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cdoxp800 04-16-2012 08:35 PM

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Humm, No one noticed this? 350z ECU in the Nismo RC 370z.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1334626503

m4a1mustang 04-16-2012 08:38 PM

The NISMO RC doesn't use VVEL so it makes sense.

Megan370z 04-17-2012 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1667846)
The NISMO RC doesn't use VVEL so it makes sense.

another reason why VVEL isnt that good.
my opinion is it generate too much heat !
so they propably went with the HR head....

im still waiting for more info about that before I do the same since I still have my backup HR when I had my 350z.

Dwnshift 04-17-2012 08:51 AM

Yes....in order to make it all work. you will need to run a 350Z engine harness,change the chassis harness configuration..andrun a 350Z HR ECU.
For a street car application probably not what you are looking for.
For a straight track/race car....go to an aftermarket ECU...get a custom wiring harness made....may be a little more $$$ but less headache and much more percise tunning capabilites.
If you decide to go this route there are some really good guys out there that can do get it to work for sure....
We tried it and it worked ....but after one race...we are converting to the Grand Am spec Bosch ECU.
Dwnshift

Shamu 04-21-2012 10:52 AM

I didn't realize the RCs were using old 350z heads. They all come this way? So does this mean Nissan motorsports sells this hybrid motor as a crate motor somewhere? Hmmmm.


You know Nissan is really missing opportunity not reaching us average enthusiasts with motorsports parts. They could grab huge market share from many people who are looking for company who supports motorsports. seems like Nissan is on right track but going very slow.

Shamu 04-21-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1662532)
While I always want to get into the Grand Am racing, it's downright painful as a spectator to watch the majority of each race (and some finishes) run under caution. Either there are too many cars on track or the drivers need to stop treating these events like bumper cars. True racing fans hate crashes...it's not Nascar where all the good 'ol boys go to see a big pileup!

Hmmm I have always been a true race fan and bumping in my opinion has always been part of road racing in production car classes. I'm tired of sissies who say contact is bad. Crashes are bad but contact happens when you are pushing hard in a big field. It's always been part of racing and has never been reserved just to stock cars. If contact wasn't part of the game why do grand am cars have big push structures built into front and rear? Or at least the smart teams build these into their cars. Lol!

Grand Am is actually pretty calm compared to most similar series in other parts of the world.

ChrisSlicks 04-21-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Megan370z (Post 1668453)
another reason why VVEL isnt that good.
my opinion is it generate too much heat !
so they propably went with the HR head....

im still waiting for more info about that before I do the same since I still have my backup HR when I had my 350z.

Heat isn't the biggest factor, the problem is when you want valve specs outside the range of what VVEL is capable of. In a race-car VVEL is useless as it purpose is to broaden the torque curve at the low RPM's, where as race-engines are only run at high RPM's. The answer is a straight cam designed for 5-8k rpm, but you need the HR heads for this. For a street car that see's some track VVEL still performs great and helps forgive sins if you aren't in the perfect gear every corner.

I do agree about the Nissan Motorsports Parts list though. You can find many of the parts online but they aren't always properly categorized so you don't even know what car they are for! A proper catalog of their (non-warrantied) parts like Mazda does would be great. It would also be great if they had a broader racer's program allowing you to buy the parts at a discount, Mazda did this right and is a very popular track car as a result.

Sorry for going off-topic ... back to your regularly scheduled program!

The Doran Nismo RC car looks great!

m4a1mustang 04-21-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1677321)
Hmmm I have always been a true race fan and bumping in my opinion has always been part of road racing in production car classes. I'm tired of sissies who say contact is bad. Crashes are bad but contact happens when you are pushing hard in a big field. It's always been part of racing and has never been reserved just to stock cars. If contact wasn't part of the game why do grand am cars have big push structures built into front and rear? Or at least the smart teams build these into their cars. Lol!

Grand Am is actually pretty calm compared to most similar series in other parts of the world.

:iagree: Nothing wrong with clean contact. Just don't flat out wreck a guy on purpose. And if you do decide to "help" a slower car out of the groove, you better make sure you really are faster or else you should expect the same treatment later on. ;)

laze1 04-21-2012 11:14 AM

Well, it appears Nissan is now starting to do just that...(support grass roots racers) with Spec Z...they are paying out some real money to race 350zs...

