Major Track Faults of the 370

FricFrac · 02-12-2011, 01:22 PM

Stainless clutch is going to change how the clutch responds/feels not it "going away".

First thing is as others have mentioned to flush your fluid. I'm assuming you know how hygroscopic clutch fluid is and the difference between wet/dry boiling points, etc.

I think the Castrol LMA is one of the best clutch/brake fluid for a performance DD type of car. There are a few slightly better fluids but they are very hygroscopic and should be changed after a day at the track....

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp...BrakeFluid.pdf

FricFrac · 02-12-2011, 06:19 PM

What about running a secondary resevoir after the tank or is that allowed?

import111 · 02-12-2011, 08:23 PM

Sucks for me cause the closest track to me has a very long dirt road from the main road to the track and no gas at the track and nearest gas station is 12 miles from the track. I would end up driving over 100 miles just to fill up before/after every session. Screw that.

cossie1600 · 02-13-2011, 12:23 AM

yup, bring 2-3 5 gallon jugs as your backup. I honestly don't recall if my car got the hick up after 1 or 2 20 minute session, I think it was 2 sessions.

cossie1600 · 02-13-2011, 01:08 PM

There are less than a handful of people that have tracked their cars. Most people buy their Z to look cool, they are missing out half the fun.

CrownR426 · 02-13-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

There are less than a handful of people that have tracked their cars. Most people buy their Z to look cool, they are missing out half the fun.

Ya, look cool ripping into turns!

I believe that people get the Z because it is a true sports car at an affordable price.
To each his own, but it's badass that you guys track.
Love reading and checking those videos out.

cossie1600 · 02-13-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426

Ya, look cool ripping into turns!

I believe that people get the Z because it is a true sports car at an affordable price.
To each his own, but it's badass that you guys track.
Love reading and checking those videos out.

You should give it a shot. Just be smart and you will be fine. You don't want to wait till you are too old and not be able to do it

spearfish25 · 02-13-2011, 03:15 PM

It takes more than just putting the Z on the track. You have to be driving near the limit. I'm sure plenty of people drive at 7/10ths on tracks without long sweeping right-handers and don't ever get fuel starvation.

cossie1600 · 02-13-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

It takes more than just putting the Z on the track. You have to be driving near the limit. I'm sure plenty of people drive at 7/10ths on tracks without long sweeping right-handers and don't ever get fuel starvation.

It's hard to tell people to drive balls to the wall everytime you are at the track, especially when we are not backed by sponsors or trustfunds. As long as the driver is driving at a reasonable rate (107% rule?), I don't see what is wrong driving at a pace that you are comfortable with. One thing I do hate is that people get cocky and think they are better than what they are because they compare themselves to other schmoes at some track day. If a 911 is driven by a good driver, can someone in a Miata really keep up? Come on

spearfish25 · 02-13-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

It's hard to tell people to drive balls to the wall everytime you are at the track, especially when we are not backed by sponsors or trustfunds. As long as the driver is driving at a reasonable rate (107% rule?), I don't see what is wrong driving at a pace that you are comfortable with. One thing I do hate is that people get cocky and think they are better than what they are because they compare themselves to other schmoes at some track day. If a 911 is driven by a good driver, can someone in a Miata really keep up? Come on

Huh? I wasn't being pretentious or telling people how to drive. Nor was I commenting on my own abilities. I merely stated that fuel starvation occurs under specific, rather extreme conditions.

cossie1600 · 02-13-2011, 10:02 PM

Oh yeah. There is one thing that is consistent, it is all on sweeping right hand turns.

Autox is not the same as track days!

flashburn · 02-14-2011, 07:56 AM

Last turn at Sebring, I hit some fuel starvation a little under 3/4 of a tank, and this was my first track day. Luckily when this happened it was towards the end of my 2nd session, so hopefully I won't have an issue if I fuel up after each session, once I am driving it more aggressively. Still a huge PITA though, and I wish there was an easy solution (e.g. not having to ship my tank out to get modified).

