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takjak2 03-30-2012 02:46 PM

Nismo RC (race car) #001 on track with Doran racing
 
Qualified 11th in a pack of 35 first time out on a track. I have a bunch of detail pics to post from my hotel tonight. The race will be broadcast tape-delayed but you can follow live scoring and timing on grand-am.com

shadoquad 03-30-2012 03:09 PM

Cool, can't wait for pix!

TerribleONE 03-30-2012 03:10 PM

:werd:

ZCarMan 03-30-2012 05:05 PM

Very cool!

takjak2 03-30-2012 09:00 PM

Juicy details. If you guys have any questions about the car post 'em up and I'll investigate in the morning.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload001.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload002.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload003.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload004.jpg

Stock location
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload005.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload006.jpg

Motor mount
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload007.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload008.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload009.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload010.jpg

Front upper arms are custom. The rest of the suspension is OE for the RC.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload011.jpg

Rear camber is stock. They were happy with it after the lowering.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload012.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload013.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload014.jpg

Single exhaust. You can see fins on the diff and lines for the diff cooler.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload015.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload016.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload017.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload018.jpg

This custom spacer at the firewall backs right up to the roll-cage inside.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload019.jpg

Wide intake scoop visible here.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload020.jpg

This goes out to all my fellow Nismos with front license plate delete!
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload021.jpg

Those 245s! Spec tire for the GS class keepin' us back.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../upload022.jpg

Published race weight is 2900 lbs. I may have heard power is not more than 340 hp to the wheels. Don't quote me on that one. They know there is still room for improvement, weight in places particularly.


Race tomorrow!

03threefiftyz 03-30-2012 09:19 PM

AST 5220's? I know AST is now a major sponsor of the series, but I figured most would be on a penske 3 way or 4 way JRZ/Moton. Not that it makes a huge difference IMO.

Dwnshift 03-30-2012 11:06 PM

The guys have done an awesome job with the car. There will be more updates to the suspension after we get this first race out of the way. Tmrw is a long day and we would love to finish top 10 with all the fenders pointed in the right direction.
Then we would really have something to build.
Stay tunned
Dwnshift

Ron 03-31-2012 10:17 AM

ABS ECU.. ice mode solution right there?

Mandingo 03-31-2012 11:54 AM

Thanks for those great pics. So cool.

Will you be taking any in-car video?

thekinn 03-31-2012 12:27 PM

Wow. Sweet pics! thanks!

takjak2 03-31-2012 04:13 PM

Turn 1, Lap 1, Out.

takjak2 03-31-2012 04:33 PM

And even more carnage on the restart. Yellows breeding yellows.

clintfocus 03-31-2012 06:00 PM

omg i want upper control arms!!! :D

thekinn 03-31-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by takjak2 (Post 1632542)
Turn 1, Lap 1, Out.

Well, that sucks.. I had company and couldn't watch the online ticker. Guess we'll see next week on Speed.

sig11 04-02-2012 08:52 AM

Boo. :(

Good luck at the next race though!

Dustin@Z1 04-02-2012 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by takjak2 (Post 1631355)

Shamless plug for the Z1 Motorsports Urethane Motor Mounts....:tup:

Thanks for the pictures sir! I know many of us from Z1 went to the race this weekend over at Barber Motorsports Park, but I couldn't make it unfortunately. Really bummed because of that.

I hate that this car was TKO'ed. Such an awesome looking car.

Shamu 04-03-2012 09:57 PM

Same brakes as grand am cars. What abs system do they use?

Any chance we can get those front control arms? Those are sweet!

takjak2 04-04-2012 09:02 AM

Bosch Motorsports ABS

I have almost 1400 photos from the weekend I've been working through including pics from the crash that I'll try to put up tonight.

dastaco 04-04-2012 01:54 PM

Word is Doran will be back for Mid-Ohio. For anyone that isn't already following Doran racing on facebook I recommend adding them.