NASA News - National Auto Sport Association - nasaproracing.com

And I am now running in this class...:happydance:

Dwnshift 04-21-2012 12:56 PM

No the RC does not come this way...the RC is a bone stock 370Z engine.
It does have upgraded radiator, shrouding, oil cooler, power steering cooler, NISMO LSD, diff cooler etc....
Am Performance did a lot of development and what we ran at Barber...was what they finished with at Mid Ohio and was actually one of their race engines.
We are taking off from Homestead for a couple of reasons...one being the chassis just got back late this past week...but more importantly...upgrades and development in both engine performance and suspension...I can say one thing..our brake package is UNREAL.
Contact is one thing...driving like a Dbag is another. It takes far more skill to get around someone...than shove them out of the way. I can also say this...I have passed a lot of cars in my time by letting faster cars go around...esp in a 3 hour race.... Now...under an hour left...its time to dig in...but still I have always felt contact is a cheap and less skillfull way out....Anywho....
Dwnshift

DivZero 04-22-2012 12:39 PM

For instance the last BTCC (Donnington Round 2 Race 3) was amazing. There was a huge battle for third at the end. Jason Plato (5th Gear Host and "professional" racer) tried everything to get from 3rd to 2nd. The racer in front of him was spot on an blocked EVERYTHING. So what does d-bag plato do? He rams full speed into the guy ON THE LAST CORNER, knocking him off track, and claims 2nd for himself. That is not racing, but most of the other bumping in BTCC is!

sixpax 04-22-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by laze1 (Post 1677336)
Well, it appears Nissan is now starting to do just that...(support grass roots racers) with Spec Z...they are paying out some real money to race 350zs...

NASA News - National Auto Sport Association - nasaproracing.com

And I am now running in this class...:happydance:

I expected to see a few at Summit Point this coming weekend, but sadly zero are entered.

OppositeLock 04-22-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sixpax (Post 1679082)
I expected to see a few at Summit Point this coming weekend, but sadly zero are entered.

I'm sure Nissan doesn't expect a ton of entries this year... The NASA press release only went out a couple months ago. Granted there are probably some guys whose cars are there or nearly there for meeting the rules, but if anything a lot of guys are hopefully gearing up to run next season and we'll see some testers later this year.

laze1 04-22-2012 04:38 PM

We are hoping to have ~20 at the NASA National Championships this year...with maybe 5-10 cars on track today.

But yes, this is a building year...my 1st Spec Z event will be June @ Road Atlanta...I am converting from NASA-PTB....

Dwnshift 04-23-2012 10:03 AM

I know where a bitchin 350Z is for sale.
;)
Probably be bought for $35k
Full pectel MENARDS built engine
full 350EVO suspension
SUPER nice car.
Would be perfect for NASA racing.

ChrisSlicks 04-23-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwnshift (Post 1680124)
I know where a bitchin 350Z is for sale.
;)
Probably be bought for $35k
Full pectel MENARDS built engine
full 350EVO suspension
SUPER nice car.
Would be perfect for NASA racing.

Not eligible for Spec Z but would be a great race car in general.

Dwnshift 04-23-2012 10:34 AM

Yes copy on the not eligible...
But for the money...it was a proven and reliable car.
Finished 2nd in the manfc championship and 3rd in drivers champ.

takjak2 04-24-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwnshift (Post 1641088)
of which I can say our upper control arms didnt break :)

Cheers
Dwnshift

Still want. PM me :tiphat:

Dwnshift 04-25-2012 05:32 PM

Takjak
Our front upper control arms just went out to get anodized.
When they return.. I will get some pictures.
Im pretty sure they will be available through Nissan Motorsports Parts dept...but not sure on pricing yet.
Thats a TBD.
Dwnshift

ChrisSlicks 04-25-2012 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwnshift (Post 1685540)
Takjak
Our front upper control arms just went out to get anodized.
When they return.. I will get some pictures.
Im pretty sure they will be available through Nissan Motorsports Parts dept...but not sure on pricing yet.
Thats a TBD.
Dwnshift

Looking forward to these. Will be replacing the ball joints in my SPC's this weekend, these look to be a much higher quality.

Anyone want some slightly used SPC's with fresh ball joints? :)

laze1 04-26-2012 08:05 AM

This sounds like one of the old Car & Driver Grand Am cars...they are sweet!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwnshift (Post 1680124)
I know where a bitchin 350Z is for sale.
;)
Probably be bought for $35k
Full pectel MENARDS built engine
full 350EVO suspension
SUPER nice car.
Would be perfect for NASA racing.


Dwnshift 04-26-2012 08:58 AM

Negative...this was one of the first Zs built in North america ..run by Wright tunning ..Schuitemaker motorsports 350EVO. We raced it in Grand am cup ( which is now Conti challenge) in 2003-2005.
This car was the 2nd car we built and was raced primarily in 2004 mid season on..and 3 races in 2005.

