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VertigoZ 04-24-2009 12:20 AM

HFC + Exhaust + Intake = 12's?
 
Just wondering what your thoughts are on 1/4 mile times with the above mods. It seems that stock 370Z's are running around 13.3-13.5. Do you think it can crack into the 12's with just HFC + Exhaust + Intake?

I cant wait to see some time slips from ppl with mods :yum:

wstar 04-24-2009 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by VertigoZ (Post 62160)
Just wondering what your thoughts are on 1/4 mile times with the above mods. It seems that stock 370Z's are running around 13.3-13.5. Do you think it can crack into the 12's with just HFC + Exhaust + Intake?

I cant wait to see some time slips from ppl with mods :yum:

I think it's possible that a full set of bolt-ons will put this car in the high 12's in the 1/4 mile. Full bolt-ons + tuning, almost definitely. I don't plan to drag race my car on a regular basis, but I'd like to run down to Houston Raceway Park and do a run just to see how it does. The primary reason I haven't done it yet, is I want to wait until all the mods are done and then just do it once.

One thing that sucks, from HRP's rules:
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A driveshaft loop is required on all cars running 13.99 (8.59) seconds and quicker, except vehicles running 13.00 and slower equipped with street tires.
So basically, if I do make it into the 12's, I won't be able to go back without installing a driveshaft loop, which honestly I really don't want to do since I'm not going to be dragracing this car in general.

bboypuertoroc 04-24-2009 03:09 AM

The car should be able to hit 12's stock with a great driver. Bolt-ons should most definitely get it into the 12's for most people.

VertigoZ 04-24-2009 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 62168)
I think it's possible that a full set of bolt-ons will put this car in the high 12's in the 1/4 mile. Full bolt-ons + tuning, almost definitely. I don't plan to drag race my car on a regular basis, but I'd like to run down to Houston Raceway Park and do a run just to see how it does. The primary reason I haven't done it yet, is I want to wait until all the mods are done and then just do it once.

One thing that sucks, from HRP's rules:
So basically, if I do make it into the 12's, I won't be able to go back without installing a driveshaft loop, which honestly I really don't want to do since I'm not going to be dragracing this car in general.

Well, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing your times! The mods on your car are pretty much what I intend to do on my Z (when I get one that is).

That HRP rule does suck... but I suppose you can take it easy for the first few runs and then on the last run of the day let it rip and break into the 12's and call it a day :)

VertigoZ 04-24-2009 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc (Post 62199)
The car should be able to hit 12's stock with a great driver. Bolt-ons should most definitely get it into the 12's for most people.

So you think 12's are possible stock? Hmm that would be nice... but the best magazine times I have seen are 13.3. Knocking another 0.4 seconds off that is quite a lot for a stock car... unless there is some major weight reduction done.

wstar 04-24-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by VertigoZ (Post 62204)
So you think 12's are possible stock? Hmm that would be nice... but the best magazine times I have seen are 13.3. Knocking another 0.4 seconds off that is quite a lot for a stock car... unless there is some major weight reduction done.

I don't think 12's are possible stock myself, if by stock you mean "straight from the dealership". You'd have to dump a lot of weight and/or get at least some bolt-ons done to drop that much time.

shabarivas 04-24-2009 12:31 PM

there are HR 350s that run 13.1 and 13.2 stock no?

wstar 04-24-2009 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 62383)
there are HR 350s that run 13.1 and 13.2 stock no?

I don't know TBH. I would kinda doubt it though, unless their definition of stock means at least some good drag tires.

NA&CH 04-24-2009 04:33 PM

12's stock could be possible. They have hit 13.1 stock to the tire on the HR. It would be awesome for a 12.9 stock 370. I think some nice tires and basic bolt-ons 12's easy :D

Chris

280z/300zx 04-25-2009 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 62383)
there are HR 350s that run 13.1 and 13.2 stock no?

Yup, this is true. There aren't many people doing this but there have been some. Getting a 370z to crack a 12.9 is possibe but it would have to be a good driver and at a good track. Not all tracks are created equal. Lastly, I seriously doubt anything faster than 12.9 is possible stock.

bboypuertoroc 04-26-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by VertigoZ (Post 62204)
So you think 12's are possible stock? Hmm that would be nice... but the best magazine times I have seen are 13.3. Knocking another 0.4 seconds off that is quite a lot for a stock car... unless there is some major weight reduction done.

