Making a Nismo a Track Beast

NissanUSA · 12-11-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

it all depends on what you want from the car...but realistically, if you want a true track monster, going FI is not in your budget for the build. A reliable NA build can easily deplete your 20k budget.

Yeah true I may sell my z06 too help fund this project further. I think I'm gonna get the basic performance parts with the starting 20k, then do the interior, audio, and advanced performance stuff with another 30-40k from the z06. Then I will be satisfied with it. Oh and what's NA mean? Sorry all I found from google was Narcotics anonymous

Red__Zed · 12-11-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NissanUSA

Yeah true I may sell my z06 too help fund this project further. I think I'm gonna get the basic performance parts with the starting 20k, then do the interior, audio, and advanced performance stuff with another 30-40k from the z06. Then I will be satisfied with it. Oh and what's NA mean? Sorry all I found from google was Narcotics anonymous

NA=naturally aspirated.

takjak2 · 12-11-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NissanUSA

Yeah true I may sell my z06 too help fund this project further.

You're 16 right?

ImportConvert · 12-12-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NissanUSA

Yeah true I may sell my z06 too help fund this project further. I think I'm gonna get the basic performance parts with the starting 20k, then do the interior, audio, and advanced performance stuff with another 30-40k from the z06. Then I will be satisfied with it. Oh and what's NA mean? Sorry all I found from google was Narcotics anonymous

To beat a stock c6z in a 370z for track use is a helluva crazy task. I don't think you will have a very streetable 370 if you do so for under 20k.

KingZee · 12-11-2011, 09:34 PM

would love to see pics

_ace_ · 12-11-2011, 09:39 PM

/\/\

Don't do that.

Buy the oil cooler. Get a good set of track pads. Look into fuel starvation and get that figured out. Then buy great tires and save the rest for the time being. You'll be able to spend or invest it in the car. But figure out what you NEED before writing the checks. Once you learn the car, you'll know where the money will make you better enjoy the car.

Buying differentials, coilovers, sways, and so on is a way to adjust a car you aren't familiar with. How do you know those parts will make you enjoy the track any more?

Get seat time, then start to spend your money after you've done a dozen events and know what you want to adjust about the car.

takjak2 · 12-11-2011, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by _ace_

Don't do that.

Buy the oil cooler. Get a good set of track pads. Look into fuel starvation and get that figured out. Then buy great tires and save the rest for the time being. You'll be able to spend or invest it in the car. But figure out what you NEED before writing the checks. Once you learn the car, you'll know where the money will make you better enjoy the car.

Oil cooler, pads, tires, helmet, and maybe rig up a camera mount in the car. In stock form the Z is already wayyyy better than you (or I) are.

Seat time, seat time, seat time.

FL 4Motion · 12-11-2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NissanUSA

Ok everyone so I just got my Pearl White new 370z Nismo

But I have a problem, I have 20k and want to make it a track car. So whats the problem? Well I don't have very much knowledge with Z's or well cars in general.

I have learned a ton from these forums but still I don't know a lot. So what would be a good way to go to make a good track car with 20k? I know a lot of people on these forums go the F.I route. But that wouldn't work well with a track car would it? I would think it would overheat way too much. And also I'm not DD'ing the car. Only time I would use it is too track and on the weekends for cruises and such. Thanks everyone

/\ don't blow your wad on upgrades before you even put one wheel on track. Just do the basics, see m4a1's advice below for that, and start attending HPDE's and working on your skills. throwing money at your car before you even really know how to drive/your driving style and what you want to improve on the car based on experience etc is just dumb.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Pads + lines + fluid + oil cooler.

Buy a helmet. Sign up for some HPDEs.

Go slowly. Listen to your instructor. LEARN.

Once you get a good feel for the car and become more confident in your abilities you can start evaluating what you would like to do with the car to make it better.

ChrisSlicks · 12-12-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

For track use you are going to want a large enough air cooler. Probably a 24+ row Setrab.

For hard-core track use get the biggest damn cooler you can get, I would recommend the 34 row Z1 kit.

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

/\ don't blow your wad on upgrades before you even put one wheel on track. Just do the basics, see m4a1's advice below for that, and start attending HPDE's and working on your skills. throwing money at your car before you even really know how to drive/your driving style and what you want to improve on the car based on experience etc is just dumb.

I agree. Avoid mods to the car in the beginning, mod the driver instead. As others have said just do the basics such as brake lines, racing pads, and oil cooler.

Once you have improved the driver then you can consider car mods that might make it better on track. Do at least 2 events then you can consider sway bars and coilovers. If you complete a full season then reward yourself with safety gear, seats, harnesses and rear 4-point cage (no full cage in a street driver). Avoid FI as it is a huge undertaking for a track car, cooling becomes a really big issue.

sig11 · 12-12-2011, 09:35 AM

If I had $20k to spend I would take the best driving school I could find. Bondurant, Skip Barber, etc. With a budget like that you could probably do a boot camp of some sort and come out with multiple racing licenses not to mention that I bet it would make you faster in the stock car than with all those mods and no instruction!

A track monster is something like travis' car... you won't be driving it on the street. Drop weight like mad, put in a full 6pt cage and race seats then start working on

cossie1600 · 12-12-2011, 04:37 PM

you better have really good tires and have a better driver to make up the 200hp!

wgi has a lot of long sweeping corners, slicks help a lot. you go to thunderbolt or vir, you will notice the 200hp pretty quickly as they blow by you...

