12.942 @ 106.80 Pass Tonight with room to improve in my 6M

Z eliminator · 05-07-2010, 10:18 PM

The Z goes up in smoke tonight!!!!!
The weather here was terrible it rained all day .
There was a 2 hour window at the track and i desided to go for it.
They tried to dry out the track and they let us race on it.
It was 42 degree's and the wind was againts you at least 25 miles an hour into the nose of the car.
There was only 7 cars there and one of then was a white GTR.
My dream come true. to finally line up with a GTR and see how fast they are.
This is my first time at a big name track and its the first time racing at night.
Everything went wrong. Too much gas in the car.2/3 of a trank
My ecu would not let me heat up the tire's. it kept stalling out the engine.
The best i could do was floor it out of water box and spin then close to the start line.
The weather conditions got worse every run as there was no prep on the track at all.
My first pass was an earth shattering 16.613 @98.11 with a 2.6 60 ft time. I did the 1/8 in 11.38. It spun the tires through 1st, 2nd and half way through third. I hit the rev limiter at 8100 in 1st and 2nd. It also fish taled on me at the gear changes. ( not a good feeling) There was no traction any where on the track.
I thanked God that i survied that run with me and the car in one piece.
I foolishly decided that i should make another run, ( the storm was coming and the wind got worse.
I took the tire down to 20 psig had my best run of the night, 13.099 @ 110.02 with a 2.121 go ft time. it did the 1/8th in 8.502 @ 87.16.
I can not belive how the 305 35 18 drag radials just spun in 1st gear. I tried every thing for rolloing the car at 750 rpm and them feathering it but my times got worse and worse,
And now for the main event The 370 vs the GTR. we got into the staging lanes and they shut down the track as it was too dangerous to race because the rain had started to sprinkle down. his best pass was a 12.3. he never showed me the time slip but i do not think that he went that fast. The car would not hook and i learned a good lesson tonight that a non preped track in 42 degree outside air temp is a bad thing to race on.
I feel bad as i have let the 370z guys down tonight. I could not imangne have a GTM Sc on the car tonight as im sure i would have hit the side retaining walls with the loss of traction. The only good thing about tonight is that the motor sounded wicked in side the car the intake temp's were 46 degress acording to the cobb.

Im so disappionted at my times.
But warmer weather is coming and i will try again. It was not the night to drag race, i learned the hard way. For all you guys racing in cold conditions be carefull as its not worth it for you could lose control of your car and have a bad acciddent. I had one scarey moment when it spun the tire's at 8000 rpm in 2nd gear, and it spun when i shiffed into 3rd. i will never race in these conditions again.
Z Eliminator

chuckd05 · 05-07-2010, 10:31 PM

Ahhh, its no big deal... 46 degrees your engine would love but def not the tires... That stinks though. Def happens. 16.6 lol

I am going with the 16 inch radial with the taller sidewall yet skinnier tire to attempt to get traction.

Z Elim, I looked at our ABS fuse under the hood and it is part of a series of 3 fuses in one plastic holster. And with one being the vvel I was not about to mess with it, Is that the same way the ABS fuse is in the 350 ???? I'm going to buy another fuse before I mess with it, and possible try to disable the one ABS fuse by cutting the current fuse, Than if that allows me to do burnouts I than will some how solder a wire with its own inline fuse with a switch to turn ABS off for burnouts at the strip.

03threefiftyz · 05-08-2010, 12:35 AM

Zeliminator....with any drag oriented tire....sidewall height is more important than width. There are an absolute ton of cars that go 9's or better now on 275/60/15's. Going to have to drop the pressure down to 15-16 and really heat 'em up with temps in the 40-50 degree range with that short of a sidewall. I am sure you will get it dialed in.....

Red370....my only issue is your attitude in posting...I have no qualm with posting of your vid, etc.....I think this HR vs VHR thing is pretty silly. All that being said.....you only ran like a 13.3X in that vid correct? What would people have thought I had I beat you by the same amount and posted it up? Just sayin'......the results are arbitrary and highly dependent on driver skill/experience.

Red370 · 05-08-2010, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz

Zeliminator....with any drag oriented tire....sidewall height is more important than width. There are an absolute ton of cars that go 9's or better now on 275/60/15's. Going to have to drop the pressure down to 15-16 and really heat 'em up with temps in the 40-50 degree range with that short of a sidewall. I am sure you will get it dialed in.....