Doran Racing | Facebook

DivZero 04-04-2012 08:25 PM

It'll be great to see more pics. Any chance you have one of the back of the brake rotor (where the duct connects)? Also, are you guys running the 350 or 370 heads?

Dwnshift 04-04-2012 10:34 PM

Hey guys sorry for the late update...but I have just been flat out bummed.
We fought some major running issues on the test day...which was the FIRST time the car had hit the track.
We managed about 5 laps total besides in and outs ...developing a pretty signifigant missfire.
The crew changed out plugs and coilpacks and combed through the data and mapping....never really seeing any redflags.
The next day (Thursday) was our first real go at it...and there was no mis....so Bryan and myself were finally able to get our first laps in anger and start on chassis setup.
For the most part the rest of the 76 car field behaved on through the practice session.
We fought some pretty evil handling and made some major setup changes to the platform...but still were not feeling great about what was underneath us going into qualifying.
After the last practice session...and a debrief with Kevin Doran...we took another stab at it and made a couple adjustments. The next thing we really looked at was how many laps we had on the tires...in addition to the runs on the chassis dyno the car had.....and the additional ABS braking test that we did back at the shop.
Bottom line....the tires were junk.
The next issue was qualifying in which the car received 4 brand new Conti tires....man what a flippin relief...and HUGE difference.
It goes back to one of the OLDEST SAYINGS IN RACING.......the are the only 4 things that touch the ground.
Anywho..... out of the box for quali I couldnt believe the difference and how hooked up we were....the bad issue was...traffic.
My 2 lap..I found myseld realling in one of the Turner M3's...but headed into the S on the back stretch...we had the APR Audi (whom just flew off track) jump right in front of us..and we had to slam on the binders hard.... that lap was junked.
Next lap go around the Turner M3 into one...but again..we ran into traffic headed into the corkskrew. I backed off and took another shot...this time...I gave myself 20 car lengths to a pack of Mustangs. I had a solid run through 1...2 and 3 the car was hooked up...headed into the hairpin I was able to go to the 2 marker for the brakes....but ended up right on the heels of the Mustang pack...JUNK.
With 4 minutes remaining...I backed way of and tried to find one last little gap...and ended up turning a 1:37.9 and the team was P11. For sure if I would have had better timing at the begining of the session we woulda started inside the top 10.
For our first outting out of the box with the new car...we were thrilled.
Now comes the quick depressing part.
The race started...and we were P10 going into 1....I got a little tap from behind by the 00 Camaro but no biggie....I had space in front...and space to my outside to the Roush Mustang...we all went down to the apex and picked up throttle.
The next thing I knew...we were in the sand trap outside of one and the car was smoking. THe crew radioed me to ask what happened...and my response in my head...I was helping you could tell me.
There are conflicting reports of how what and why...but the bottom line...a lot of cars got thrashed in the first corner...of the first lap...of a 2 1/2 race.
As the car tracked away from the apex.....behind me...a Mustang 3 rows back made a bold dash to the inside...in doing so...his inside tires went into the wet grass...the car didnt turn...and it didnt stop.....thats where Nismo RC chassis 001 A pillar came into play.
The Mustant hit square on the A pilar/ left front wheel area....of which I can say our upper control arms didnt break :)
That hit sent the car to the outside where it quickly closed that "gap" to the Roush car...hitting them square and me spinning in front of the 65 other cars.
Those 2 hits were plenty and our day was done.
So...we will be def missing round 3 of the series in Homestead and look to be finalizing the rest of our 2012 schedule in the next few weeks.
The good news is that we were able to get a great direction and progress has already been made towards our next level with this car.
As of Tuesday the chassis was already stripped and been taken to the frame rack.
I can say this......Ive been doing this for awhile...and this one was just flat out depressing.
I want to thank all the Nissan supporters and owners that we meet over the weekend...and the guys at Z1....when they saw we had their engine mounts they were completly stoked.
As always ....stay "tunned" for details
Cheers
Dwnshift

Dwnshift 04-04-2012 10:44 PM

PS...the race airs on Speed Channel this coming Sunday at 4PM est....get the tissues out..and you can turn the race off at 4:05 PM est
;)

ChrisSlicks 04-05-2012 07:37 AM

I was pretty excited about your qualifying result, thought that was a great starting position for the car's first excursion.