Absolutely possible.

Think about it... the best mag times for the HR were like 13.5's and people ran 13.1's bone stock down to the tire.

RCZ 04-26-2009 08:37 PM

Stock, no. With those mods, probably.

Spec Jay 04-27-2009 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc (Post 63513)
Absolutely possible.

Think about it... the best mag times for the HR were like 13.5's and people ran 13.1's bone stock down to the tire.

exactly what i was thinking

btw hi haha

ianthegreat 05-04-2009 07:30 PM

Nissan 370Z 1/4 Mile Drag Racing Timeslips - DragTimes.com

I don't see anything near 12's yet. Start posting your slips guys!

Diversion 05-04-2009 07:43 PM

Full exhaust and intakes net nearly 50 more whp.. Yes, a great driver should be able to hit 12.9XX at around 108-110 mph I would say. I've seen some 106/107 mph traps already.. these cars have monsterous roll performance.

bboypuertoroc 05-06-2009 02:47 AM

FYI, an auto 370Z has already ran a 13.1. 12's are possible stock.

ianthegreat 05-07-2009 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc (Post 68240)
FYI, an auto 370Z has already ran a 13.1. 12's are possible stock.

video of this somewhere? dragtimes.com doesn't have it... i keep seeing people mention it, but it's only heresay

eXo5 05-07-2009 09:32 PM

If I ever came home with a 12.99 I would be happy.

wstar 05-08-2009 12:15 AM

I'm pretty confident I could do 12.99 or better today on my 7AT, assuming no launch or traction problems. I'm waiting to go to the strip until I get a little further along in the mod process though.

ianthegreat 05-08-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 69460)
I'm pretty confident I could do 12.99 or better today on my 7AT, assuming no launch or traction problems. I'm waiting to go to the strip until I get a little further along in the mod process though.

make sure to save the slips and record it!

KillerBee370 05-11-2009 09:32 AM

I bet mine and a few others here could pull it off.

t-ray 05-11-2009 12:22 PM

Stop assuming your car is capable of xxx and go out an do it. Because until *you* accomplish such a task in *your* car, posts like "my car should be able to..." are basically worthless.

That being said, a 6mt driver should be able to see high 12's in good air with nothing but DR's.

ZYUL8R 05-11-2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by t-ray (Post 71243)
Stop assuming your car is capable of xxx and go out an do it. Because until *you* accomplish such a task in *your* car, posts like "my car should be able to..." are basically worthless.

That being said, a 6mt driver should be able to see high 12's in good air with nothing but DR's.

LOL..did you just contradict yourself?

KillerBee370 05-11-2009 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ZYUL8R (Post 71268)
LOL..did you just contradict yourself?

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KillerBee370 05-11-2009 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by t-ray (Post 71243)
Stop assuming your car is capable of xxx and go out an do it. Because until *you* accomplish such a task in *your* car, posts like "my car should be able to..." are basically worthless.

That being said, a 6mt driver should be able to see high 12's in good air with nothing but DR's.

You could try it too you know. Oh wait.. you have to actually have a Z for that! :owned:

wstar 05-11-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by t-ray (Post 71243)
Stop assuming your car is capable of xxx and go out an do it. Because until *you* accomplish such a task in *your* car, posts like "my car should be able to..." are basically worthless.

That being said, a 6mt driver should be able to see high 12's in good air with nothing but DR's.

Seriously, why don't you buy a 370 and take it to a dragstrip yourself, then come back and complain. I'm not a drag strip junkie, I only plan on going once or twice with this car ever, and I'm waiting for a couple more mods to be done before I do it.

iinviktus 05-11-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ianthegreat (Post 69276)
video of this somewhere? dragtimes.com doesn't have it... i keep seeing people mention it, but it's only heresay

2009 Nissan 370Z Automatic - Short Take Road Test/Japanese Performance/High Performance/Hot Lists/Reviews/Car and Driver - Car And Driver

bboypuertoroc 05-13-2009 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-ray (Post 71243)
Stop assuming your car is capable of xxx and go out an do it. Because until *you* accomplish such a task in *your* car, posts like "my car should be able to..." are basically worthless.

