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Cmike2780 07-05-2010 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 606972)
I'm not sure where some of you folks are getting your info from but it's quite apparent many here are misinformed. For one, the 10’ Camaro SS is more than just a drag car / straight line car, same story with the Mustang. Times have changed and these “Muscle cars” are now just as and in some cases more capable then what you call “Sports cars”.

The 10’ Camaro SS for example has a Laguna Seca lap time of: 1:45.7. By comparison the 370z best recorded time is 1:46.5. At Virginia International Raceway (VIR) the Camaro SS ran a 3:09.5, the 370z Nismo ran 3:12.0. At “The Ring” Nordschleife the Camaro SS ran an 8:20, the last 350z has a best recorded time of 8:26.

In regards to straight line acceleration it’s no contest, the Camaro SS is in another league. It’s a high 12 sec @110-112mph car where as the Z has recorded times in the mid 13’s @104-106 on average. It’s a silly comparison and of course things like modifications and driver skill come into play. But the bottom line is that all things being equal the Camaro SS is faster.

That doesn’t make the Z a bad car or anything it just means there are other cars out there which are quicker and or just as capable, etc. Regardless I would rather own a 370z because it looks better and is more enjoyable to drive. I could care less if Billy happens to have a faster car. Just as well I would rather own a 09+ Porsche Cayman S or BMW M3 over a Nissan GT-R.

I personally don’t make a liven winning automobile races so having the fastest car isn’t important to me. I look for cars that can deliver an excellent car and driver connection and are rewarding and fun to drive,etc. Take the Mazda Miata for instance, slow as balls yet very fun and rewarding to drive.

You just compared lap times with different weather conditions, temperature, etc... how is any of that not magazine racing. If they were on the track at the same time actually racing (IN REALITY) , then you can see who has the faster car/skill whatever. Your ficticious race holds very little water.

z man 07-05-2010 08:18 AM

:iagree: you mean you beat a car that was predicted to blow your doors off, wow you are a champion and hero for just challenging the SS, more less winning...you have done the impossible.

Because predictions are not always right, it still comes down to the driver and the car :happydance: as I have seen many cars win that weren't susposed to be beat!


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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 607039)
You just compared lap times with different weather conditions, temperature, etc... how is any of that not magazine racing. If they were on the track at the same time actually racing (IN REALITY) , then you can see who has the faster car/skill whatever. Your ficticious race holds very little water.


m4a1mustang 07-05-2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by romoore14 (Post 607287)
WTF is this B.S.? Reported? Violation?

Hey dude... forum rules say all street racing discussion is prohibited. :hello:

romoore14 07-05-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 607292)
Hey dude... forum rules say all street racing discussion is prohibited. :hello:

Thx man, guess I should have read the rules......my bad! :owned:

nogoodname 07-05-2010 02:13 PM

If you really want to race, go to a dragstrip. It's so much fun and safer. Who knew racing on the airport runway was so fun..... btw, it's an active airport....lol

ByP 05-31-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 438558)
:confused:
The Camaro is a 13.1 second 1/4 mile car, the GT-R is a mid 11 second car.
The 370z in a straight line will lose stock to stock to a a Camaro SS but it will still be close and a bad shift or bad launch from the Camaro and the Z might stand a chance.

370z is 13.535ish so what now?? tested

i forgot Stock!

ByP 05-31-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 438536)
A purely Sports car ("Z"), vs a Muscle car...Different categories, dude. V6 vs V8...I'd love to see the Camaro against the GT-R, now THAT would level things up a bit!!!

the new GT-R is like 2.9 from 0-60 Camaro no chance without add-ons

level up??? please!!

Red__Zed 05-31-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ByP (Post 1144096)
370z is 13.535ish so what now?? tested

i forgot Stock!

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Originally Posted by ByP (Post 1144101)
the new GT-R is like 2.9 from 0-60 Camaro no chance without add-ons

level up??? please!!

Did you seriously bump this thread to post that?

theDreamer 05-31-2011 05:39 PM

:wtf2:

b1adesofcha0s 05-31-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1144107)
Did you seriously bump this thread to post that?

I know right. :bowrofl:

jnaut 05-31-2011 07:21 PM

Hahahahaha

jnaut 05-31-2011 07:22 PM

Plus the z is faster than 13.5 stock

b1adesofcha0s 05-31-2011 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jnaut (Post 1144251)
Plus the z is faster than 13.5 stock

Definitely :tup:

red6spd 05-31-2011 07:30 PM

I know you guys dont like to talk about street racing, but there are a few vids on youtube of 370's VS new SS. Most are bone stock Z's and Nismo Z's and only lose by maybe a car, then there is one that kills a SS from a dig on.