Starts are always a problem. Everyone is jacked on adrenaline and there is always someone bound to do something stupid. The racing instructors always say, "You can't win a race on lap 1, but you can certainly lose it" as a way of trying to encourage the drivers to keep level headed for the first lap - doesn't always work though.

Many years ago it happened to me, I was the idiot with a wheel on the grass. Once you're there you are just along for the ride.

m4a1mustang 04-05-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1641378)
I was pretty excited about your qualifying result, thought that was a great starting position for the car's first excursion.

Starts are always a problem. Everyone is jacked on adrenaline and there is always someone bound to do something stupid. The racing instructors always say, "You can't win a race on lap 1, but you can certainly lose it" as a way of trying to encourage the drivers to keep level headed for the first lap - doesn't always work though.

Many years ago it happened to me, I was the idiot with a wheel on the grass. Once you're there you are just along for the ride.

It's hard not to get aggressive on the first lap (or a restart) because the opportunity to pass a lot of cars is so great. If you pull it off you're a hero... if not... you've got a lot of drivers and team owners angry at you!

But yeah, it definitely sucks to wipe out a bunch of good cars early on. Such a waste.

redhoundracer 04-05-2012 04:58 PM

there is a difference between being agressive and being stupid watch the white and yellow and the blue and yellow mustangs in this video and tell me that it wasn't stupid driving
Barber Motor Sports Grand Am starts 2012 on Vimeo
or this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJpm5xLlvlo

Kingbaby 04-05-2012 05:17 PM

every one wants to win...lmao...crazy video

m4a1mustang 04-06-2012 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redhoundracer (Post 1642591)
there is a difference between being agressive and being stupid watch the white and yellow and the blue and yellow mustangs in this video and tell me that it wasn't stupid driving
Barber Motor Sports Grand Am starts 2012 on Vimeo
or this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJpm5xLlvlo

I hadn't seen the video up to this point, so I was just making a generalization. Yes, that looked like a bonehead move! But I would like to see the full replay on the Speed broadcast to really see what happened since its hard to get the full picture from that onboard.

IDK what the heck happened on that second incident there.

ChrisSlicks 04-06-2012 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1643588)
I hadn't seen the video up to this point, so I was just making a generalization. Yes, that looked like a bonehead move! But I would like to see the full replay on the Speed broadcast to really see what happened since its hard to get the full picture from that onboard.

IDK what the heck happened on that second incident there.

Seems like very other car on the track is a Mustang, there's the problem! :p

m4a1mustang 04-06-2012 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1643647)
Seems like very other car on the track is a Mustang, there's the problem! :p

:bowrofl:

They were really strong last year. Still looking good this year but Grand Am has been doing a pretty good job of keeping the competition close. Get too far ahead and they'll reel you back in. ;)

gomer_110 04-06-2012 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1643669)
:bowrofl:

They were really strong last year. Still looking good this year but Grand Am has been doing a pretty good job of keeping the competition close. Get too far ahead and they'll reel you back in. ;)

From some talk I heard at the Daytona race, you'll actually hurt yourself if you're too good. Normally the added weight or reduced RPM's to "equalize" the field will take you out of contention for at least a race or two.

m4a1mustang 04-06-2012 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 1643875)
From some talk I heard at the Daytona race, you'll actually hurt yourself if you're too good. Normally the added weight or reduced RPM's to "equalize" the field will take you out of contention for at least a race or two.