That being said, a 6mt driver should be able to see high 12's in good air with nothing but DR's.

Fial post quoted for extra fial.

Contradiction FTL.

Crash 05-13-2009 07:00 AM

Almost every car I've ever driven that was stick went faster in the 1/4 than the manufacturer published. But I also beat the piss out of the car when I do it. I'd put money down that I could make the car run 13 flat or faster bone stock. With those mods, maybe 12.8 to 12.6.

t-ray 05-14-2009 09:15 AM

After re-reading what I wrote - yes, I did contract myself because I was not clear.

I don't know if the car is going to be able to touch 12s bone stock. But the car is more than capable of hitting high 12's with nothing but good air and DR's. That is a fact.

The other point - I don't understand why anybody got his panties in a wad over my comments. I'm not putting down the z, or any particular driver, or anything like that. But I've been doing this long enough that I've seen plenty of people say something like "well I should run xxx" then go out and run a full second slower. Hell, I've done it myself.

There's a thread right now where a guy ran high 13's at 102mph, and he's modded. Everybody is running around telling him that he needs to launch better, or take of VDC, bla bla bla. Nobody seems to have noticed that he's running at Firebird. Hell, 102mph at Firebird is not bad at all.

And I don't have to own a 370, or even a z, to post about it or join a forum about it. I want a z, badly, but I can't have one. Just too impractical. But I know what I'm talking about. At the moment, I'm the fastest all-motor g35 in north america, at least that I know of.

wstar 05-14-2009 09:43 AM

Well track selection (Firebird) isn't an issue for me. My local track happens to be one of the fastest in the country anyways :)

Houston Raceway Park | Home

VeeTec 05-14-2009 10:40 AM

Yes, a stock 370Z is capable of running high 12's. I have driven the auto and the manual, and they are both quicker than the HR, with similar miles.

It's up to the driver and the conditions, to get it done.

ianthegreat 05-14-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 72816)
Well track selection (Firebird) isn't an issue for me. My local track happens to be one of the fastest in the country anyways :)

Houston Raceway Park | Home

We should meet up there sometime. I'd like to see if anyone can put down 12's. Right now, it hasn't been done. Maybe first week of june? I've got a buddy who will be down from SA w/ his 370z and we will both be there one weekend.

theDreamer 05-14-2009 11:55 AM

Sounds good, I would love to see some 370z runs, and see wstar's car run.

wstar 05-14-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 72881)
Sounds good, I would love to see some 370z runs, and see wstar's car run.

I was hoping to at least get my oil cooler in first, but the weather is only gonna get worse (hotter) anyways. I could be down for this.

theDreamer 05-14-2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 72883)
I was hoping to at least get my oil cooler in first, but the weather is only gonna get worse (hotter) anyways. I could be down for this.

I think you should be fine with only a couple of runs, also depends on the time between each run.

ianthegreat 05-14-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 72885)
I think you should be fine with only a couple of runs, also depends on the time between each run.

Agreed, we'll normally run one then wait 20 to 30 minutes before the next. Usually Friday nights (open street) aren't to busy and you only have to wait in line for <15 minutes.

RCZ 05-14-2009 05:21 PM

Im gonna take mine one of these days to see what it can do :)

wstar 05-21-2009 07:44 AM

Actually I'm gonna sneak out there (HRP) this friday (tomorrow) assuming nothing changes between now and then. It happens to be a good friday for me to have time to run out there anyways.

NIZMOZ 05-21-2009 08:07 AM

Good luck guys. The 370z should be hitting 12s stock with a good driver. But I will say SAR in San Antonio sucks! Went there last night, and had no traction, terrible 60 fts, best timeslip I got was a 13.8 at 102. But best trap was 104. I just spun and spun no matter what rpm I launched at. Another 350z with the HR did 14.4s with slicks and I was on street tires. A 370z was there also, 6mt, runnning 14.0s. I think he got a 13.9 finally close to the end of the night, his traps were 104~ area as well.

The track prep was terrible, we had cars that should be in the 13s running 14s.


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