ChrisSlicks · 12-12-2011, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

you better have really good tires and have a better driver to make up the 200hp!

wgi has a lot of long sweeping corners, slicks help a lot. you go to thunderbolt or vir, you will notice the 200hp pretty quickly as they blow by you...

VIR is a power track for sure, don't think I could keep up there. Thunderbolt maybe.

Shamu · 12-12-2011, 10:17 PM

I'd drop the catback exhaust mods, shift knob, etc. Set of long tube headers, up rev tune, Get a set of good coil overs like Motons or JRZs. kW3 s are decent for a budget shock but arent close to good 3 way adjustables, nice 35 mm progress front bar, no need for differnt rear bar, oS Giken LSD, 34 row GTM oil cooler, set of real race seats like recaros, race tech or Sparco FIA certified, good set of harnesses, harness bar or rear roll bar, some lightweight 18 inch wheels with Hoosier r6s or Good Year RS dot race tires. Good set of brakes. AM performance oil pan, nice Momo race steering wheel, surge pump (to address fuel starve issue), Rear diff cooler. 4.08:1 final drive ring and pinion gear set. Lightweight flywheel, clutch, upgraded throwout bearing,, etc, top notch racing fluids. Use the rest of your money to stay on fresh tires and fluids.

Z isn't going to be a Z06 beater but it will be fun.

SPOHN · 12-16-2011, 04:22 PM

What diff cooler are you recommending/ running? I feel I'm not having issues there but I haven't put a temp gauge on it either. I'm getting ready to change out my fluid and was pondering with adding Nismo diff cooler cover. And if it's worthy on any level?

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Originally Posted by Shamu

I'd drop the catback exhaust mods, shift knob, etc. Set of long tube headers, up rev tune, Get a set of good coil overs like Motons or JRZs. kW3 s are decent for a budget shock but arent close to good 3 way adjustables, nice 35 mm progress front bar, no need for differnt rear bar, oS Giken LSD, 34 row GTM oil cooler, set of real race seats like recaros, race tech or Sparco FIA certified, good set of harnesses, harness bar or rear roll bar, some lightweight 18 inch wheels with Hoosier r6s or Good Year RS dot race tires. Good set of brakes. AM performance oil pan, nice Momo race steering wheel, surge pump (to address fuel starve issue), Rear diff cooler. 4.08:1 final drive ring and pinion gear set. Lightweight flywheel, clutch, upgraded throwout bearing,, etc, top notch racing fluids. Use the rest of your money to stay on fresh tires and fluids.

Z isn't going to be a Z06 beater but it will be fun.

corbin09 · 12-13-2011, 09:41 AM

Pics or Shenanigans

12-11-2011, 09:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
KingZee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Glendale, CA Age: 42 Posts: 2,612 Drives: Focus ST Rep Power: 425	would love to see pics __________________ Focus ST

12-12-2011, 10:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 21	I'd drop the catback exhaust mods, shift knob, etc. Set of long tube headers, up rev tune, Get a set of good coil overs like Motons or JRZs. kW3 s are decent for a budget shock but arent close to good 3 way adjustables, nice 35 mm progress front bar, no need for differnt rear bar, oS Giken LSD, 34 row GTM oil cooler, set of real race seats like recaros, race tech or Sparco FIA certified, good set of harnesses, harness bar or rear roll bar, some lightweight 18 inch wheels with Hoosier r6s or Good Year RS dot race tires. Good set of brakes. AM performance oil pan, nice Momo race steering wheel, surge pump (to address fuel starve issue), Rear diff cooler. 4.08:1 final drive ring and pinion gear set. Lightweight flywheel, clutch, upgraded throwout bearing,, etc, top notch racing fluids. Use the rest of your money to stay on fresh tires and fluids. Z isn't going to be a Z06 beater but it will be fun. Last edited by Shamu; 12-12-2011 at 11:52 PM.

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12-11-2011, 09:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
_ace_ Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Posts: 140 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 16	/\/\ Don't do that. Buy the oil cooler. Get a good set of track pads. Look into fuel starvation and get that figured out. Then buy great tires and save the rest for the time being. You'll be able to spend or invest it in the car. But figure out what you NEED before writing the checks. Once you learn the car, you'll know where the money will make you better enjoy the car. Buying differentials, coilovers, sways, and so on is a way to adjust a car you aren't familiar with. How do you know those parts will make you enjoy the track any more? Get seat time, then start to spend your money after you've done a dozen events and know what you want to adjust about the car.

12-12-2011, 09:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
sig11 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,294 Drives: 09 370Z Red Sport-MT Rep Power: 20	If I had $20k to spend I would take the best driving school I could find. Bondurant, Skip Barber, etc. With a budget like that you could probably do a boot camp of some sort and come out with multiple racing licenses not to mention that I bet it would make you faster in the stock car than with all those mods and no instruction! A track monster is something like travis' car... you won't be driving it on the street. Drop weight like mad, put in a full 6pt cage and race seats then start working on

12-12-2011, 04:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	you better have really good tires and have a better driver to make up the 200hp! wgi has a lot of long sweeping corners, slicks help a lot. you go to thunderbolt or vir, you will notice the 200hp pretty quickly as they blow by you...

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