Red370....my only issue is your attitude in posting...I have no qualm with posting of your vid, etc.....I think this HR vs VHR thing is pretty silly. All that being said.....you only ran like a 13.3X in that vid correct? What would people have thought I had I beat you by the same amount and posted it up? Just sayin'......the results are arbitrary and highly dependent on driver skill/experience.

I didnt post that video, someone else from here did, I didnt post it because i knew it would turn into a flame war as it did. I dont post there anymore because the maturity level there is laughable. But congrats on being the first 12 second 6MT Chuck!

1slow370 · 05-08-2010, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz

Zeliminator....with any drag oriented tire....sidewall height is more important than width. There are an absolute ton of cars that go 9's or better now on 275/60/15's. Going to have to drop the pressure down to 15-16 and really heat 'em up with temps in the 40-50 degree range with that short of a sidewall. I am sure you will get it dialed in.....

Red370....my only issue is your attitude in posting...I have no qualm with posting of your vid, etc.....I think this HR vs VHR thing is pretty silly. All that being said.....you only ran like a 13.3X in that vid correct? What would people have thought I had I beat you by the same amount and posted it up? Just sayin'......the results are arbitrary and highly dependent on driver skill/experience.

no offense either way but you're kinda the guy all up in the 370 board with the Blah Blah 13.XX ur cars arent that much beter Blah guy here ya know...

03threefiftyz · 05-08-2010, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370

no offense either way but you're kinda the guy all up in the 370 board with the Blah Blah 13.XX ur cars arent that much beter Blah guy here ya know...

No, I'm really not. I posted in here because Chuck and I had a running dialogue through PM, etc on my350 and I wanted to give him props for his runs. I just don't like the way red370 handled himself in the my350z thread. In fact...I was the one that initially posted that I expect to see some 12.4-12.6's out of bolt-on VHR's. The other 350 users didn't like that too much. I'm past it now.

takumi · 05-09-2010, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05

I Went to the Englishtown RaceWay Park tonight. like I have said in other threads I was shooting for a 12 second pass with my manual 370z Base No Sport package so no VLSD 370z and got it.

I used 26x10.5 M/T ET Streets and I must say these are NOT the tires I will use again. I am not familiar with slicks or the "sway" they produce without skinnes. These tires are something to get used to. I did, to an extent, but with no doubt about it I was concentrating more on the "sway" than driving so I definatly did not drive as well as I could of. I ran the psi at 18 the first pass and Let off 3 different times and still pulled a 13.2 @ 101 ... Was easily my best launch too, which was weird because it was the first pass I ever did with the slicks. I let off a few times because I felt the " sway " ( strange side to side feeling the first run but got used to it when I realized its not all that intrusive, just noticable. Def something most have never felt going 70+ mph ) ...

I upped the psi to 21 and the sway was def tamed a good bit, and I was able to push the car pretty good. When I spoke to others they said the sway is a known thing and you get skinnies for that, etc. Most just advised me to get the M/T ET street radials a drag radial instead of the taller side walled ET Steet slick I have. A ET street radial a nice and light 17/18 x 10 would be perfect to keep the cars feel the most OEM while still getting traction.

But with that aside my first run was 13.2 @ 101 ... second 13.0x @ 106 ....

and third 12.954@106.80

The 60 foot is decent, and keep in mind this is on an open diff , and I did not pull the ABS fuse so I was not able to do stand stills. I simply went around the water with my M/T ET Streets and did a rolling burnout or 2. Def not ideal to heat the rubber, I need to look into getting the ABS disabled so I can at least light them up without abs or whatever it is that cuts the fuel and dis-allows a stand still burnout.

But even with being a bit nervous about the tire situation they certainly hooked way better than my stock rubber did. A few weeks back, my first 1/4 track visit I couldn't do better than a 13.5. With 60's of 2.2 + .

The ET Streets without heating them up got me a 1.945, But a 60 of 1.94 is nothing to be proud of with these tires. I could of done better. I'm hoping I can get a nice setup of Drag Radials for next time and sell these wheels off to someone who will use them properly, because I wouldnt advise to use them with stock rubber up front unless you are used to the experience. A turbo 350z was there with the same tires with stock rubber up front too and he knew what he was doing , so its not like its soooo scary, but a wierd feeling with the slicks causing the car feel as if its floating almost.

