Ice mode solution?

Crazy4Z · 04-17-2011, 12:49 PM

cant you turn the ice mode off?

ChrisSlicks · 04-17-2011, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Z

cant you turn the ice mode off?

Wouldn't that be nice? No such luck.

I had it a little bit yesterday on my very last run. Once my front rotors got hot (I heard my 2-piece rotors clicking as they expanded while I was waiting in staging) that was when the problem started. Could have been a good thing though as it forced me to carry more corner speed and I picked up 1.5 seconds and the win!

Crazy4Z · 04-17-2011, 01:30 PM

Nice!^^ well in my 2011 model i can turn mine off in the dash. i dont know if it will be fully off though.

spearfish25 · 04-17-2011, 01:30 PM

^So we should call it "autocross improvement mode"?

spearfish25 · 04-17-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Z

Nice!^^ well in my 2011 model i can turn mine off in the dash. i dont know if it will be fully off though.

Uh? No you can't. Like every other 370Z, you can turn off VDC. Ice mode is neither recognized by the manufacturer or a user defeatable option.

ChrisSlicks · 04-17-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Z

Nice!^^ well in my 2011 model i can turn mine off in the dash. i dont know if it will be fully off though.

I think you are looking at the VDC (traction control switch). It unfortunately has no effect on the ice mode ABS problem.

flashburn · 04-17-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I can throw my XP10 on in the front and leave the stock in the rears and try that

Just wondering if you've been able to test out this setup yet?

cossie1600 · 04-17-2011, 02:56 PM

My garage is filled with junk thanks to some house construction, I will try it the next couple week or two as it only takes me 45 minutes to do the front brakes.

flashburn · 04-17-2011, 03:09 PM

Cool, thanks cossie. I'd be curious to see if XP10/Stock would be a viable setup for the track. I normally run XP10/XP8.

cossie1600 · 04-17-2011, 03:58 PM

I don't know what tires you run, but you are in a lot of trouble if you run XP10s with the V12s. The problem with the stock pad rear setup is that the Z cars have a lot of rear bias, I think the pads will overheat quickly if you do that. The solution is a low bite but high temperature resistance pad I think.

travisjb · 04-17-2011, 05:43 PM

I'll throw one other idea out there that has helped me somewhat... spend time driving AX/track with ABS off whether your classing allows it or not... use that time to dial in your setup... tune dampers, springs, tire pressure, brake pad selection, anything you can, until you get max braking performance without ABS... then turn ABS back on... I uncovered a lot of issues with my setup this way, and although I only have a few events since doing this no ice mode yet... that plus adding cooling to front brakes seems to have helped

I generally run (softer) mintex xtreme front pads... before I was running stiffer pads, and I had a low-speed wall contact at a lower speed track that involved over-heating brakes and ice mode... switched to softer compound and all was good... at faster tracks with high-speed transitions I am still using the stiffer compound and getting my best times that way... e.g., chuckwalla where all the braking is done at high speeds and the brakes get plenty of cooling

Crazy4Z · 04-17-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

I think you are looking at the VDC (traction control switch). It unfortunately has no effect on the ice mode ABS problem.

i know what the vdc is. I'm talking about the option menu on the left of the dash where there are two buttons.. there is an ice alarm which i do not know if it can sense icy roads or weather it can enable an ice mode. i did not play with it yet since I'm not in a a snow environment. but u can select to turn off or on the ice alarm.

ChrisSlicks · 04-17-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Z

i know what the vdc is. I'm talking about the option menu on the left of the dash where there are two buttons.. there is an ice alarm which i do not know if it can sense icy roads or weather it can enable an ice mode. i did not play with it yet since I'm not in a a snow environment. but u can select to turn off or on the ice alarm.

That is just for the warning when the outside temperature drops to near freezing (37F) or below. It doesn't have any effect on the vehicle systems.

flashburn · 04-17-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I don't know what tires you run, but you are in a lot of trouble if you run XP10s with the V12s. The problem with the stock pad rear setup is that the Z cars have a lot of rear bias, I think the pads will overheat quickly if you do that. The solution is a low bite but high temperature resistance pad I think.

I only ran with the V12's for my first event. I didn't have any complaints.

I have a set of Starspec's now, which I'll be using for the first time in a couple of weeks.

Crazy4Z · 04-17-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

That is just for the warning when the outside temperature drops to near freezing (37F) or below. It doesn't have any effect on the vehicle systems.

oh ok. thanks for the info.

04-17-2011, 01:30 PM	#34 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	^So we should call it "autocross improvement mode"? __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

04-17-2011, 03:09 PM	#39 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 18	Cool, thanks cossie. I'd be curious to see if XP10/Stock would be a viable setup for the track. I normally run XP10/XP8. __________________ Current Ride: 2012 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport Centennial Edition Carbon Flash 6M Previous Ride: 2009 Nissan 370Z Sport Platinum Graphite 7AT

04-17-2011, 05:43 PM	#41 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	I'll throw one other idea out there that has helped me somewhat... spend time driving AX/track with ABS off whether your classing allows it or not... use that time to dial in your setup... tune dampers, springs, tire pressure, brake pad selection, anything you can, until you get max braking performance without ABS... then turn ABS back on... I uncovered a lot of issues with my setup this way, and although I only have a few events since doing this no ice mode yet... that plus adding cooling to front brakes seems to have helped I generally run (softer) mintex xtreme front pads... before I was running stiffer pads, and I had a low-speed wall contact at a lower speed track that involved over-heating brakes and ice mode... switched to softer compound and all was good... at faster tracks with high-speed transitions I am still using the stiffer compound and getting my best times that way... e.g., chuckwalla where all the braking is done at high speeds and the brakes get plenty of cooling __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

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Crazy4Z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Long Beach Posts: 185 Drives: Nissan 370Z NISMO BS Rep Power: 14	cant you turn the ice mode off?

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Crazy4Z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Long Beach Posts: 185 Drives: Nissan 370Z NISMO BS Rep Power: 14	Nice!^^ well in my 2011 model i can turn mine off in the dash. i dont know if it will be fully off though.

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	My garage is filled with junk thanks to some house construction, I will try it the next couple week or two as it only takes me 45 minutes to do the front brakes.

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	I don't know what tires you run, but you are in a lot of trouble if you run XP10s with the V12s. The problem with the stock pad rear setup is that the Z cars have a lot of rear bias, I think the pads will overheat quickly if you do that. The solution is a low bite but high temperature resistance pad I think.