 947878	annnnnd it looks like the last one may be gone. i will post up if anything changes. there is one with dibs from PM contact the last few days.. if he changes his mind on that one, i will post up. otherwise, as far as i can tell so far, we are out of them! thanks everyone Reaper42 and Rusty like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

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