I will see better numbers with this car the way it is with just a new tire setup. I was always driving nervous and I think shifting too early and slower than desired because of this sway feeling. That is my guess why my trap is , almost, much lower than I expected.

But all together My 370z certainly did not disappoint tonight, it ran better times a bunch of srt 8's , I lined up and beat a Z4M that was Dinan'ed out. The guy was really cool, we bs'ed a little bit, he couldn't hook at all, but I have our race and slip I will post and you will see, his car never starts to catch up. But he needed new rubber. I drooled over this car, ill post the pics.

I raced and beat a New SS Camaro ( 13.9 - 12.9 ), BMW z4m very tastefully modded (13.7-13.2), a near stock 09 evo mr by less than one tenth ( 13.155 - 13.187 ! great race )

and got whooped by a c5 with bolt ons + 100 shot... that was my first run and at 1/8 of mile i was one tenth behind him but this is the run where I let off a few times because I felt the tires acting up. ( 12.135 - 13.206 )

i saw you run nice passes. i was also in the wrx on the way home my titan was pulling the blue car.

chuckd05 · 05-09-2010, 04:16 PM

hahaha small world... vinny had said you had a 370 too... I think u missed the 12.9 though. I was trying to launch from higher and higher towards the end of the night and the outcome was 13.0 - 13.2

2700 seemed to be the sweet spot that night... I should of kept with that..

Were you driving the TT 350 ? You or who ever was driving looked to have a little trouble getting traction even with those MTs ...

What kind of power is your beast pushing ? I was expecting to see you go atleast low 12s.

Seemed like the WRX wanted to run but after a fun night racing I was trying to get locked up in NJ , lmao. He ran his car too right ?

takumi · 05-09-2010, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05

hahaha small world... vinny had said you had a 370 too... I think u missed the 12.9 though. I was trying to launch from higher and higher towards the end of the night and the outcome was 13.0 - 13.2

2700 seemed to be the sweet spot that night... I should of kept with that..

Were you driving the TT 350 ? You or who ever was driving looked to have a little trouble getting traction even with those MTs ...

What kind of power is your beast pushing ? I was expecting to see you go atleast low 12s.

Seemed like the WRX wanted to run but after a fun night racing I was trying to get locked up in NJ , lmao. He ran his car too right ?

thats Rocky's 350 i just provided the truck for the tow. i know the 350 is pushing some serious numbers with the JWT 800 series kit. we might go back out on WED night. the wrx ran a 13.6

Solus · 05-10-2010, 02:38 PM

6mt
JWT pop chargers
Berk Test Pipes
really heavy monoblock 20s w/ 315/35r20 nitto invos on the back lol

murph18 · 05-10-2010, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solus

6mt
JWT pop chargers
Berk Test Pipes
really heavy monoblock 20s w/ 315/35r20 nitto invos on the back lol

have the stock sport wheels on the car but the 2 subs and box adding about 100 pounds. could try taking it out for one run.

Solus · 05-10-2010, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murph18

have the stock sport wheels on the car but the 2 subs and box adding about 100 pounds. could try taking it out for one run.

If you ever go aftermarket for the rims and want to get rid of yours let me know.

ByP · 06-07-2010, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05

I Went to the Englishtown RaceWay Park tonight. like I have said in other threads I was shooting for a 12 second pass with my manual 370z Base No Sport package so no VLSD 370z and got it.

I used 26x10.5 M/T ET Streets and I must say these are NOT the tires I will use again. I am not familiar with slicks or the "sway" they produce without skinnes. These tires are something to get used to. I did, to an extent, but with no doubt about it I was concentrating more on the "sway" than driving so I definatly did not drive as well as I could of. I ran the psi at 18 the first pass and Let off 3 different times and still pulled a 13.2 @ 101 ... Was easily my best launch too, which was weird because it was the first pass I ever did with the slicks. I let off a few times because I felt the " sway " ( strange side to side feeling the first run but got used to it when I realized its not all that intrusive, just noticable. Def something most have never felt going 70+ mph ) ...

I upped the psi to 21 and the sway was def tamed a good bit, and I was able to push the car pretty good. When I spoke to others they said the sway is a known thing and you get skinnies for that, etc. Most just advised me to get the M/T ET street radials a drag radial instead of the taller side walled ET Steet slick I have. A ET street radial a nice and light 17/18 x 10 would be perfect to keep the cars feel the most OEM while still getting traction.

