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SPOHN 09-19-2011 03:29 PM

New GA Track Coming, AMP
 
In case you don't know we here in GA are getting a new track sometime soon. Not sure exactly when for it's behind schedule but will be well worth it soon enough. It's called AMP (Atlanta Motorsports Park). Even with the little knowledge I have it seems like it's going to be a nice layout that offers much. I have been reading up on the track for about a year or so and could state a lot more but I'll let you check it out for yourself. The link I provided is for the track layout but feel free to read more about this place and what it has to offer which is a lot. I'd like to hear you guys opinons on this.

Track Information and Overview for AMP - Atlanta Motorsports Park

Red__Zed 09-19-2011 03:40 PM

Cool. Will have to check it out

ChrisSlicks 09-19-2011 04:57 PM

Fuel starvation at T6 and T12. :)

Mike 09-19-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1320566)
Fuel starvation at T6 and T12. :)

maybe they designed our cars for Nascar?

daisuke149 09-19-2011 06:57 PM

yeah they are way behind schedule. was supposed to be finished before september. Z nationals track day was first going to be here till they fell far behind schedule.

it shoul dbe an awesome awesome track when finished.

And no Fuel starvation. ima drive it like i had my grandma in the car.

Sharif@Forged 09-19-2011 07:40 PM

Should be open around New Year's. This is great for motorsports enthusiasts all over the region. The track is only 45mins from Forged. Without letting the cat out of the bag... :)

SPOHN 09-19-2011 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1320566)
Fuel starvation at T6 and T12. :)

First thing I thought also.

cossie1600 09-19-2011 08:38 PM

It's so nice to be able to build tracks easily down south. I think they have been talking about new tracks in New ENgland and New York for 10 years, none of them have materialize yet

Mike 09-20-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 1320699)
Should be open around New Year's. This is great for motorsports enthusiasts all over the region. The track is only 45mins from Forged. Without letting the cat out of the bag... :)

I think I know what you are hinting at!!!!


I recently registered for my 3rd event there, this one is in March with Flatout. Hopefully it actually happens, unlike the last two.

red6spd 09-20-2011 08:17 AM

Wish we could get at least ONE track here.

ChrisSlicks 09-20-2011 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1321275)
Wish we could get at least ONE track here.

You had one. They closed it and turned it into a golf course.

red6spd 09-20-2011 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1321287)
You had one. They closed it and turned it into a golf course.



LOL I know, me and a few friends went for a drive to it a couple of days ago.
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and cried

m4a1mustang 09-20-2011 08:25 AM

That looks like a really nice layout.

Sharif@Forged 09-20-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1321292)
That looks like a really nice layout.

Indeed. In fact, the track was designed by the same team that designed most of the modern FI tracks. Check this out from AMP's press release:

"Tilke Engineers & Architects are the famed Formula One Track designers and are responsible for nearly every modern-era Formula One track designed in the last ten years, including the circuits at Bahrain, Sepang, and Malaysia. CEO of Atlanta Motorsports Park."

On the days the track is not used by the members, it will be available to the public for rentals. I would expect to see a Grand Am Event, and plenty of SSCA/NASA action here throughout the year.

m4a1mustang 09-20-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 1321421)
Indeed. In fact, the track was designed by the same team that designed most of the modern FI tracks. Check this out from AMP's press release:

"Tilke Engineers & Architects are the famed Formula One Track designers and are responsible for nearly every modern-era Formula One track designed in the last ten years, including the circuits at Bahrain, Sepang, and Malaysia. CEO of Atlanta Motorsports Park."

On the days the track is not used by the members, it will be available to the public for rentals. I would expect to see a Grand Am Event, and plenty of SSCA/NASA action here throughout the year.

That actually surprises me because Herman Tilke is a pretty crappy designer in general terms. Most of his F1 tracks have too many useless chicanes. This one looks great, though.

cossie1600 09-20-2011 11:56 AM

I agree with you, not a fan of Herman Tilke's track. It's all tracks with long straights and a couple tight turns.

How far is ROad Atlanta from Atlanta? How do you guys support so many tracks?!?

Also is it me or are all the new tracks heading for the stupid country club/rich SOB format now?

ChrisSlicks 09-20-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1321795)
Also is it me or are all the new tracks heading for the stupid country club/rich SOB format now?