Z eliminator 06-01-2011 08:11 AM

MIne ran stock 13.201 Bone stock
I like it much better now 12.42's
at the track when i race i look for a modified SS to run. Its now fun racing a stock one.
I usuallly run cars faster than mine.
It make 's you a better driver and reminds you that there is always somebody faster than you.
When I get all my toys from GTM, " it will be a GTR's worst night mare. " the target is 11.4's at worst 11.6's. GTm stage 2 SC. i will be happy with 500 rwhp,
530 rwhp with 4.08 gears and traction control launching at 3800 to 4000 rpm in my 7 AT will be a quick little car at the 1/4 mile.

m4a1mustang 06-01-2011 08:12 AM

I'm gonna bump this thread so hard it's gonna wish I didn't bump it so hard.

'10Anamoly 06-01-2011 08:17 AM

YouTube - ‪2010 Camaro SS vs. 2010 370Z‬‏

Close race, both are stock. Although the camaro has an annoying co-pilot, lol.

red6spd 06-01-2011 10:04 AM

YouTube - ‪Nismo 370z vs Camaro SS vs SR20 240‬‏

YouTube - ‪370z vs 2010 camaro ss‬‏



I dont know any of these people.

AK370Z 06-07-2011 01:25 AM

Please keep the thread on topic and have mature conversation. Thanks

b1adesofcha0s 06-07-2011 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 1155741)
Please keep the thread on topic and have mature conversation. Thanks

Thanks :tup:

jnaut 06-07-2011 12:51 PM

lol...mature...sure



hummm blades was up upset about what was said about u in here?? im sorry lol


370z > camaro ss ( with proper driver ofcourse)

b1adesofcha0s 06-07-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jnaut (Post 1156572)
lol...mature...sure



hummm blades was up upset about what was said about u in here?? im sorry lol


370z > camaro ss ( with proper driver ofcourse)

I wasn't upset about anything, I'm fine. I would say it's still a drivers race. Assuming equally skilled drivers, I think the Camaro SS might just barely beat the 370Z in a straight line. Not 100% sure what would happen on a road course (other than the Z would overheat :bowrofl:) but I think the Z might take it, again assuming equally skilled drivers.

jnaut 06-07-2011 02:06 PM

yea oil temps ...i would be in the pits forsure

tranceformer 06-07-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jnaut (Post 1156724)
yea oil temps ...i would be in the pits forsure

Fo sho!

Z eliminator 06-07-2011 09:22 PM

GTM trackion control with launch control has been shipped. should be here in 6 days.
can not wait to launch at 3800 to 4000 rpm with the 7 AT.
i think there is going to be lower times coming.
Just bring the SS on.

Z

emartinez 06-21-2011 12:11 PM

yea on track i think the camaro would have it but street wise, i've taken out a few SS camaros from rolls and stops. i dunno they just have a hard time gettin power down on the street

V8Killer 06-24-2011 04:25 AM

I have only had 2 experiences with racing the new SS. One was from a guy doing a 45 roll he didn't come around me till 120. The second the guy claims he had intake and exhaust if that is the case he really just did not know how to drive b/c it wasn't even close. I still think of my car being stock b/c right now I only have stillen ud pulley and drop in k&n air filters. Future mods when I get back from Afghan. in Sept. will be F.I. LTH, CBE, Uprev Tune. Still debating on intake and maybe NST overdrive alternator pulley. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Once all is done I will be mowing down my buddies 2000 slowmaro SS with full bolt on's and tune. Sorry for getting off topic.

m4a1mustang 06-24-2011 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 1187081)
I have only had 2 experiences with racing the new SS. One was from a guy doing a 45 roll he didn't come around me till 120. The second the guy claims he had intake and exhaust if that is the case he really just did not know how to drive b/c it wasn't even close. I still think of my car being stock b/c right now I only have stillen ud pulley and drop in k&n air filters. Future mods when I get back from Afghan. in Sept. will be F.I. LTH, CBE, Uprev Tune. Still debating on intake and maybe NST overdrive alternator pulley. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Once all is done I will be mowing down my buddies 2000 slowmaro SS with full bolt on's and tune. Sorry for getting off topic.

Don't piss your buddy off too much. He'll spend like $500 on a cam and spank you. Damn LS1s. :rofl2:

TX_370 06-24-2011 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by emartinez (Post 1181807)
yea on track i think the camaro would have it but street wise, i've taken out a few SS camaros from rolls and stops. i dunno they just have a hard time gettin power down on the street

Ditto.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1187235)
Don't piss your buddy off too much. He'll spend like $500 on a cam and spank you. Damn LS1s. :rofl2:

Aint that the truth... :roflpuke2:

GZ3 06-24-2011 09:50 AM

i walked away from an SS in the 370Z, but i had ART pipes, AFE drop ins and post mafs...i think the SS was stock but who knows

theDreamer 06-24-2011 10:33 AM

I walked away from a Camaro SS once, at the dealership and then threw up a little.