Definitely. I'm sure they'll trim the 911s back a bit. :icon17:

Dwnshift 04-12-2012 08:51 AM

I would think they will consider Barber a "wash" becuase of the terrible sportmanship and carnage. As we were leaving the race....and going to the car the announcers came on and said they were working lap 45....and 29 of them had been yellow flag laps...and it was an emabaresment.
How Grand am looks at it is qualifying times...then they take each makes fastest race lap...10 lap average...2o lap average...and 30 lap race average.
This is one part of the Z esp at Barber we thought would be in our favor for a green flag lap.
While we may not have top 10 single fast lap...our car because of the weight and setup...may not fall off as much during a full stint.
The showed last year when we ran the 128's....our car only fell off 1 second on the 20 lap average...and other cars fell off 1.5 - 2 seconds. We came away p2 in last years Barber ST race.
The Porsche 3.8 is making good power for sure...and good power to the wheels ...and has only 50 more lbs than us. I know for sure...the old non direct injection 3.8s were about 320 to the wheels stock....and the new engines are up a lot higher than that.
Im thinking they are making 360ish to the wheels at least.
I bet after Homestead there will be another rules package update....that is if everyone in GS drives better.
Dwnshift

m4a1mustang 04-12-2012 08:54 AM

They'll never let any one make get too far out ahead so at least we can always count on a great show assuming everyone behaves themselves. The races usually come down to the wire. Great fun to watch. :tup:

iridefast 04-13-2012 03:19 AM

Dwnshift, sorry for the misfortune. I had a great time the whole weekend, and was completely crushed when you got forced off the track. I thought it was the Aston Martin that hit you, after being hit by a Camaro, as I could see from my vantage point. I was sitting on the grass hill on turn 2. We look forward to keeping up with your season. Cheers

iridefast 04-13-2012 03:34 AM

Takjak2, it was good meeting you at the races. Hopefully you can send me some of the pics you took. Hopefully we can meet up again, maybe a Z Nationals

spearfish25 04-14-2012 10:01 AM

While I always want to get into the Grand Am racing, it's downright painful as a spectator to watch the majority of each race (and some finishes) run under caution. Either there are too many cars on track or the drivers need to stop treating these events like bumper cars. True racing fans hate crashes...it's not Nascar where all the good 'ol boys go to see a big pileup!

Dustin@Z1 04-14-2012 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1662532)
While I always want to get into the Grand Am racing, it's downright painful as a spectator to watch the majority of each race (and some finishes) run under caution. Either there are too many cars on track or the drivers need to stop treating these events like bumper cars. True racing fans hate crashes...it's not Nascar where all the good 'ol boys go to see a big pileup!

Agreed...however a good tail slide exiting a corner can be exciting to watch when two or three cars are pushing hard for a position.

m4a1mustang 04-16-2012 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1662532)
While I always want to get into the Grand Am racing, it's downright painful as a spectator to watch the majority of each race (and some finishes) run under caution. Either there are too many cars on track or the drivers need to stop treating these events like bumper cars. True racing fans hate crashes...it's not Nascar where all the good 'ol boys go to see a big pileup!

Hey now, the last 400 miles of the Texas race were run under green! NASCAR Cup series guys crash a lot less than the Grand Am folks!

For what its worth a "true" racing fan likes racing. Those F1 snob types are not "true" racing fans.

gomer_110 04-16-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1666035)
Hey now, the last 400 miles of the Texas race were run under green! NASCAR Cup series guys crash a lot less than the Grand Am folks!

For what its worth a "true" racing fan likes racing. Those F1 snob types are not "true" racing fans.

That isn't that surprising since all they do is make left turns.:roflpuke2:

m4a1mustang 04-16-2012 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 1667780)
That isn't that surprising since all they do is make left turns.:roflpuke2:

:p

Road race guys like to give NASCAR a bunch of crap but 99% of the road racers that come over to try fail miserably. Racing at the Cup level is one of the toughest disciplines in the business! I know most of it is in jest, but c'mon! :icon17:


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