While not a fan from a drivers perspective, it is a business model that realistically allows the track to be self funded for a good portion of the capital construction costs. New tracks that didn't use this model (e.g. NJMP) are having a much tougher time getting into the black (NJMP is in chapter 11).

Provided they give adequate access to regional clubs I don't really care if it is "owned" by the rich. Monticello is the only one I can think of that has completely closed themselves off from outside access this year (this may change next year due to financial stress).

cossie1600 09-20-2011 12:29 PM

It's nice to know so many people are ready to lay $100000 for a few track days a year. Remember the place they tried to build many years ago in NH and in Palmer MA, imagine if you had paid money into them....

SPOHN 09-20-2011 12:37 PM

You guys are getting serious here. But I like the reading so keep it going. I don't know much about track developers and all. But overall I like this track layout and hope I get a chance to drive on it next year. I see no reason that won't happen.

Sharif@Forged 09-20-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1321851)
It's nice to know so many people are ready to lay $100000 for a few track days a year. Remember the place they tried to build many years ago in NH and in Palmer MA, imagine if you had paid money into them....

Not sure about Montecillo and NJMP, but the memerships at AMP start at $8500 and you get, I believe 90 days each year or something long those lines. I think the most expensive memebership at AMP is $40K, no due or other fees for life.

I like the model they chose, because nobody can physically use this many days, so in order to make the track a viable business opportunity, they rent the track out to various professional organizastions. I think that's the way to do it....total private club isn't the way to go, IMHO.

Road Atlanta is still going to be my favorite track for the forseable future, followed closely by VIR. If I lived closer to VIR, I think it would be my favorite. :)

Mike 09-20-2011 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1321795)

How far is ROad Atlanta from Atlanta? How do you guys support so many tracks?!?

Road Atlanta is about 40 miles Northeast of downtown Atlanta, and about 30 minutes from my house.

AMP is 60 miles north of Atlanta, 55 from me

AMS is 30 south of Atlanta

Little Talladega is 120 from Atlanta

Barber is 140 from Atlanta

Most events sell out at these venues.

cossie1600 09-20-2011 12:43 PM

F it. I am moving down south.

Sharif@Forged 09-20-2011 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1321876)
Road Atlanta is about 40 miles Northeast of downtown Atlanta, and about 30 minutes from my house.

AMP is 60 miles north of Atlanta, 55 from me

AMS is 30 south of Atlanta

Little Talladega is 120 from Atlanta

Barber is 140 from Atlanta

Most events sell out at these venues.

There is definately plenty of demand for weekend track days in this region...I can't think of a Road Atlanta, Barber, or VIR weekend track day that wasn't at full capacity with a waiting list.

I think Atlanta could use another good track, and being a major metro area makes it enticing to pro teams, professional racing sanctioning bodies, and track HPDE groups as well.

cossie1600 09-20-2011 12:51 PM

NYC is way bigger, yet there are only 3 tracks within 100 miles of the metro area. Absolutely annoying.

ChrisSlicks 09-20-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1321851)
It's nice to know so many people are ready to lay $100000 for a few track days a year. Remember the place they tried to build many years ago in NH and in Palmer MA, imagine if you had paid money into them....

The tracks in NH and Palmer are slowly making progress. They are caught up in legal red tape created by the towns they are building in. Things are always more complicated up North than they need to be, down South you just buy some land, grease some wheels and do whatever you want.

wh1te370z 09-20-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1321966)
The tracks in NH and Palmer are slowly making progress. They are caught up in legal red tape created by the towns they are building in. Things are always more complicated up North than they need to be, down South you just buy some land, grease some wheels and do whatever you want.

How long do the track in NH stay open for? cant be that long w all the snow u guys get

ChrisSlicks 09-20-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wh1te370z (Post 1321976)
How long do the track in NH stay open for? cant be that long w all the snow u guys get

The typical is April 1st to Oct 31st (7 months). The new one under construction in NH is a little further North so it's season may be a little shorter. Events at the beginning of April at NHMS have been occasionally snowed out, so the start of the season is always a little dicey.

sig11 09-21-2011 05:15 PM

The first LeMons race of the season at Gingerman (April 16-17th) was run in the snow/sleet. :)

HKYStormFront 09-21-2011 07:13 PM

this track looks really nice, wish it was done already!