But with that aside my first run was 13.2 @ 101 ... second 13.0x @ 106 ....

and third 12.954@106.80

The 60 foot is decent, and keep in mind this is on an open diff , and I did not pull the ABS fuse so I was not able to do stand stills. I simply went around the water with my M/T ET Streets and did a rolling burnout or 2. Def not ideal to heat the rubber, I need to look into getting the ABS disabled so I can at least light them up without abs or whatever it is that cuts the fuel and dis-allows a stand still burnout.

But even with being a bit nervous about the tire situation they certainly hooked way better than my stock rubber did. A few weeks back, my first 1/4 track visit I couldn't do better than a 13.5. With 60's of 2.2 + .

The ET Streets without heating them up got me a 1.945, But a 60 of 1.94 is nothing to be proud of with these tires. I could of done better. I'm hoping I can get a nice setup of Drag Radials for next time and sell these wheels off to someone who will use them properly, because I wouldnt advise to use them with stock rubber up front unless you are used to the experience. A turbo 350z was there with the same tires with stock rubber up front too and he knew what he was doing , so its not like its soooo scary, but a wierd feeling with the slicks causing the car feel as if its floating almost.

I will see better numbers with this car the way it is with just a new tire setup. I was always driving nervous and I think shifting too early and slower than desired because of this sway feeling. That is my guess why my trap is , almost, much lower than I expected.

But all together My 370z certainly did not disappoint tonight, it ran better times a bunch of srt 8's , I lined up and beat a Z4M that was Dinan'ed out. The guy was really cool, we bs'ed a little bit, he couldn't hook at all, but I have our race and slip I will post and you will see, his car never starts to catch up. But he needed new rubber. I drooled over this car, ill post the pics.

I raced and beat a New SS Camaro ( 13.9 - 12.9 ), BMW z4m very tastefully modded (13.7-13.2), a near stock 09 evo mr by less than one tenth ( 13.155 - 13.187 ! great race )

and got whooped by a c5 with bolt ons + 100 shot... that was my first run and at 1/8 of mile i was one tenth behind him but this is the run where I let off a few times because I felt the tires acting up. ( 12.135 - 13.206 )

Have you tested it before you modified it???

i run 13s easy stock, and beat everthing stock "dogdge, bmw, (modified honda), s2000 etc." on the track that i raced
--

The modified cars (Big boys-oldschool Cam,Must etc 6,7,9,10sec cars) smoked the crap out of me through

chuckd05 · 06-08-2010, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ByP

Have you tested it before you modified it???

i run 13s easy stock, and beat everything stock "dogdge, bmw, (modified honda), s2000 etc." on the track that i raced
--

The modified cars (Big boys-oldschool Cam,Must etc 6,7,9,10sec cars) smoked the crap out of me through

What exactly do you mean ?

What are 13's? 13.00's or in the 13s. A few tenths is a big difference. Is yours automatic? All the autos seem to run 13.2-5 stock where as most manual tranny guys are around 13.5-7 from what I have seen.

A properly driven camaro ss is a 12.8 car so our Cars don't beat "everything" stock.

What was your time that you got?

And I ran a 13.6 (2.2 60 foot) with street tires. 12.9 (1.9 60 foot ) with same mods and M/T ET Streets the next time, its all about the first 60 feet.. I think I can do a little better too. I did not do a burnout at all and didnt really figure out exactly how to launch perfectly , and than the sway from the slicks was impeading on my driving, its not a nice feeling riding on the et streets and something to get used to. I may sell these off to go with et street radials.

I have since gotten an OEM VLSD I think with my mods ( g3's, test pipes, stillen exhaust, stillen pulley, and uprev tune ), I can get a 12.8 MAYBE 12.7 with a 1.8 60 and some ideal conditions.

Mercennarius · 06-08-2010, 01:47 PM

12.9 stock with just slicks?