I'm sure at Sebring that would be the only turn I would have a problem with though, so if I could just tell my brain to take that turn slower than normal, I'd probably be able to avoid it completely. But what is the fun in that?

cossie1600 · 02-14-2011, 09:04 AM

Once again, hard steady right hand corner is the culprit

Mike · 02-14-2011, 09:32 AM

yep, and the carousel at Road America is the absolute worst! Its such a fun corner to exit all out, and the car wouldn't let me

ChrisSlicks · 02-14-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

yep, and the carousel at Road America is the absolute worst! Its such a fun corner to exit all out, and the car wouldn't let me

At least when I go to Summit Point this year the Karussel is a left hander.

02-12-2011, 01:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
FricFrac A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 1,481 Drives: 370Z 300ZX 280ZX 240 Rep Power: 229	Stainless clutch is going to change how the clutch responds/feels not it "going away". First thing is as others have mentioned to flush your fluid. I'm assuming you know how hygroscopic clutch fluid is and the difference between wet/dry boiling points, etc. I think the Castrol LMA is one of the best clutch/brake fluid for a performance DD type of car. There are a few slightly better fluids but they are very hygroscopic and should be changed after a day at the track.... http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp...BrakeFluid.pdf __________________ '09 370Z - '93 300ZX Vert - '83 280ZX - '83 280ZXT -'81 280ZXT stroker - '72 240Z - Stillen CBE, HFC, G3, Grounding Kit, Sways // Swift Spring // H&R 15mm // 5% Tint // Clear Bra //

02-12-2011, 06:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
FricFrac A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 1,481 Drives: 370Z 300ZX 280ZX 240 Rep Power: 229	What about running a secondary resevoir after the tank or is that allowed? __________________ '09 370Z - '93 300ZX Vert - '83 280ZX - '83 280ZXT -'81 280ZXT stroker - '72 240Z - Stillen CBE, HFC, G3, Grounding Kit, Sways // Swift Spring // H&R 15mm // 5% Tint // Clear Bra //

02-13-2011, 03:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	It takes more than just putting the Z on the track. You have to be driving near the limit. I'm sure plenty of people drive at 7/10ths on tracks without long sweeping right-handers and don't ever get fuel starvation. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

02-14-2011, 07:56 AM	#12 (permalink)
flashburn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,884 Drives: '12 Corvette GS 6M Rep Power: 20	Last turn at Sebring, I hit some fuel starvation a little under 3/4 of a tank, and this was my first track day. Luckily when this happened it was towards the end of my 2nd session, so hopefully I won't have an issue if I fuel up after each session, once I am driving it more aggressively. Still a huge PITA though, and I wish there was an easy solution (e.g. not having to ship my tank out to get modified). I'm sure at Sebring that would be the only turn I would have a problem with though, so if I could just tell my brain to take that turn slower than normal, I'd probably be able to avoid it completely. But what is the fun in that? __________________ Current Ride: 2012 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport Centennial Edition Carbon Flash 6M Previous Ride: 2009 Nissan 370Z Sport Platinum Graphite 7AT

02-14-2011, 09:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2187	yep, and the carousel at Road America is the absolute worst! Its such a fun corner to exit all out, and the car wouldn't let me __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

02-12-2011, 08:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
import111 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ. Posts: 622 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 192	Sucks for me cause the closest track to me has a very long dirt road from the main road to the track and no gas at the track and nearest gas station is 12 miles from the track. I would end up driving over 100 miles just to fill up before/after every session. Screw that.

02-13-2011, 12:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	yup, bring 2-3 5 gallon jugs as your backup. I honestly don't recall if my car got the hick up after 1 or 2 20 minute session, I think it was 2 sessions.

02-13-2011, 01:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	There are less than a handful of people that have tracked their cars. Most people buy their Z to look cool, they are missing out half the fun.

02-13-2011, 10:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	Oh yeah. There is one thing that is consistent, it is all on sweeping right hand turns. Autox is not the same as track days!

02-14-2011, 09:04 AM	#13 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	Once again, hard steady right hand corner is the culprit

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