SPOHN 03-02-2012 09:15 PM

I hope I'm not jumping the gun. But finally after a two years and many delays of AMP it has came to my attention that the green light was given and Chin Motorsports will be hosting a two day track event at the all new road course April 14-15. We locals along with others I'm sure of have been waitng on this for what seems like a eternity. It's nice to now have two great courses pretty much local to myself. Cant wait to rip it up.

It also has came to my attention that this track will be ran counter clock wise. Which means that the long carousel on the back side will be a left hander. So no fuel starvation there. Below is a ride through of the course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8AQ4j4O6mw

http://​www.atlantamotorsportspark.net/

ChrisSlicks 03-03-2012 10:46 AM

It looks like a really nice track. I see 2 potential problem corners, the hard right at the bottom of the hill before the bridge and the hard right at the top of the hill. The one at the top of the hill will probably be a little worse because the pickup is in the front of the tank.

SPOHN 03-03-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1579528)
It looks like a really nice track. I see 2 potential problem corners, the hard right at the bottom of the hill before the bridge and the hard right at the top of the hill. The one at the top of the hill will probably be a little worse because the pickup is in the front of the tank.

Yea I totally agree with you. More so with the top of the hill. I'll see soon enough.

ChrisSlicks 03-03-2012 11:14 AM

It's always exciting to see a new track open, look forward to your review!

flashburn 03-05-2012 07:34 AM

Sucks that they have that 98db noise restriction. That's really going to limit any events there. I have no clue how loud my car is, but hopefully its under that restriction. I want to go there this Fall.

Mike 03-05-2012 08:13 AM

Zs are probably fine. My buddy who has a Superleggera with test pipes and exhaust isn't so much. What he and others have learned though, is to lift when going by the sound monitors.

SPOHN 03-05-2012 08:20 AM

My exhaust setup seems loud. More deep sounding than anything. But being a Greddy it come with a tri mounted silencer so I can always put that back in. In which Greddy claims that keeps it under 94db.

ChrisSlicks 03-05-2012 08:51 AM

When measuring sound levels distance is the critical factor. If they are measuring sound levels at max rpm while standing 3 feet away from the back of the car 98dB is going to be easy to achieve if you have test pipes. If they are measuring it from 30 ft away at the side of the track then that same reading would have decayed several dB due to dispersion. Sometimes just driving on the opposite side of the track to where the meters are can help.

Also note that some tracks just go through the motions in order to comply with local regulations and don't actually enforce very heavily unless there is a blatant infraction. I was at one track which had a 98 dB limit at 10ft as measured in the pits with a hand monitor, some of us failed and had to "fix" and retest (read we just revved more slowly the next time). Then halfway through the day they cleared the track and brought out a daytona prototype car which was so insanely loud that you could tell where it was on the track just by listening to the sound echoing off the trees.

SPOHN 03-05-2012 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1582022)
When measuring sound levels distance is the critical factor. If they are measuring sound levels at max rpm while standing 3 feet away from the back of the car 98dB is going to be easy to achieve if you have test pipes. If they are measuring it from 30 ft away at the side of the track then that same reading would have decayed several dB due to dispersion. Sometimes just driving on the opposite side of the track to where the meters are can help.

Also note that some tracks just go through the motions in order to comply with local regulations and don't actually enforce very heavily unless there is a blatant infraction. I was at one track which had a 98 dB limit at 10ft as measured in the pits with a hand monitor, some of us failed and had to "fix" and retest (read we just revved more slowly the next time). Then halfway through the day they cleared the track and brought out a daytona prototype car which was so insanely loud that you could tell where it was on the track just by listening to the sound echoing off the trees.

AMP did say on there FB page that is going to be 98db at 50'. And I talked to a representative from AMP yesterday morning at one of are C&O events about this. He pretty much IMO didn't seem to worried about as he shrugged his shoulders. lol.

From the Google maps you can tell there's about three houses near the track but they look a decent amount of distance from there.

flashburn 03-05-2012 09:23 AM

Yeah, 50' doesn't sound too bad. It's still going to be an issue for any real races to occur at that track though.

red6spd 03-05-2012 09:58 AM

I hate NY!


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