Dwnshift 05-04-2012 04:50 PM

Just an FYI..... we snapped some shots of our new front upper control arms....rear camber arm for those that run a rear coilover...and rear toe arm...today.
pictures...availabilty....info to be posted soon.
Dwnshift

Reaper42 07-02-2012 06:36 PM

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Sh0velMan 01-16-2013 10:32 AM

I know this is a necro post, but I really need GOOD photos of the RC's cage configuration.

Particularly the door bars, forward loop/A Pillar treatment.

Anyone got any?

whis9 01-16-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2113875)
I know this is a necro post, but I really need GOOD photos of the RC's cage configuration.

Particularly the door bars, forward loop/A Pillar treatment.

Anyone got any?

+1, getting cage next month, pics would be helpful

Sh0velMan 01-16-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by whis9 (Post 2113885)
+1, getting cage next month, pics would be helpful

Meee tooooo!

sig11 01-16-2013 11:15 AM

I know you want pics of the RC but I still think Fixxercask has the nicest looking cage I've ever seen in a Z. It feels nice and open in the cabin still too. I'm aiming for something very similar in my 350Z.

MY350Z.COM Forums - View Single Post - Sound Deadening Removal/Weight Reduction/Cage Prep

Sh0velMan 01-16-2013 11:20 AM

I don't have an account there.

Can you repost them here?

whis9 01-16-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sig11 (Post 2113993)
I know you want pics of the RC but I still think Fixxercask has the nicest looking cage I've ever seen in a Z. It feels nice and open in the cabin still too. I'm aiming for something very similar in my 350Z.

MY350Z.COM Forums - View Single Post - Sound Deadening Removal/Weight Reduction/Cage Prep

Yep, great guy. Thats the guy I am taking my car to get the cage done

Fishey 01-16-2013 11:46 AM

The 350Z (Fixxercask) and RC (factory) cage are both so-so. The best cage design is still the Doran Racing style Door-Bars (Copied by many now in Grand-am) and also a Window Bar is a no-brainer in my opinion.

sig11 01-16-2013 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2114008)
I don't have an account there.

Can you repost them here?

This one should work:
greatlakeszclub.com - View topic - Fixxxercask's Race Car

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishey (Post 2114083)
The 350Z (Fixxercask) and RC (factory) cage are both so-so. The best cage design is still the Doran Racing style Door-Bars (Copied by many now in Grand-am) and also a Window Bar is a no-brainer in my opinion.

Would love to see some shots, Fishey!

Sh0velMan 01-16-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sig11 (Post 2114125)
This one should work:
greatlakeszclub.com - View topic - Fixxxercask's Race Car



Would love to see some shots, Fishey!


lol he just linked the photos from my350z there. Still can't see them :P

djtodd 01-16-2013 12:24 PM

Login. You can see them then

sig11 01-16-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2114160)
lol he just linked the photos from my350z there. Still can't see them :P

Ugh. Sorry. I just downloaded them. Index of /~sig11/350z/dom

Sh0velMan 01-16-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sig11 (Post 2114232)
Ugh. Sorry. I just downloaded them. Index of /~sig11/350z/dom

Thanks man!

Looks good, but those door bars are a little more than I really want.

I'm not cutting my doors, so a simple X style door bar is going to have to suffice.

Fishey 01-16-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sig11 (Post 2114125)
This one should work:
Would love to see some shots, Fishey!

I am not at liberty to show any pictures of the 370Z but seeing as similar photos to this one of the BMW 128I ran in 2011 have been posted on multiple sites before it gives you an idea on how the 370Z is built. That being said the 370Z cage is actually a bit better then the 128I cages but the door bar design is very similar as is the window bars.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...96282674_n.jpg

Triangulated Door bars will not fail nearly as easy as flat bars. The whole cage would have to move and I would imagine G force would kill the driver before the door bars failed.

sig11 01-16-2013 02:55 PM

See what you mean! It's a whole different design for that section. Haven't seen a cage like that at the track yet.

Dwnshift 01-16-2013 07:36 PM

For those that may or may not remember ...I had a 3300 lbs mustang cream me in our first race with the RC.
The impact zone was from just behind the A pillar to the left front wheel.
;)

redhoundracer 01-16-2013 09:35 PM

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here are a couple photos from the crash at Barber as you can see in the second one the cage did its job where as flat door bars would have caved inward towards the driver


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