05-07-2010, 10:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,660 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 20	The Z goes up in smoke tonight!!!!! The weather here was terrible it rained all day . There was a 2 hour window at the track and i desided to go for it. They tried to dry out the track and they let us race on it. It was 42 degree's and the wind was againts you at least 25 miles an hour into the nose of the car. There was only 7 cars there and one of then was a white GTR. My dream come true. to finally line up with a GTR and see how fast they are. This is my first time at a big name track and its the first time racing at night. Everything went wrong. Too much gas in the car.2/3 of a trank My ecu would not let me heat up the tire's. it kept stalling out the engine. The best i could do was floor it out of water box and spin then close to the start line. The weather conditions got worse every run as there was no prep on the track at all. My first pass was an earth shattering 16.613 @98.11 with a 2.6 60 ft time. I did the 1/8 in 11.38. It spun the tires through 1st, 2nd and half way through third. I hit the rev limiter at 8100 in 1st and 2nd. It also fish taled on me at the gear changes. ( not a good feeling) There was no traction any where on the track. I thanked God that i survied that run with me and the car in one piece. I foolishly decided that i should make another run, ( the storm was coming and the wind got worse. I took the tire down to 20 psig had my best run of the night, 13.099 @ 110.02 with a 2.121 go ft time. it did the 1/8th in 8.502 @ 87.16. I can not belive how the 305 35 18 drag radials just spun in 1st gear. I tried every thing for rolloing the car at 750 rpm and them feathering it but my times got worse and worse, And now for the main event The 370 vs the GTR. we got into the staging lanes and they shut down the track as it was too dangerous to race because the rain had started to sprinkle down. his best pass was a 12.3. he never showed me the time slip but i do not think that he went that fast. The car would not hook and i learned a good lesson tonight that a non preped track in 42 degree outside air temp is a bad thing to race on. I feel bad as i have let the 370z guys down tonight. I could not imangne have a GTM Sc on the car tonight as im sure i would have hit the side retaining walls with the loss of traction. The only good thing about tonight is that the motor sounded wicked in side the car the intake temp's were 46 degress acording to the cobb. Im so disappionted at my times. But warmer weather is coming and i will try again. It was not the night to drag race, i learned the hard way. For all you guys racing in cold conditions be carefull as its not worth it for you could lose control of your car and have a bad acciddent. I had one scarey moment when it spun the tire's at 8000 rpm in 2nd gear, and it spun when i shiffed into 3rd. i will never race in these conditions again. Z Eliminator __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015. Last edited by Z eliminator; 05-07-2010 at 10:27 PM.

05-07-2010, 10:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	Ahhh, its no big deal... 46 degrees your engine would love but def not the tires... That stinks though. Def happens. 16.6 lol I am going with the 16 inch radial with the taller sidewall yet skinnier tire to attempt to get traction. Z Elim, I looked at our ABS fuse under the hood and it is part of a series of 3 fuses in one plastic holster. And with one being the vvel I was not about to mess with it, Is that the same way the ABS fuse is in the 350 ???? I'm going to buy another fuse before I mess with it, and possible try to disable the one ABS fuse by cutting the current fuse, Than if that allows me to do burnouts I than will some how solder a wire with its own inline fuse with a switch to turn ABS off for burnouts at the strip. __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

05-09-2010, 04:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	hahaha small world... vinny had said you had a 370 too... I think u missed the 12.9 though. I was trying to launch from higher and higher towards the end of the night and the outcome was 13.0 - 13.2 2700 seemed to be the sweet spot that night... I should of kept with that.. Were you driving the TT 350 ? You or who ever was driving looked to have a little trouble getting traction even with those MTs ... What kind of power is your beast pushing ? I was expecting to see you go atleast low 12s. Seemed like the WRX wanted to run but after a fun night racing I was trying to get locked up in NJ , lmao. He ran his car too right ? __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-) Last edited by chuckd05; 05-09-2010 at 04:18 PM.

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05-08-2010, 12:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
03threefiftyz Track Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: MD Posts: 536 Drives: 03 350z 6mt Rep Power: 17	Zeliminator....with any drag oriented tire....sidewall height is more important than width. There are an absolute ton of cars that go 9's or better now on 275/60/15's. Going to have to drop the pressure down to 15-16 and really heat 'em up with temps in the 40-50 degree range with that short of a sidewall. I am sure you will get it dialed in..... Red370....my only issue is your attitude in posting...I have no qualm with posting of your vid, etc.....I think this HR vs VHR thing is pretty silly. All that being said.....you only ran like a 13.3X in that vid correct? What would people have thought I had I beat you by the same amount and posted it up? Just sayin'......the results are arbitrary and highly dependent on driver skill/experience.

05-10-2010, 02:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Solus Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 453 Drives: 2009 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 17	6mt JWT pop chargers Berk Test Pipes really heavy monoblock 20s w/ 315/35r20 nitto invos on the back lol

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Mercennarius Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 160 Drives: Nissan Rep Power: 17	12.9 stock with just slicks?