V8Killer 06-24-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1187235)
Don't piss your buddy off too much. He'll spend like $500 on a cam and spank you. Damn LS1s. :rofl2:

Ya LOL Lucky for me though he can't afford to dump much into his car for a long while, not to mention he can only get his car down to a 13.5-13.3 at best but big weight difference he is 400lbs. For what he has done to his car it's running like weak sauce. We let one of our other buddies drive it who is obviously not as heavy and has a lot more exp. at the wheel and got his car in at a 12.9
Not to mention I plan to get the GTM SC stage 2 next year before the summer kicks off:happydance:

m4a1mustang 06-24-2011 11:19 AM

400 lb driver... that'll mess with the power-to-weight ratio just a bit!

b1adesofcha0s 06-24-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1187587)
400 lb driver... that'll mess with the power-to-weight ratio just a bit!

Yeah he needs to invest in the driver weight reduction mod :icon17:

Alchemy 06-24-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thedreamer (Post 1187512)
i walked away from a camaro ss once, at the dealership and then threw up a little.

word!

280z/300zx 06-24-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by emartinez (Post 1181807)
yea on track i think the camaro would have it but street wise, i've taken out a few SS camaros from rolls and stops. i dunno they just have a hard time gettin power down on the street

I actually disagree. I own both a NISMO 370z and a 2010 Camaro SS 6-speed. I think the Camaro is so easy to launch while the Z is near impossible. With the Z I get wheel hop like crazy in both 1st and 2nd. The Camaro is just spin and go. Even the wheel spin isn't that bad, it's not like the car roasts the tires or anything. It's just a tad of wheel spin and it's off. Not to mention the Camaro has launch control, which when used gets you some pretty good launches. The Camaro is infact my girls car but I drive it every time we go out as I only drive my Z to work and back (I drive a lot for work so when we do anything else we use her car as she drives very little for work). I'll say this, when it comes to straight line racing I'll choose the Camaro every time.

As far as legit racing goes we have only so far auto-x. The Z kills the Camaro obvioulsy. Usually I run 3-4sec faster in the Z. Still for it's weight it handles decent. Far better than the old F-body version (used to have a 2001 Trans Am V8) but not as good as the C6 Vette she used to have. I only mention the Vette becuase the Z would still best the Vette in auto-x.

As for drag racing, we haven't made it out to the strip yet. Every time we plan on it something comes up. We did do one quick pull a few months back where she surprised me off a start. She punched it already rolling in first and a split second later I punched it but already rolling in 2nd. She immediately pulled a car length on me but that was it. We shut it down at 70mph. (on a closed track out where we auto-x:tup:)

Basically if I had to put odds on which car is faster I would give it to the Camaro. On paper it's the faster car with lower ET times and higher trap speeds. Driving the car it feels faster than the Z. Launching the car is far easier than the Z. Honestly I think anyone who pulled on a newer Camaro was facing either a crappy driver or someone who didn't want to push their car. I've known lots of people with performance cars that when faced with a racing situation won't actually push the car to it's limits for fear of breaking it. One day we'll actually make it to the strip and I'll post the results but I dread the wheel hop.

Alchemy 06-24-2011 01:16 PM

^ the Z's arse does hop around, i hate it. The worst is when you hit a bump during a high speed turn and it skips out on you. Scary. I got my Swift springs yesterday so I hope to take care of that problem, hopefully.

Pelican170 06-24-2011 01:36 PM

Car and driver said the Camaro does the 1/4 mile at 13.4. Isnt that what the Z is about? i would think it would be a good race, since I would figure the Camaro would wheel spin more also but either way...

m4a1mustang 06-24-2011 01:41 PM

Yeah but if you go to any Camaro forum all of the decent drivers are pretty solidly in the 12s. 13.4 is definitely one of the slower times for the car. It'd be like if a mag reported the 370Z did the 1/4 in 14 seconds.

Pelican170 06-24-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1187889)
Yeah but if you go to any Camaro forum all of the decent drivers are pretty solidly in the 12s. 13.4 is definitely one of the slower times for the car. It'd be like if a mag reported the 370Z did the 1/4 in 14 seconds.

Gotcha, just going off what ive read. Dont have any experience with them but to be honest, when i see them on the street, i dont get scared lol


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